Gallagher's Personal Past
Florida gubernatorial candidate Tom Gallagher acknowledged Monday that an extramarital affair played a role in his divorce 27 years ago and that he had used marijuana “a long, long time ago.”
The disclosure by Gallagher, Florida’s Chief Financial Officer, came just days after a Florida newspaper showed his campaign staff 24 pages of court documents from his 1979 divorce from his first wife, Ann Louise Gallagher.
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The disclosure by Gallagher, Florida’s Chief Financial Officer, came just days after a Florida newspaper showed his campaign staff 24 pages of court documents from his 1979 divorce from his first wife, Ann Louise Gallagher.
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127 Comments:
At 5:19 PM, June 19, 2006, hrearden said…
Sometimes you have to keep your pimp hand strong.
At 5:21 PM, June 19, 2006, RockStar MD said…
In the words of Luda and Tom Gallagher...
"Move b**** get out the way"
At 5:25 PM, June 19, 2006, you-be-the-judge said…
Let's be real. Tom didn't find Christ until a focus group last year.
Get out of the race and quit using your family as a prop.
Ps. Your trial lawyer Chairman Stemberger is great at the double-speak, isn't he.
HYPOCRITES!!!
At 5:29 PM, June 19, 2006, pdpoladv said…
I wonder if all the clocks at the Gallagher campaign say 4:20?
At 5:34 PM, June 19, 2006, David said…
This isn't really much of a story. A twenty-seven year old divorce? Smoked pot in the late 70's? The horror of it all!!
It's odd how the Tampa Bay newspapers break all the anti-Gallagher stories, isn't it?
I'm calling on Charlie Crist to release the records from his divorce after a three month marriage.
At 5:39 PM, June 19, 2006, RockStar MD said…
Better pot than poles
At 5:39 PM, June 19, 2006, spg said…
I too think that Tom G is a bad guy. Charlie is a much better person and I think he will make a great Gov. Tom is not even half the man his brother Doug is.
At 5:40 PM, June 19, 2006, I Heart Flyers said…
um, David -- I think what is a bit shocking is the "broke into house of ex-wife, stole dog, nearly hit mother-in-law....."
Can we all say "unstable behavior" at the same time?
At 5:40 PM, June 19, 2006, buzzthis said…
one word.
Toasted.
probably the same thing Gallagher and his 26 y/o girlfriend used to say whent they were smoking pot
At 5:41 PM, June 19, 2006, pinkflamingo said…
Flyers -
That's my favorite part!
At 5:43 PM, June 19, 2006, pdpoladv said…
David - if that makes you sleep better at night, go with that.
This is a big story, and the perfect headline for a Charlie Crsit mail piece. All in all a bad day for the Gallagher campaign.
Plus, since Stemberger said we should forgive and no one is perfect, Gallagher will need a new attack dog for the "Charlie is gay and we can't have that" attack that everyone knows is coming.
At 5:45 PM, June 19, 2006, politicol said…
I feel so enlightened now.
Why didn't any of this come out the three prior times he ran for Gov.?
Crist Bar Exam Question from 1979:
Q: Smoking marijuana is: a)illegal b) legal.
Crist Answer: I need more information before answering the above question. I will reveal the answer after the next legislative session, thorough research, and after speaking with those on the committee I expect to appoint to review the matter.
At 5:46 PM, June 19, 2006, I Love Peggy Arvanitas said…
He is a changed man, now he day trades at the office on state time and has his personal state employees manage his vast real estate holdings.
What a great guy.
At 5:47 PM, June 19, 2006, LDWilder said…
It's hard out there for a young elected official....
At 5:48 PM, June 19, 2006, I Love Peggy Arvanitas said…
Yes, it appears that Stemberger has as much crdibility now as Mr. Gallagher.
At 5:48 PM, June 19, 2006, Phillie Blunt said…
I noticed that Gallagher has been putting on weight this campaign.
Must be the munchies...
At 5:53 PM, June 19, 2006, flaconservative said…
After reading Stemberger's tripe, you now have to wonder if he is an even bigger hyprocite than Tom.
At 5:56 PM, June 19, 2006, I Love Peggy Arvanitas said…
Coming next, "100 drug suppliers for Tom"
Or will it be...
"100 mother-in-law and wife beaters for Tom"
Or maybe
"100 philandering hypocrits for Tom"
Or will he announce
"The 100 people who are asking for their checks and commitments back because they're supporting Charlie"
I guess nice and decent guys do finish first.
At 5:59 PM, June 19, 2006, Phillie Blunt said…
Remeber that song from Afroman called "Because I got high" we have new lyrics for TG:
I was gonna become Governor, until I got high
I was gonna raise more money than Crist, But then I got high
My campaign is going down in flames And I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
I was gonna be a real conservative, before I got high
I coulda' done it and I coulda won, but I got high
I guess I'll run in 2010 and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
At 6:02 PM, June 19, 2006, flaconservative said…
See "hypocrite" misspelled in earlier post ..
At 6:02 PM, June 19, 2006, flaconservative said…
See "hypocrite" misspelled in earlier post ..
At 6:04 PM, June 19, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Stick a fork in TG....HE'S DONE!!
so what happened to the dog :)) Did TG loose him in a druken stupor :)
"Gallagher admits he cheated on first wife
By Aaron Deslatte
CAPITOL BUREAU
..."In the transcripts, a lawyer for Gallagher's ex-wife alleges the candidate, while intoxicated, broke into their Dade County home, nearly hit his mother-in-law and stole the family dog."...
get this guy away from Polititics...FAST!!!!!
At 6:04 PM, June 19, 2006, David said…
Again -- I call on candidate Crist to release his divorce records and explain why he didn't fight for his 3-month marriage.
At 6:05 PM, June 19, 2006, imhotepfla said…
“...The big argument for ‘civil unions’ – but not marriage! – is that gays are denied ordinary civil rights here in the American Taliban. This is where gays usually bring up the argument about all the straight couples living in ‘sham’ marriages, but I see no point in dragging the Clintons into this.”- Columnist Ann Coulter
At 6:08 PM, June 19, 2006, I Love Peggy Arvanitas said…
Since this is the summer of full disclosure, will Tom Gallagher now fully disclose what happened on the Mercedes and if the std comment is really true. Are they a turn on? You can't stop now, cam you?
At 6:16 PM, June 19, 2006, RockStar MD said…
Oh Sweet David---
There's no crying in baseball
At 6:19 PM, June 19, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Phillie. This is great!! could'nt stop singing!!! and laughing!!!!! :)))))))))
Phillie Blunt said...
Remeber that song from Afroman called "Because I got high" we have new lyrics for TG:
I was gonna become Governor, until I got high
I was gonna raise more money than Crist, But then I got high
My campaign is going down in flames And I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
I was gonna be a real conservative, before I got high
I coulda' done it and I coulda won, but I got high
I guess I'll run in 2010 and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
At 6:30 PM, June 19, 2006, David said…
Who's crying? Lets just get all the facts out on the table for both candidates.
Did Charlie ever smoke pot? Will Charlie explain the circumstances behind his divorce after a three month marriage.
BTW, how do you break into your OWN home?
At 6:30 PM, June 19, 2006, TG in da house said…
Hide the car keys, the poodle, and the fearful mother-in-law!
I think you hear mad Tommy G knocking...
He's coming in. And he's swiping anything that's not nailed down or just within reach.
At 6:40 PM, June 19, 2006, freeagentvoter said…
On the bright side, when you're already trailing in the polls by 30 points is probably the best time for this kind of thing to come out. And it's not like any of you expected any different about that period in his life.
At 6:52 PM, June 19, 2006, junior leaguer said…
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At 7:01 PM, June 19, 2006, Flamingo said…
TG was not honest, he was forced to respond to a reporter.
Warning, warning, danger, danger!!!
The TG camp is seriously off message. They won't recover.
The last pol who came back from hit after hit like this was Bill Clinton. And everyone can admit -like him or hate him - he was the most gifted politician of his generation.
TG does not have the skills to recover from blow after blow.
Remember when 3 days before 2000 Prez Bush released info about his drunk driving arrest? Before that disclosure he was ahead in all polls. He barely won the election. TG is 30% behind. This will ony hurt him more in the primary.
When does the TG camp wave the white flag?
At 7:02 PM, June 19, 2006, Paul D. Harvill said…
27 years ago?
Totally an irrelevant issue....as long as he didn't deny the matters.
At 7:03 PM, June 19, 2006, Paul D. Harvill said…
27 years ago?
Totally irrelevant issue....unless he denied the matters.
At 7:29 PM, June 19, 2006, unbidden said…
It's time for Gallagher to get out of the race for the good of the party. He cannot win now. It's over -- with your shield or on it.
At 7:52 PM, June 19, 2006, Diogenes said…
junior leaguer-- If ever there was a blogger who lived up to his/her/its name....
It was bad enough for the lady to be outed by the SPT by her maiden name. She's not a public figure and there is zero news value to her identity, especially given the age of the incident. This was incredibly poor and insensitive judgement by the reporter and her editor and marks the ongoing slide toward mediocrity by the Capitol Bureau now that Morgan's not there to make them at least pretend like they're journalists.
Your tawdry outing went the rest of the way. I'm sure you'd have included a picture if you'd had one.Your blog reflects a mindless lack of sensitivity as to its potential impact on the lives of a family over something that happened almost three decades ago. It approaches a viciousness that's most unbecoming.
Shame on you!! No kibbles for YOUR sorry a** tonight.
At 8:07 PM, June 19, 2006, Toms_stolen_dog said…
David - I love watching campaign people try and turn an ugly story into something good, but this is hopeless. There is no way to make this about Charlie. Its about Tom and his past finally catching up to him. Everyone who has spent even a little time in Tallahasse knows TG's colorful past.
The stolen dog thing is a new revelation though. That is the funniest part of this whole thing. I can almost see him breaking into his former house thinking "I don't care if she got to keep this house, she is not keeping my f***ing dog" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
At 8:10 PM, June 19, 2006, zenator said…
Given the false sexual innuendos coming from the Gallagher camp regarding CC, it is understandable that some believe that TG put his own past in play.
I don't buy it. Whatever TG, or George Bush for that matter, did or smoked 25 years ago in private should stay quietly buried. It is way remote in time and has no bearing on the man that TG has become today.
It does, however, appear that TG is only digging his grave further with the press, who don't like him anyway.
Breaking the story first may be ok from a damage control perspective, but it also burned the reporter, who provided the documents and asked for comment before going with the story. This breaks the unwritten rule.
TG better hope that this reporter wasn't holding something big back as is so often the case. When a reporter wants to nail someone, they generally let the news drip out in several stories. If this story was only intended as part 1, then part 2 is going to be nasty.
At 8:14 PM, June 19, 2006, unbidden said…
Can someone please ask Gallagher whatever happened to the dog? Did he give it back?
At 8:56 PM, June 19, 2006, atlasshrugged said…
Adam,
Other outlets might do it, but what was gained by the St. Pete Times including the name of the third party in Ms. James article? Gallagher, along with Smith, Davis and Crist have chosen the microscope; why inflict pain on individuals for actions 28 years hence when it adds nothing more than salaciousness? I concur with diogenes and add that the post of the very pathetic juniorleaguer should be removed.
At 9:09 PM, June 19, 2006, LDWilder said…
The press doesn't have morals...well they have some, but not much.
There was nothing to gain by throwing names around.
At 9:36 PM, June 19, 2006, imhotepfla said…
Now that some Republicans have found the good in forgiving people sins of long ago it is time for those of you Repubs to send a note of forgiveness to former President Clinton for all those times you called him a draft dodging, dope smoking philanderer in chief.
You can send those notes to:
Office of William Jefferson Clinton
55 West 125 Street
New York, New York 10027
And, while we're talking about finding Jesus on this board, let's not forget what he said in Matthew about treating the lowest just like you would treat Him. Also, take note of this from the Sermon on the Mount:
Judge not, that ye be not judged. [7:1]
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [2]
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? [3]
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,
Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye;
and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? [4]
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. [5]
At 9:50 PM, June 19, 2006, nefarious said…
Pull out now for the good of the party. Keep your CFO position and your campaign $$ and help your fellow cabinet member become governor. You know that you have no chance of winning this now, and even if you do which is not likely, you will loose the mansion to the dems!!!! GET OUT OF THIS RACE AND UNITE THIS PARTY. YOU KNOW IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IF YOU WERE A REAL MAN YOU WOULD ANNOUNCE TOMORROW!!!!
At 10:01 PM, June 19, 2006, Dixiecrat said…
Hey -- can't we all just pass the pipe and get along?
So are we all going to get to talk about GB III and his stalking tendencies when he runs for office in, oh, 5-10 years? I'm sure he was completely sober when that happened.
Republicans -- you guys make Bubba look downright respectable!
At 10:06 PM, June 19, 2006, Dixiecrat said…
Sorry that was mean, but y'all get really boring when you bicker ... where I come from we call this 'kicking a dead dog' -- TG is a goner -- just let the poor fella lie.
At 10:12 PM, June 19, 2006, TG in da house said…
Unbidden:
Charlie, like all kids, loves the sheepdog, Samantha.
And, regardless what you say about it, we're going to keep it.
TG
At 10:15 PM, June 19, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
LOL ! LOL! LOL ! LOL !
There is one advantage of having to work evenings, when one finally checks the blog, you get to laugh your ass off at some of the funniest rants.
Congrats to you all for making a long day much better... Except for you , "david". You my friend need to loosen your shorts and chill. If you can't laugh at someting as funny as this "news" item, then you should retire from the Gallagher campaign, and take up censoring for N. Korea.
david, and every other Gallagher hanger onner, your man handled this about as poorly as it could be handled, which is the best example to-date of why the Romper Room Kids have no idea what they are doing.
WHY in the world, would Gallagher take this on????!!!!!
THE standard response, given the circumstances, is to become "righteously indignant", loudly and frequently blame your opponent for digging up dirt and dirty campaigning, 11th commandmenrt, etc., whether they are responsible or not, and keep saying it loudly and frequently.
"my opponent is trying to make an issue of a mistake made over 30 years ago, and he should be ashamed of himself".
Instead, the consultants tell Tom to self-disclose!!!!!!!
Now it is solidly Tom's issue, and his alone.
And that my dear blogger comedians, is why on father's day, yesterday, I switched from Gallagher to Crist.
Tom has no idea how to handle a crisis, and therefore has no business being Governor.
At 10:15 PM, June 19, 2006, blah said…
QUESTION TO THOSE SMARTER THAN ME-
Do you think this "painful" admission of guilt for past sins, is a clever ploy by the TG staff (Doster and co) to get newspapers to report Crist's sins? The arguments being, "hey you wrote a hit piece on our guy, here is one on Charlie". Basically, I am asking, do you think they leaked this to media?
One would assume that the inferred sins of CC might be something the TG people would want to be open,and it would be more damaging to CC.
just wondering
At 10:18 PM, June 19, 2006, unbidden said…
Is anyone wondering why, in one article about this Gallagher says that he had to sit Charlie and Laura down and confess his sins, but in another version Laura says that Gallagher told her all about this long ago. The stories don't track. Which one is true?
At 11:24 PM, June 19, 2006, politicol said…
Is this the dirt that McCollum threatened to use in 2000, that led to Bush telling Gallagher to get out of the Senate race?
At 11:26 PM, June 19, 2006, plagiusthewise said…
Face it. Gallagher found God and family when he felt it was politically necessary. I've always been appalled that he trotted his family around like a showpiece only to pawn them off when no one was looking.
His womanizing continued up to when he was married and, I suspect, even afterward.
I would implore Gallagher to not take the Religious Right for a ride like he has.
And I implore the Religious Right to view this for what it is. You'll be used to get past the primary and then promptly tossed to the side like you've always been.
At 11:34 PM, June 19, 2006, John Q. Student said…
Wow, the GOP using religion as a smoke screen for their troubled past? People are surpirsed by this? I know I'm not. Lets be honest, this ploy comes straight out of the playbook for the Right. Deny, Deny, Deny until they see the light. Sadly for them the light doesnt equate to votes. It's time for Florida's voters to see their own light, the real truth: Tom and the rest of his party need a wake up call and a reminder that religion isnt a brand, its not a lifestyle, it is simply put a meaning and way of life.
At 8:00 AM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
Bucs fan:
Agree with your analysis regarding SOP regarding breaking 11th commandment etc. However, when one believes that there may be more to come, then one can use the "forgive me for I have sinned, but the wife understands" variation pioneered by Bill "the master" Clinton when the Jennifer Flowers story broke.
TG naturally did neither, but his response makes me suspect that TG fears that there may be more out there.
By the way, it seems doubtful that the CC folks broke this story given CC's current big lead in the polls, and his own admitted pot smoking during his college days.
At 8:38 AM, June 20, 2006, unbidden said…
Aren't Gallagher's "confessions" becoming a little too Jimmy Swaggart-ish . . . ? Wait, the two men look identical. Maybe they are really the same person? Is Gallagher going to end up on late night TV asking for prayer money?
At 8:52 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
Zenator....
I have read some of your previous postings, so, do you really believe the Gallagher people are that smart? You are suggesting that they are two steps ahead of everyone including the opposition.
I submit the theory that the Gallagher campaign is in crises mode, approaching "bunker mentality". They knew a story was going to run in the Tampa Trib, so a decision was made to self disclose in order to tell the story "their way", instead of letting the Trib tell the story.
"How" they told their story, is equally bizarre with the whole "Tom is a changed man" spin.
Duh!, of course he's a changed man. It was 28 years ago, he's married now, and 28 years ago is a non-event.
I maintain that it was handled so poorly, without even a hint of turn about. The Gallagher campaign, after accusing Crist of digging the stuff up, should have then insisted the Trib or the press corps ask the following to each state-wide candidate, Deomcrat and Republican, then print the results:
1. Have you ever cheated on your spouse?;
2. Have you ever smoked marijuana?;
3. Have you ever tried cocaine?.
If they lie, someone will out them ala Gary Hart.
It proves my point, that the campaign staff and consultants have no idea how to get out of the mess their in, and Tom is so frozen in the headlights at this point, that he is afraid to fire them all and get some fresh brain power.
As to your last point, it may well be that more stuff comes out on Tom. We all know there is plenty more. The issue has and will continue to be, how the Romper Room Kids handle it, or in their case, mishandle it.
At 9:12 AM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
Bucs fan:
You may well be correct here that TG and his staff do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. Certainly, you have history on your side. They badly mishandled the day trading allegations promising to and then not filing their own ethics complaint etc They badly mishandled the BREC endorsement of CC by getting the revote they demanded and then losing it badly etc.
If the past is prologue, then I admit that your analysis is dead on. Maybe this is no more complex than "stupid is as stupid does"
At 9:28 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
zenator.....
You're right, the past is a good indicator.
Or,in the words of Gallagher, stemberger, et al... Amen.
At 9:52 AM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Bucs Fan -- thanks for the concern for my mental well being. I'm doing just fine, thank you.
Twenty-eight years ago is certainly a long time to dig-up past mistakes. However, if the Tampa Tribune is going to interview Tom's ex-wife, I hope they pursue Charlie's ex with the same passion. I'd like to know why their marriage only lasted 3 months. Who's to blame? Fair is fair.
With that being said, the Tribune was very careful in their article this morning to say these documents were given to them, they didn't pursue them. Hmmm, now lets see -- WHO benefits from those documents being out there?
I agree it's one more hit against the Gallagher campaign. But I suspect, just like the day trading issue, Gallagher never told his campaign team about this.
At 10:12 AM, June 20, 2006, gopn1 said…
mega dittos David
WHO benefits?
Whoever delved into a 27 year old divorce ruling is a freak.
The headlines could have said: both the Attorney General and CFO smoked pot 25 years ago.
And if we asked every member of the legislature, I wonder how many of them there would be?
The unbiased media should ask the other candidates, Rod Smith & Jim Davis too.
At 10:28 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
david....
I AM concerned about your mental condition. How in the world you can read my postings, and subsequent postings from zenator and others, that prompt a response from you that has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about???
Catch-up or step off.!!!
We are talking about HOW the Gallagher campaign (you) mis-handled the story, which appears to the entire political world gallery as habitual behavior.
The questions you are trying to raise should have been done three days ago with the Trib.
Stop whining now because you mis handled it.
Read my post from this morning , since it is obvious you missed my suggestion that you should have demanded the Trib ask the three questions I gave you.
Admit you guys mis-handled it, ask our forgiveness, resign from the campaign, and suggest Tom get some professional campaign help.
At 10:28 AM, June 20, 2006, nefarious said…
david,
no matter how you twist this, it's not looking good for your guy.
This whole 'family thing' is such a phony flip, and finding Christ so conveniently, when the gov's office is being vacated is even more of a farce. These re-borns always have a very self serving purpose and true Christians see through this bull.
Who was it that said, "Excuse me for getting it right the first time."?
A tiger never really loses his stripes.
At 10:34 AM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Bucs fan apparently you're totally confused because I have NOTHING to do with this campaign other than being a donor and supporter. NOTHING. So, I've mishandled nothing. In addition, the last time I checked, I can write about anything I want to on here.
Hey, the weather's great today!! See.
At 10:37 AM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Nefarious,
I totally disagree with you about a "tiger losing his stripes." I am definitely a changed person compared to how I used to be in my younger days. Obviously, you've never had that conversion that so many others have had. So unless you can speak from experience, it's very insincere for you to question other people's motives.
I take Tom at his word that he's a changed man...certainly much different from the man he was nearly 3 decades ago. Until he does something to change that opinion, I believe him.
At 10:39 AM, June 20, 2006, Sam said…
And Your ALL Perfect righ?
At 10:46 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
david...
While you're exercising your "right" to "write" about anything you want, how about commenting on what we're all talking about, to wit, how poorly the Gallagher campaign (not you) handled the Trib's proposed story?
Why would you self disclose instead of blaming your opponent???
Why wouldn't you demand the Trib treat each state-wide candidate the same??
Why?? BECAUSE YOUR STAFF AND CONSULTANTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 10:53 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
david....
By the way, campaign staff calls them "donors", donors call themselves "contributors".
I just don't want you to slip up again on your next denial.
At 11:06 AM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Bucs fan,
So you would have had Tom deny deny deny and cast blame elsewhere? Yeah, that's the sign of a true leader. If he did what was alleged, it's better to get the truth out now instead of late August when it'll really matter.
I agree this is a hit to Tom. Thankfully only bloggers who have nothing better to do are mostly paying attention.
By the way, contributor/donor -- whatever. I still don't work for the campaign.
At 11:15 AM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
david....
Good job. Now that was appropriate. Thank you, sincerely.
No, I am not suggesting Tom "deny", I am suggesting be furious about "such a dirty attack", that has nothing to with running for Governor 28 years later.
Put the focus on his opponent.
By self dislosing, the story becomes about Tom.
The issue should not have been whether it was true or not, the story should have been about nasty political attacks....Which has been, and continues to be, my point. The staff and consultants are incapable of seeing the big picture and the most clever way to handle the curve balls that come at them.
At 11:32 AM, June 20, 2006, moderate said…
judging by their ages and the eras they grew up in, I'd say odds are pretty good they all have partaken of the 420.
So What?
I don't think that's the worst part about this story.
Actually, I don't think this story should be an issue.
People make mistakes and divorces are ugly and often regrettable.
If getting divorced makes someone ineligable for office, we sure would be reducing the cadidate pool.
Heck, Jim Davis would be the only guy in this race eligable to run.
I think we can all agree, that wouldn't be good.
PS - They also shouldn't have dragged that woman into this.
At 11:45 AM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
David and Bucs fan:
Houston, we have a consensus here.
Just one further thought. Aren't these all self-inflicted wounds? First, TG posts his tax returns on his campaign web site, which leads the press to review them and write about day trading etc. Next, TG makes a big deal about the Broward BREC indorsement of CC by demanding a revote, which TG then loses, which leads the press to write a series of stories. Next, TG puts his prior life in play, which leads the press to pen the latest stories.
No need for CC to get involved in the fray, when TG is so busy shooting himself. Meanwhile, it is my understanding that CC has quietly gone up with TV buys in Palm Beach County, which began running this week.
At 11:50 AM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Zenator,
You don't think Crist had anything to do with spreading the day trading stories including having "supporters" make seriously accusations that were proven untrue? Or you don't think "supporters" gave Tom's divorce records to a reporter so enterprising that he didn't find it on his own? Seriously, you're either naive or living in denial.
However, I believe the saying those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The only difference is when CC gets his return receipt, it'll be when it hurts the most.
At 12:06 PM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
david and zenator...
late for work, gotta run.
I'm afraid Charlie may be getting too far out in front to matter one way or the other. We'll see what the Lt G. announcements do to the race dynamics.
If it gets any worse, Kitty Kat may have a better chance of beating Nelson than TG beating CC. They're almost at the same point spread.
See 'ya tonite, same channel.
At 12:24 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
Hey, is it 4:20 yet? I've got to be home in time to beat my wife... and kick my girlfriend. Or is it the other way around?
... Hey, you gonna eat those Cheetos?... is it 4:20 yet?
At 1:45 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Goto love how Gallagher had his girlfriend put up while his wife was at home :)
Gallagher apologizes for 'bad choices'
By Brian E. Crowley
Palm Beach Post Political Editor
Monday, June 19, 2006
..."In one of those 1979 documents, a legislative aide testifies that she "began to date" Gallagher, then a state representative, in June 1978. The woman said she was living in a condominium owned by Gallagher at the time. Gallagher's wife at the time, Anne Louise Gallagher, found out and filed for divorce."....
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Then he takes the girfiend on vacation and to the house when the wife is away..what a classy guy
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BY MARY ELLEN KLAS
Miami Herald
June 20th 2006
......"In a copy of a September 1979 deposition of McBee obtained by The Miami Herald, the former girlfriend testified that during 1978 and 1979, she traveled with Gallagher to Atlanta, Texas, California, Miami, Orlando, West Virginia, Washington, D.C., Delaware and Nassau in the Bahamas. She stayed at his Miami home for three days when his wife was in Michigan, and he gave her gifts."...
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Don't you just feel sorry for poor tom Gllagher who at 35 years old was so young that he could'nt have known better.......PLEASE!!!!
Enough with the "iwas young and foolish" the foolish part is right and apparently it is hsill there..lest see in his 50" Gllagher as proud reputation for sleeping around and lets see wasn't it only few months ago this guy was "Day Trading" in public offcie on public time and hiring State Empyees to do his private work ALL AS AN ELLECTED OFFICIAL. This guy is clearly mentally challeneged. get him away from anything called politics FAST!!!
What a disaster!!!!
At 2:11 PM, June 20, 2006, David said…
CV - we've all read the articles. We don't need you violating copyright laws by posting them here.
At 2:20 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
David
You sure seem stressed out :) Time to get a CLUE!! maybe this will bring you into reality.
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Gallagher admits he cheated on first wife
By Aaron Deslatte
CAPITOL BUREAU
Tallahasse Democrat
June 19, 2006
...."In the transcripts, a lawyer for Gallagher's ex-wife alleges the candidate, while intoxicated, broke into their Dade County home, nearly hit his mother-in-law and stole the family dog."...
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What a disaster!!!
At 2:24 PM, June 20, 2006, David said…
CV -- I got a clue long a go when I figured out that you're Charlie's lap dog.
At 2:55 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
David
Note how Gallagher former wife expose why Gallagher wanted to become elected, had nothing to do with being a servant of the people. What a disaster ..and you endores this!..not surprising.
By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
..."Louise said. The lure of power and attention drew Gallagher to politics, she said."..
......“It was when he got into politics where I thought he went off in a different direction,” she said."..
..."He wanted to be a public servant and go to a lot of functions and be treated like royalty. That’s what he wanted, and that’s what he got,” she said. “If he’s saying he’s turned over a new leaf, the question is, did he really?".....
Get a Clue David...immature name calling dosent make the facts any different:)..get a CLUE!! David
At 2:56 PM, June 20, 2006, schnauzerboy said…
So which of the day trading allegations weren't true?
So far we've had no proof. There were several phony internal investigations that we hushed up. That's all.
Please tell us more.
At 3:10 PM, June 20, 2006, RepublicanMushroom said…
I commend the reporters who did their job and found this information about Gallagher.
If someone wants to be elected to a position of power, they must be held accountable for all of their past actions.
Sure no one is perfect, but who's fault is this? TG has been campaigning like the "perfect" family man....and well...come to find out he is not.
By the way...this has nothing to do with the Crist campaign. He is already 30 points ahead. The is only icing on the cake!
At 3:15 PM, June 20, 2006, terminator said…
Cristites:
Better for Gallagher to "spill the beans" now then wait until later in the campaign.
While the news could be somewhat damaging, if you look at past history and some former Presidents and politicians, it didn't really seem to affect them too much (JFK, Ted Kennedy, Clinton, George W. Bush).
Even the beloved Jeb Bush was hounded about rumors concerning extra-marital affairs and drug use amongst his children (if not Jeb himself).
It might even win some votes. It does make Tom Gallagher "normal". What people are questioning about Charlie Crist is his "abnormal" lifestyle but more on that later.
I would venture to say probably 75% of the bloggers on this page have gone through a messy divorce, smoked marijuana, tried cocaine, cheated on their spouse, etc.
If we discounted every politician, doctor, lawyer, teacher, police officer, etc. who ever did any of these things, we wouldn't have anyone left in society to assume those jobs.
All that comes with "coming of age". The indiscretions of our immature youth. At least Gallagher admitted it and didn't use some lame excuse like "I never inhaled".
David raises some valid points. Will Charlie Crist release the contents of his three month marriage? And if not, why and what is he hiding from the voters?
As I've said before, Gallagher's life is an open book. Everyone who has worked in Tallahasee knows about Tom's indiscretions. It's not a big deal to us.
Everyone who has worked in Tallahassee knows that Charlie Crist is gay. That's why the Crist camp wants the issue to go away and acts indignantly when the issue is raised.
Personally, I'd rather have a guy who had an extra-marital affair and tried a little weed then a guy who's gay and has tried a little weed.
At 3:31 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Terminator
There you go again off the handle with nonsense. You forgot to mention the "cocaine" issue that Gallagher ex-wife brings up...guess you want a candidate with this qualification also!. Your standards speak for themself and to your credibilty. Get a Clue!!!!
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By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
Posted June 19, 2006
..."Another time, Louise said she found cocaine in a drawer in Gallagher’s Tallahassee condominium. She showed it to Gallagher’s father before flushing it down the toilet, she said."..
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What disaster Gallagher is get him away from Politics..fast!!!
At 3:50 PM, June 20, 2006, blah said…
terminator-
You said- "I would venture to say probably 75% of the bloggers on this page have gone through a messy divorce, smoked marijuana, tried cocaine, cheated on their spouse, etc."
Are you implying that 75% on this blog have done all those combined things like TG? Or singular things?
I find the comparison to Clinton and TG rather humourous to me- I mean...I have never done the aforemention crimes, but I have never been a president or run for Gov. I guess to you, that must be in order to run for public office.
How old was TG during this "coming of age" ritual you speak of? I don't think he was in his 20s-
How can you say that TG is an open book? This only came out b/c of a newspaper-? it appears more like damage control then "coming to Jesus" but what do I know-
You drop the repeated referance " we in tallahasse"- this makes me want to confirm my original thought- this was not a explosive hit piece, but a controlled release by the HOLY people of TG to get reporters to release garbage on Crist.
At 3:54 PM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
David:
You may or may not be right. I suspect you are not. It is the timing of the disclosures that makes me think otherwise
Note your own final comment/threat about delaying until "when it hurts the most." If CC were orchestrating these leaks, one would expect the information to be leaked just prior to the primary, not many months before when the effect would be minimized.
This makes me suspect that the day trading stuff was probably the independent work of the press. You have a point with the ethics complaints. BREC was a disaster of TG's own making. The latest stuff cuts both ways. CC, also a divorced man who admittedly smoked pot, has no more interest than TG in drawing attention to these issues. Note CC's own immediate "I too used to smoke pot" press release. Do you really believe that the front runner thought it was a swell idea to dredge up that part of his past in order to tar TG with the same brush?
At 4:01 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
Darn, I was just getting into it when C&P CV showed up.
Hey CV, you ready to play with the big boys yet? How ‘bout that direct and succinct question son?
Any substantive matter to add… or just your standard blah,blah, cut-n-paste, repetitive banter, weak attempts at insult, blah, blah, “I Love Charlie”, blah, blah, “I’d have his baby”, banter, banter, blah, blah.
…nut
At 4:06 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Jpub
haviong a bad day bacuse you Gallagher has been outed by the meadi. Guess he tried to keep his hidden to continue to deciev voters but could'nt. You an Thurman must be mad as we good Dems like yourself was pulling for TG!
At 4:08 PM, June 20, 2006, terminator said…
CV:
That was merely an "unsubstantiated" allegation being made by an angry wife during a nasty divorce proceeding.
What's the old saying "hell hath no fury like a scorned woman"?
Blah:
No, just saying most all of us have done at least one of those things or possibly a combination of them or possibly all of them.
My point was, it didn't hurt some pretty famous fellows who have been revered by large percentages of the American public at one point or another.
Tom should rightfully take his hits from this, as Charlie will for his sexual identity issue dilemna.
Zenator:
Gallagher and his staff had nothing to do with the BREC thing. The second endorsement meeting went forward because there were several formal complaints that had been filed by BREC members still pending at that time.
The meeting was called at the behest of the BREC leadership in an attempt to "whitewash" the endorsement and make it appear to be "legitimate".
At 4:22 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
Damn CV, what did you do, break a nail on the keyboard again?
Well put terminator.
Oh… and CV… stop dodging the challenge, slick.. Give me some substance or get back to summer camp before someone takes you nap blanky.
…nut
At 4:23 PM, June 20, 2006, LDWilder said…
Crap I missed 4:20...
At 4:23 PM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
Termie:
If you look carefully, I suspect that you will discover that the complaints were made by TG supporters at the direction of Barbara Collier, TG's Broward Chair, who was later demoted following the re-vote debacle.
At 4:27 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Jpublic
Now I'm sure "Deliverance" must be your favorite movie :)
What a disaster you man Gallagher is. Are you having a Dem emergency mtg tonight.
By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
Posted June 19, 2006
..."Another time, Louise said she found cocaine in a drawer in Gallagher’s Tallahassee condominium. She showed it to Gallagher’s father before flushing it down the toilet, she said."..
At 4:30 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
Oh, come on CV… can’t you at least fake some original thoughts, base knowledge and relative substance?
It’s easy to fake it, just ask your girlfriend… or your uncle Charlie.
…nut
At 4:33 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Jpub
hey earlier you asked for some "substance" sounds like you and your man TG have something in common:)
By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
Posted June 19, 2006
..."Another time, Louise said she found cocaine in a drawer in Gallagher’s Tallahassee condominium. She showed it to Gallagher’s father before flushing it down the toilet, she said."..
At 4:48 PM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Zenator,
Why leak the stuff now? Well, it's one week to go before the fundraising quarter ends. Candidates usually try and finish strong. Charlie has spent money on TV ads and he and Tom are about even in on-hand money right now. SO, you leak the information, stopping Tom from finishing strong in the quarter and Charlie can say I have more money on hand.
However -- I do agree with you about how the timing could have been better. Problem is Charlie's running a sprint in a race that is a marathon. Up on TV in June...taking general election positions...etc, etc.
At 4:50 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
No, no, no CV… I mean something you didn’t steal. Damn, you’re lame son.
TG was done a long time ago, and your boy CC goes in November. But don’t fear job security for you or your fellow CC staffers, McDonalds is opening up a new store. They need some copywriters with you kind of originality.
“Love them fries!”
…nut
At 4:57 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Jpub
Speaking of "girfriends" and "substances"
Got love how your man TG's girlfriend attorney prevents her from anwering on the "cocaine" question in court!!.
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"By JONI JAMES
Published June 19, 2006
St. Petersburg Times
......"Asked whether she had ever used drugs with Gallagher, McBee didn’t answer after her attorney objected to the question."..
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Now I know this may be hard for you to read on your man TG so don't go "sqeeeling like a pig" (aka you favorite movie Deliverance) :)
At 5:10 PM, June 20, 2006, jpublic said…
Based on your rants CV, you could use to back off a eight-ball ot two yourself.
I also guessing, based on your rants, that you don’t really have a thought process… so who’s that over your left shoulder… dictating your spew.
No, no, no… your other left shoulder lamo…
I’m bored with you today son. Don’t forget to brush your tooth (intended), and say your prayers tonight. With that stack of mags under your matress, it’s kind of like an adjustable bed huh!
Say hi to your mom…
…nut
At 5:18 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Hey Jpub
Don't you just love how TG "lawyer" tries to save his neck....Wonder if TG is now going to say how much he loves lawyers.
...."In the McBee deposition, records show attorneys for Gallagher’s first wife asked if McBee had ever used drugs with Gallagher. McBee never answered after her attorney, Tallahassee’s Wilbur Brewton, objected"...
.."Brewton, who is a longtime Gallagher supporter and associate, declined to comment"...
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Jpub you must be "sqeeling like a pig" by now :)))
At 5:33 PM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
David:
Being down 20-30 points in the polls is more than enough drag on TG's fund raising.
TG is still way down on dollars, unless he had a record-breaking quarter and CC's fund raising stalled badly, which weems very unlikely given the polls. CC was up by about $2.7 million at the end of the last quarter. He then went up on TV in 3 markets (Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville). I don't know his points buy or the individual market cost, but suspect that the total cost was in the $100k per week range. C has now added Palm Beach. All in that equates to about $600k, plus or minus $100k, for all of June. This means that CC still has about $2 million more than TG before this quarter's results are tallied.
Bucs fan:
Read today's Tampa Tribune. As suggested, the reporter was holding a lot back and it was a bad idea for TG to burn the reporter and break the news himself. Now, we hear from the(obviously still bitter) ex-wife making impossible to disprove claims of blind ambition and cocaine. Ordinarily, I doubt that an editor would allow such irresponsible gossip, with no independent corroboration, to go to print, unless, of course, the paper was really teed off by TG's actions of yesterday.
At 5:33 PM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
David:
Being down 20-30 points in the polls is more than enough drag on TG's fund raising.
TG is still way down on dollars, unless he had a record-breaking quarter and CC's fund raising stalled badly, which weems very unlikely given the polls. CC was up by about $2.7 million at the end of the last quarter. He then went up on TV in 3 markets (Tampa, Orlando and Jacksonville). I don't know his points buy or the individual market cost, but suspect that the total cost was in the $100k per week range. C has now added Palm Beach. All in that equates to about $600k, plus or minus $100k, for all of June. This means that CC still has about $2 million more than TG before this quarter's results are tallied.
Bucs fan:
Read today's Tampa Tribune. As suggested, the reporter was holding a lot back and it was a bad idea for TG to burn the reporter and break the news himself. Now, we hear from the(obviously still bitter) ex-wife making impossible to disprove claims of blind ambition and cocaine. Ordinarily, I doubt that an editor would allow such irresponsible gossip, with no independent corroboration, to go to print, unless, of course, the paper was really teed off by TG's actions of yesterday.
At 5:43 PM, June 20, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Terminator
Did you notice Gallagher father DID NOT DENY the statement made by Gallaghers ex-wife. Get a clue!!!
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By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
Posted June 19, 2006
..."Another time, Louise said she found cocaine in a drawer in Gallagher’s Tallahassee condominium. She showed it to Gallagher’s father before flushing it down the toilet, she said."..
..."She and her father-in-law were close, she said, and when he told her he had to pick up the other woman at the airport, Louise said she was going with him.
"I invited her for coffee and she said OK. I told her she could have him and she said OK. I felt I had been a real patsy. Enough was enough."
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At 6:59 PM, June 20, 2006, David said…
Zenator,
Crist is running in more markets than that. Ft. Myers-Naples, Jacksonville, WPB, Tampa-St. Pete., and Orlando. Plus he's been up for three weeks. That's more than $600,000 in those TV markets. I wouldn't be surprised if he's spent double that already.
At 7:07 PM, June 20, 2006, nole1 said…
David B.,
Maybe you should see about expanding your role and getting a little more involved in the politics and media with your camp. Something certainly needs to be done. The toilet is swirling and TG is hanging from the rim by his finger tips.
At 7:28 PM, June 20, 2006, zenator said…
David:
Sorry, I was unaware of FT Myers/Naples. I know that Palm Beach only started this week.
That said, my basic point remains valid even if cc spends the $400k per week in June that you suggest is the better estimate. Assuming the two candidates otherwise spend roughly the same, CC is still up, at least, a million plus and by my estimate a lot more.
By the way, the Tampa Tribune must be REALLY PISSED at your guy. What a hatchet job. Apparently, it has now posted the sound track of the reporter's interview with TG. It is almost like the newspaper is giving a live feed for use by the anti-Gallagher, 527 orgs that rumor suggests are lutrking out there.
I previously suggested that the press might go into pay back mode after TG burned the reporter, but the punishment here seems extreme.
At 7:31 PM, June 20, 2006, miamifl1972 said…
Whatever happened to Samantha the sheepdog? Was the screen cut, torn, or ripped? The story contained a lot of detail, but not these essential informational elements.
Give the man a break. What was GW Bush doing 25 years ago?
At 7:50 PM, June 20, 2006, LDWilder said…
This has to be a record-breaking buzz post.....
At 7:52 PM, June 20, 2006, miamifl1972 said…
I was joking about the status of the sheepdog, but here's what was placed on the Tampa Trib blog---no kiddin'!! The things that animal huggers deem important!!
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Posted by XXXXXXXXXez, Atlanta, GA on 06/20 at 11:09 AM
I used to live down the street from Gallagher from 1982-84 in Coconut Grove. None of the neighbors had a very high opinion of him. Not because of his divorce, but because of the way he neglected his sheepdog. Gallagher was never home. The dog was left out in the yard for hours and hours uncared for. It’s coat was filthy, matted and full of burrs. The poor thing was thirsty and hungry. It would dig out of the yard under the fence and roam the neighborhood looking for handouts. We often fed the dog. Once, during his 1982 campaign, I took one of his newspaper ads which read “Vote for Gallagher, the man who gets things done.” I tore it out of the paper, folded it up and stuck it under his dog’s collar with the message “I wonder if your dog thinks you are the ‘man who gets things done.’
Don’t think much of the man. Didn’t then, don’ now.
At 8:40 PM, June 20, 2006, moderate said…
lines
miamifl1972
he was doing lines
At 8:42 PM, June 20, 2006, p arvy said…
I supose now, Crist's fling with that sexy Rebecca and the subsequent PROBLEM that begat that union will now finally come out too. My God, you are all flesh eating vultures. Might as well let it all hang out.
As a woman, I was touched that he wanted to get a family heirloom and his DOG. !! He's got my vote! The affair thing worked for Hilary and Bill Clinton. It reminds everyone that Crist is NOT married. And does not have children bound by marriage..
:-)
At 10:20 PM, June 20, 2006, beachcomber17 said…
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At 10:20 PM, June 20, 2006, nefarious said…
David,
When you speak of your younger days you must provide some perspective here. How old are you? You must not be very old, because when you refer to your younger days, I doubt that you are referring to your mid thirties, and I doubt that you were elected and entrusted with the public vote. TG was in Tallahassee to do the the work of the people and he was advancing his own personal agenda: drugs and sex!
I feel for the elected officials that endorsed him. I expect that there will be some house and senate members recinding their support, as many voters may question their judgement in supporting this derelict.
It is so very obvious that TG was seduced by this lifestyle. His wife of many years said that his ego and the appeal of the this lifetyle, surrounded by Tallahassee groupies and stroked by the general population of lobbyists and staff was his desire, and he was treated like royalty. Funny that he had been coveting the status of his neighbor, a state representative.
Add a 'thou shalt not' and, wait, isn't that the ninth commandment?
Yet another reason why he can say that he turned his life around!!!
Hallelujah!
At 10:40 PM, June 20, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
zenator....
Just listened to the audio. That is probably one of the most depressing things I have heard in long time.
Tom sounds defeated, and like someone who has confessed to the worst sins imaginable.
I now no longer sure whether Tom himself has the mental fortitude, or the fire in his belly to win this race. There was absolutely no "hunge" in his demeanor, only sad resignation.
I have known Tom personally for too many years. This was not Tom.
I feel sorry for him.
Last night I was laughing my ass off at the blogs...tonite, I'm going to bed.
Thanks for the heads-up.
At 10:54 PM, June 20, 2006, publius said…
Many people on here say who cares, it was 27 years ago. If it was only 27 years ago then I would agree. But what will begin to come out now is the real TG. After his divorce, TG went back to the Legislature and was proud to be called a "party boy" and he lived up to it. He slept with everything he could in Tallahassee throughout the 80's and most of the 90's. He didn’t stop screwing everything he could, while getting plastered in the process with lobbyist picking up the tab, until 98. That was only 8 years ago. Is that relevant? Does it show a pattern to the vast majority of his adult life? Did he ask for it when he tried to reinvent himself as Christian right winger? Yes. Yes. Yes. If you know the story of St Augustine then you know that God can change mans hearts. St Augustine loved to chase women for almost half his life before he found God. In the Confessions of St. Augustine there is a passage where he prayed "oh Lord grant me chastity, just not quite yet." He did eventually turn from his old life and follow God. He became a pillar of the early Church. But he did not seek political power so the truthfulness of his conversion was not questioned. His works spoke for themself. TG might too have had an honest conversion but it seems as if he is using it to attain political power. Perhaps TG should follow the example of Augustine: forsake political power and dedicate your life to winning converts to Christ.
At 11:51 PM, June 20, 2006, nefarious said…
publius
AMEN!!
do I hear another AMEN?
TG..are you there?? Where's that AMEN now?
Where's that AMEN when there's no benefit for you??
How Pathetic!
So sorry for you David and all you TG loyalists. You poured you heart and soul into this...what's next??
At 2:18 AM, June 21, 2006, Jr GOP said…
I heard the intervied with the Tampa Trib reporter and man does it is not looking good for TG. Every reporter in the state is gunna be lookin for dirt on him. If this was just a college thing he could survive, but was he burning reefer and allegedly doing coke while in elected office?
Now, for the TG people who keep pulling the "Charlie is Gay" card, I have to say, I've seen his girlfriend and she is sexy as hell.
My guess, fundraiseing is going to drop bigtime for TG, and stay strong for CC, after all, do you really want to give money to someone who is 25 pts behind in the polls. Sorry Tom, looks like you shouldn't have banged everything with a heartbeat in Tally, the only person who could survive this is "bubba", and ur not as slick as him-
At 9:09 AM, June 21, 2006, terminator said…
Jr. Gop:
You really are a "junior". Charlie's girlfriend? Give me a break.
You mean Charlie's campaign prop. Is this the one he's supposedly in "love" with?
If you believe that one, I've got some good swampland I can sell you.
Nefarious and Publious:
Just a campaign speed bump my friends. Sure Tom has a few chinks in his armor but don't think alot of folks will care about something that happened twenty-seven years ago. We've got a long way to go in the next two months.
There will be lots more dirt on all candidates as we approach September 5th.
Bucs Fan:
Time to chin up. No campaign is perfect. Tom hasn't even started his Tv advertising yet and he will have an opportunity to gain ground during the debates.
Enough with the defeatist attitude. The fun's just getting started. This is what we live for (the game).
Get it together and start doing something positive.
At 10:29 AM, June 21, 2006, Bucs Fan said…
Terminator....
I think you have misunderstood my latest post of last evening.
I have for many months, been observing the Gallagher folks mis-handle every aspect of the campaign, and rather than demonstrating a sophiscation that they have a command of their situation, and adjust their message and tactics accordingly, the ROMPER ROOM KIDS, keep doing the same thing, proudly proclaiming, "we're winning, just you wait and see"!
The campaign's latest "father's day" message, with the same old tired rhetoric was the straw that broke the back for me.
If you care, which I hope you have better things to do, you could see my post on "daddy Tom" 6/18/06 (1:50 pm)where I have finally made the decision to stop supporting Tom, and why, and I am now a Crist supporter.
My decision was long time developing and was made prior to Monday's revelations about Tom's past.
It may be easier for you to merely scroll back up, to, oh say 50 or 60 posts ago to 10:15 pm 6/19 and 8:52 am 6/20 to understand why I think if Tom can't handle a crisis within his own campaign, how in the world is he going to recognize one of his Agency Secretaries, or staff when they are blowing it.
Listening to him on the taped interview in fact confirmed for me my decision to support Crist. My sadness was listening to someone , who in my opinion has become a shell of his former self.
At 10:35 AM, June 21, 2006, 1catalyst said…
Publius, et al of like mind:
You mention St Augustine's life of debauchery before his conversion then suggest Gallagher should, "forsake political power and dedicate yourself to winning converts to Christ."
Your comment reveals your disdain for Christians and lack of common sense! The obvious corollary to your argument and the position you seem to be espousing, is that only the carnal unregenerate men/women should be elected to govern/rule. That would be sort of like, "the blind leading the blind" wouldn't it?
One of the highest Christian callings in life is political "power" and it is a ministry to protect and preserve the society. Government was established by God and He assures when the "righteous" rule the people prosper and are safe.
Of course, that requires full protection for freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Our nation's religous freedom was a Christian idea and the first time true freedom of religion had ever been made part of a nation's law. Preserving our Freedom of Religion is a major battle today!
Quit telling Christians to "Go to the back of the bus"!
At 11:39 AM, June 21, 2006, publius said…
1catalyst :
You missed the point of my post. I am a Christian and have been one for 23 years. If Dan Webster was running for Governor then he would have my utmost respect and support. Webster has proven himself though the works of his life to be a Christian leader whom I am proud to show as an example to my children of a Christian leader with honor, dignity and respect. Because TG has made his sudden conversion the main topic of his campaign, it seems as if he decided in 98 that in order to get elected Governor by the GOP he had to remake himself into a right wing, family man, born again Christian. I hope he did have a true conversion experience, but many people think it all appears staged. When politician like TG make such huge sudden shifts in their religious beliefs and then make huge moves across the political spectrum as well, it hurts Christians everywhere and the message of Christ that is preached. If TG had found Christ in 80 or 85 and had changed his ways, stopped sleeping with everything he could and then 20 years of works were there to show the change, then we would not be having this conversation today. If you were to tell me Webster smoked pot and had an affair in 79 (which he didn’t) then I would agree it is not relevant. Webster has a reputation and a life’s work to back it up. But in the case of TG we are not talking about 79, we are talking about 98. The year of TG’s great awakening. Give me true Christian leaders such as Webster and I will support them. TG will not be elected Governor yet again. He is 64. Forsake political power and prove the detractors wrong. Leave the mantle of Christian leadership to those with a life’s work to back it up. It is time to tend the vineyards TG.
At 1:01 PM, June 21, 2006, 1catalyst said…
Publius,
Who are you supporting for Governor?
I did not miss your point. I think you are just trying to backpeddle on what you said and meant.
Webster is not running for Governor. The other alternative in the Republican camp is Crist.
As a Christian you have to decide who to vote for and whether or not you believe Gallagher has "turned over a new leaf," but don't undervalue the regeneration power of God! Your claim to be a Christian while using that logic in your previous posts is not convincing.
I am not criticizing your skepticism about Gallagher (we all have to decide that issue)but I am criticizing your assault on Christians as I read it. example: You said, "dedicate your life to winning converts" and "tend the vineyards." I read that as, "Christians to the back of the bus."
At 1:39 PM, June 21, 2006, Jr GOP said…
Terminator- I know for a fact that the girlfriend Charlie has is no prop, she is the head of a Bank in St. Pete, not just some ditsy blond. Your boy Gallagher should have found god in the 80's instead of 98'. My question to you is this: When your down by 25 points in the polls,down by over a couple million in fundraising,getting hammered by every reporter in the state for banging Leg.aids on the hood of his Benz, and drug abuse while in his late 20's and 30's, how can he survive? Throw in the Towl Tommy, cause your done-
At 2:18 PM, June 21, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Question we all want to know is why has'nt Gllagher's dad come out and deny the "cocaine" story if it isn't true....
And why the attorney for the girlfriend wouldn't let her repond in court when asked??..hey Maybe the St. Pete Times or Tampa Tribune can tell us who paid for the girfriends attorney since he is so cozy cozy with Gallagher....also note the girlfriend met Gllagher when HE WAS DATING HER ROOMMATE!!!!..wonder what the other roommate girlfriend has to say about Gallagher...
what a disaster!!! Gallagher is.
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By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
June 19, 2006
...."Another time, Louise said she found cocaine in a drawer in Gallagher’s Tallahassee condominium. She showed it to Gallagher’s father before flushing it down the toilet, she said."...
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By JONI JAMES
Published June 19, 2006
...."Asked whether she had ever used drugs with Gallagher, McBee didn’t answer after her attorney objected to the question."...
...."In the McBee deposition, records show attorneys for Gallagher’s first wife asked if McBee had ever used drugs with Gallagher. McBee never answered after her attorney, Tallahassee’s Wilbur Brewton, objected"...
..... "Brewton, who is a longtime Gallagher supporter and associate, declined to comment"....
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By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
June 19, 2006
...."Louise said she met Gallagher while she was a University of Miami student and he dated her roommate."....
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At 2:44 PM, June 21, 2006, jpublic said…
CV!… I wondered when you might show up. And just when I was hoping to get through the day without a case of the winds…
So, how’s things over at the CC camp?… Did you get the box of rubber thimbles I sent?
…nut
At 4:01 PM, June 21, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Jpub
Looks like you migh be able to fire-up the Moonshine still in the back yard :)..seems your man TG like the "sauce" :)..youre back in business!!!..but watch out for the "revenuers" :) and hide your dog :)
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Gallagher admits he cheated on first wife
By Aaron Deslatte
CAPITOL BUREAU
Tallahasse Democrat
June 19, 2006
..."In the transcripts, a lawyer for Gallagher's ex-wife alleges the candidate, while intoxicated, broke into their Dade County home, nearly hit his mother-in-law and stole the family dog."...
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PS Whats the word on TG Adultry with girfriend #2????????
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By MICHAEL FECHTER
The Tampa Tribune
June 19, 2006
...."Louise said she met Gallagher while she was a University of Miami student and he dated her roommate."....-
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At 10:07 PM, June 21, 2006, Paul D. Harvill said…
Conservative Voter:
Have you ever met Tom Gallagher?
At 10:08 PM, June 21, 2006, Paul D. Harvill said…
Or do you just enjoy trashing others, whom you likely have never met and certainly don't know.
At 11:03 PM, June 21, 2006, Conservative_Voter said…
Paul
Unfortunately the anwer is YES to first question and NO to second.
Gallagher does just fine being his own worst enemy. Unless your view is that someone is controlling Gallagher's mind and making him do things aginst his will such as..commit Adultry, Day Trade, hire Employees fro Private actvities with Public Vehicles, Get Illegal Contributions..this list is endless :)..in which case he should be in a padded room to protect him from himself and from us :).
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