After talk with Torre, Maddon has "adequate amount" of hope on protest
Rays manager Joe Maddon talked for five minutes this morning with MLB senior VP Joe Torre about Saturday's protest and came away knowing with "an adequate amount of hope" they will prevail.
"Typically, he listened well, and he just wants to get it right,'' Maddon said. "So it's not a dead issue yet. It's got to go through the process. He's willing to listen, so we'll present our case and see what happens.''
The first accomplishment Sunday was that Torre indicated to Maddon it was a valid protest, as there was some question if it would be allowed since there are not to be any involving replay.
But Maddon's point was that this issue involved umpiring crew chief Bob Davidson deciding to allow the use of replay too late, rather than the replay itself.
Maddon said Torre seemed "willing to listen" to the Rays case, which is that by the rules once Jays pitcher Mark Buehrle was on the mound and Rays hitter Yunel Escobar was in the box the mechanism to do a replay on the previous play was "locked.''
Thusly, Maddon said there is no wiggle room for the umpires to still allow the challenge even in the spirit of trying to get the call right. And Maddon said it was irrelevant that the call in question - Will Myers being picked off first - was ultimately overturned.
"There's nuance to that rule in some regard but to me the one part there's no nuance whatsoever, almost like the heart and soul or the crux of the system is pitcher on the rubber/batter in the box precludes anything else form happening,'' Maddon said. "You can't do anything else at that moment. That was the locking mechanism. So with that, there is no nuance set up for timing.''
Further, Maddon said, "It's tantamount to inadmissable evidence. It's no different than in a courtoom situation where if information is gotten illegally or inappropriately that you can't utilize it. So otherwise, take the rule out and put it in the garbage can.''
Maddon also said Davidson's claim, in comments to a pool reporter, that Toronto manager John Gibbons was slowly on his way out of the dugout, and that Escobar was not quite settled into the box, were not accurate.
"I hate to accuse anybody of dissembling, but I'm certain that was not the case,'' Maddon said.
Maddon said Torre asked him to "submit everything that went on yesterday from my perspective,' which he will do via email. Maddon said Torre did not give him a timeline for a decision, but it is expected to be in the next several days.
If the protest is upheld, the game - which the Rays lost 5-4 in 10 innings - would be replayed from the point of controversy, the top of the fourth inning, on. The Rays return to Toronto Sept. 12-15.