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NOVEMBER 28, 2008

Florida-Florida State blog-orama!

FsuCan't make it to Tallahassee for today's Florida-Florida State football game? No worries. Stay informed -- and entertained -- right here. In this blog post, which we hope will be somewhat of a one-stop shop for Gators and Seminoles, Times staff writer Keith Niebuhr will provide stats, game information, historical bits, trivia, photos, videos and more throughout the day -- before, during and even after the game. We hope you enjoy. And don't forget to hit refresh often.

FINAL THOUGHTS (FLORIDA WINS 45-15)

  • Everyone who thought FSU was better this year was right. Last year, the Gators won by 33 (bada bing).
  • Looking back, this was over the moment UF went the length of the field on its first drive with ease. Even in the slop, FSU couldn't handle the Gators' speed.
  • Can you believe the Gators made it look this easy --- even though Percy Harvin got hurt in the first half and finished with only 13 total yards???
  • The Gator 'D' did it again ... Only one touchdown allowed against a pretty decent offense.
  • FSU's defense wasn't nearly as good as everyone thought. In fact, it looked pretty average.
  • Still don't know what to make of the 'Noles. Anyone else feel that way? Let's see how these young guys develop -- if they keep getting better, there's no reason to think the 'Noles won't be solid next year --- but the schedule is MURDER ... with road games at UF, Clemson, BYU, UNC, Boston College and Wake.

THIRD-QUARTER THOUGHTS (FLORIDA LEADS 38-15)

  • Clearly UF is in complete control, but the Gators have allowed FSU to hang around ... somewhat.
  • Nice to see Drew Weatherford of Land O'Lakes get some playing time at QB for FSU. Too bad the 'Noles waited until the team was getting clobbered to put him in there. Drew's playing pretty well.
  • On these third-and-1 plays, I'm thinking UF should give the ball to someone other than QB Tim Tebow at this point. The 'Noles have started to smack him around a little bit.
  • Can FSU make this interesting? Of will UF put the foot back on the gas? Right now, it looks like the Gators are well on their way to a fifth straight win over FSU.

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HALFTIME THOUGHTS (FLORIDA LEADS 28-9)

  • What happened to that vaunted FSU defense? UF has 312 yards and 15 first downs.
  • FSU needed to win the turnover battle and right now it's 1-1. In truth, though, FSU's INT was the same as a punt. So in this regard, the 'Noles are doing well ... however ...
  • Why the heck did FSU fake a field goal at the end of the half? I understand wanting to get six, but three wouldn't be bad -- and the 'Noles get the ball to start the second half. To me, that was a questionable call ...
  • The FSU offense has been abysmal. QB Christian Ponder is sailing a lot of his throws, too many guys are falling down in the mud and a couple of drops haven't helped.
  • One potentially ominous stat for FSU: UF has started every drive in its own territory; FSU has started two in UF territory. What if the Gators flip the field in the second half? Makes you wonder.
  • Before I write FSU off, lets see what it can do on its first possession of the second half. The 'Noles are actually starting to run the ball fairly well, so perhaps they can find the endzone and make a game of this.

FIRST-QUARTER THOUGHTS (FLORIDA LEADS 14-3)

  • Aside from one FSU kickoff return, UF has dominated in every aspect.
  • The Gators already have 109 rushing yards. That's a lot against what has been a pretty solid FSU defense.
  • Gator QB Tim Tebow is on his game, wouldn't you say?
  • FSU has only 21 total yards and two first downs (one by penalty).
  • IF FSU is going to have any chance, it is going to have to run the ball a little better. Right now, the 'Noles have 21 yards on five carries.

PREDICTION TIME

FSU is a tough team to figure out. At times, it looks good. At times, it looks shaky. Do the 'Noles have some real potential? Or are they simply not all the great? The truth probably lies somewhere in between. At least at present time. That said, they do have a shot today, but they'll need two things to happen: 1. FSU absolutely has to win the turnover battle. And probably by more than one. 2. It can't allow UF's special teams to go crazy. If those two things happen, it could be a pretty competitive game. FSU is the underdog because of its play on the field, not because it lacks talent. Remember, these are the same players who were prized recruits coming out of high school. So there is skill wearing garnet and gold. Still, how can you not like UF today? If the Gators continue to play with the focus and passion they've displayed recently, they won't be beaten. PICK: UF 38-23

THE FORECAST IN TALLY

At 2:30 p.m., it's 69 in Tallahassee and a light rain is falling throughout the area. Scattered thunderstorms are possible. The low tonight is expected to be 63. ..... That "light rain" forecast was from Weather.com ... Apparently, the good folks there were just a TAD off. The field is SOAKED!!!!

HISTORY 101: UF-FSU year-by-year
1958: UF 21-7   Gainesville
1959: UF 18-8   Gainesville
1960: UF 3-0    Gainesville
1961: tie 3-3   Gainesville
1962: UF 20-7   Gainesville
1963: UF 7-0    Gainesville
1964: FSU 16-7  Tallahassee
1965: UF 30-17  Gainesville
1966: UF 22-19  Tallahassee
1967: FSU 21-16 Gainesville
1968: UF 9-3    Tallahassee
1969: UF 21-6   Gainesville
1970: UF 38-27  Tallahassee
1971: UF 17-15  Gainesville
1972: UF 42-13  Tallahassee
1973: UF 49-0   Gainesville
1974: UF 24-14  Tallahassee
1975: UF 34-8   Gainesville
1976: UF 33-26  Tallahassee
1977: FSU 37-9  Gainesville
1978: FSU 38-21 Tallahassee
1979: FSU 27-16 Gainesville
1980: FSU 17-13 Tallahassee
1981: UF 35-3   Gainesville
1982: UF 13-10  Tallahassee
1983: UF 53-14  Gainesville
1984: UF 27-17  Tallahassee
1985: UF 38-14  Gainesville
1986: UF 17-13  Tallahassee
1987: FSU 28-14 Gainesville
1988: FSU 52-17 Tallahassee
1989: FSU 24-17 Gainesville
1990: FSU 45-30 Tallahassee
1991: UF 14-9   Gainesville
1992: FSU 45-24 Tallahassee
1993: FSU 33-21 Gainesville
1994: tie 31-31 Tallahassee
1995: FSU 23-17 New Orleans
1995: UF 35-24  Gainesville
1996: FSU 24-21 Tallahassee
1997: UF 52-20  New Orleans
1997: UF 32-29  Gainesville
1998: FSU 23-12 Tallahassee
1999: FSU 30-23 Gainesville
2000: FSU 30-7  Tallahassee
2001: UF 37-13  Gainesville
2002: FSU 31-14 Tallahassee
2003: FSU 38-34 Gainesville
2004: UF 20-13  Tallahassee
2005: UF 34-7   Gainesville
2006: UF 21-14  Tallahassee
2007: UF 45-12  Gainesville
TOTAL: UF leads 31-19-2

STAT ATTACK

A LITTLE SOMETHING I PUT TOGETHER

It's good to see everyone is getting along. It's a heated rivalry but it doesn't have to be nasty.

Send your own ElfYourself eCards

GATORS & NOLES UNITE FOR A CAUSE ...

Can we all agree that this guy should never again be allowed in a music studio??? To quote our president-elect ... "YES, WE CAN!"

AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT ...

Can someone please tell me who dressed this guy?

FAME GAME

BurtWho is FSU's most well-known former football player? Charlie Ward? Fred Biletnikoff? Derrick Brooks?

Nah. It's Burt Reynolds, of course.

As a tribute to Reynolds, who was with the Seminoles in the 1950s, here's a list of my five favorite flicks in which he was the star:

  1. Longest Yard: As former NFL QB-turned-crook Paul Crewe, Reynolds was on the money with this performance. And this movie is as popular today as ever.
  2. Smokey and the Bandit: Playing a former legend (the Bandit), Reynolds and Jackie Gleason produced one of the funniest movies from the 1970s.
  3. The Cannonball Run (clip below): Sure it's a stupid movie, but it delivers one quality one-liner after the other.
  4. Boogie Nights: Playing a sleazy porn producer didn't really seem like a stretch, did it?
  5. Deliverance: The movie that put Reynolds on the map remains a classic. Even today, there are a scene or two that are tough to watch.

END OF AN ERA

Last week, Tampa's George Edmondson -- AKA Mr. Two Bits --- officially retired after 60 years on the job as the Gators' No. 1 cheerleader. Here's a column about him, and a video feature that I found:

INSIDE THE DOAK

DoakFSU's Doak S. Campbell Stadium, site of today's game, is a great-looking place, but that wasn't always true. In fact, it wasn't all that long ago that Seminole opponents referred to the joint as the "erector set."  Here are some stadium facts, courtesy of FSU's official athletics Web site:

  • It originally had a maximum capacity of 15,000.
  • The stadium opened on Oct. 7, 1950 with Florida State earning a 40-7 victory over Randolph-Macon (hey, didn't FSU and Florida each play those guys earlier this season?)
  • The current capacity of 82,300 reflects an increase of 28,281 since the end of the 1991 season.

Doak2_3Stadium Capacities Since 1950
1950-53 15,000
1954-60 19,000
1961-63 25,000
1964-77 40,500
1978-79 47,413
1980-81 51,094
1982-84 55,246
1985-91 60,519
1992 70,123
1993 72,589
1994 75,000
1995 77,500
1996 80,000
2001-2002 82,000
2003-present 82,300

WHO'S THAT GIRL?

TebowsgfTo say the least, some fans (you know who you are) are obsessed with every move Gator quarterback Tim Tebow takes.

D5d61efb1524635a529218cf405a92e9__2On -- and off -- the field.

How do we know this?

Because when you google his name, the first image that comes up isn't of Tebow playing football; it's of him and an unidentified girl (photo to left).

Example No. 2: A year ago, the Web site Sports By Brooks put up this photo (at right) of Tebow from a pool party. Eleven months later, the post has registered over 93,000 hits.

What's the point of this post? There isn't one. It just seemed like a good opportunity to get those photos up.

MAY I ASSIST YOU?

WhistleBoth programs have had their share of assistants go on to bigger and better things. Here are a few worth noting ...

Florida: Frank Broyles (legendary coach at Arkansas), Ken Hatfield (well-known college coach), Lindy Infante (former NFL head coach), Tim Marcum (current head coach, Tampa Bay Storm), Mike Shanahan (current head coach, Denver Broncos), Steve Spurrier (became Gators head coach), Bob Stoops (current head coach, Oklahoma), Ron Zook (current head coach, Illinois).

FSU: Joe Gibbs (won three Super Bowl titles as Washington Redskins coach), Bill Parcells (won Super Bowl twice as coach of NFL's New York Giants), Mark Richt (current head coach, Georgia).

THAT 70S SHOW

You gotta love Youtube. While goofing around I located this pretty cool video posted from the 1973 game at Florida Field. Want to know what people dressed like, or what Florida Field looked like back in the day? Then, you definitely need to push play.

BEST 'NOLES EVER? YOU BE THE JUDGE

Earlier this year, Times staff writer Brian Landman, who has covered FSU for more than a decade, picked his all-time Bobby Bowden-era FSU roster. Here's the squad (to read more about Brian's picks, go HERE):

Offense
RB: Warrick Dunn
RB: Greg Allen
QB: Charlie Ward
OL: Jamie Dukes
OL: Alex Barron
OL: Clay Shiver
OL: Jason Whitaker
OL: Walter Jones
WR: Peter Warrick
WR: E.G. Green
TE: Pat Carter
Defense
DL: Peter Boulware
DL: Corey Simon
DL: Ron Simmons
DL: Reinard Wilson
LB: Derrick Brooks
LB: Marvin Jones
LB: Paul McGowan
DB: Deion Sanders
DB: Terrell Buckley
DB: Devin Bush
DB: LeRoy Butler
Special Teams
PK: Sebastian Janikowski
P: Rohn Stark

THAT 70S SHOW, PART II

65_thumb_medNot long after completing his first year at FSU, coach Bobby Bowden did the following interview. By the way, you gotta love the threads!!! Looks like Bobby was on his way to Studio 54.

LANE FENNER: IN OR OUT?

On Oct. 8, 1966, a legend was created. The legend of Lane Fenner.

FennerIn Florida's controversial 22-19 win in Tallahassee, the 'Noles had the ball on the UF 45 with 17 seconds to play. QB Gary Pajcic heaved a pass toward the endzone that Fenner appeared to catch in bounds for the go-ahead points. But an official, Doug Moseley, said he did not have possession of the ball.

Years later, the play still ticks off FSU fans.

Here's a great account of the play I found online. It's from the Tallahassee Democrat.

Were any of you there that day? Was Fenner in? Did he have possession?

And does anyone know where Mr. Fenner is these days?

WHAT'S YOUR NO. 1 PLAY?

This rivalry has produced several great games and dozens of memorable plays. Which plays would you put at the top? Here are my choices:

1. Charlie Ward's TD pass to Warrick Dunn at Florida Field in the '93 game, an FSU win. After falling behind by a lot, the Gators rallied with Terry Dean at quarterback ... and when they closed to within six in the fourth quarter, the place was so loud my brain hurt. But then magic struck for FSU ...

2. Doug Johnson's pass to Jacquez Green in the final minutes of the '97 game, which helped the Gators stun No. 1 FSU. This was the game Gator coach Steve Spurrier rotated quarterbacks every single play. Before Johnson's hookup with Green, it appeared as if FSU would sneak out with a win.

IS THIS PHOTO REAL?

SextonRemember former FSU quarterback Wyatt Sexton? Well, for some time this photo has been circulating throughout various Gator message boards. My question to you is this: Is this real? And can anybody tell me the story behind it -- because for the life of me I can't figure out why he'd be wearing a Gator shirt.

THROWBACK TO THE FUTURE, PART I

Suppose for a moment that you've get a phone call and it's from UF athletic director Jeremy Foley. During the conversation, he mentions that he'd like to have another throwback day next season and he wants you to pick out which helmet the Gators should wear. Which one would you select? Here are some of the old ones I dug up ...                                                                                                                                                   --Zca2t86gqcasveusncal5p2gkcasdkjgpcaThink the Gators might have worn this one in 1965, Steve Spurrier's junior season. Not my favorite, but not all that bad either.

  Florida_old5

--According to the Helmet Project, Florida wore this one in 1963. Kind of sharp. I'm thinking it would look good with white tops and white pants.

Florida_old2 --When the Gators ran the option and played on "Doug's Rug" at Florida Field, this was the helmet the team wore. I used to think these were lame, but then I saw a color photo of the team from the 1970s, and it actually looked kind of cool.

THROWBACK TO THE FUTURE, PART II

Now, lets say you're in charge of throwback day at FSU ... here are your choices:

Florida_st_old3 --Looks like it was drawn by a third-grader ... but you know what? I still think it's kinda cool. Supposedly, this was worn in 1962.

Florida_st_old10 --In the late 1960s, when FSU was pretty good by the way, the 'Noles sported this look.

Florida_st_old6 --Worn in 1975 -- the year before Bobby Bowden got to Tallahassee. Not a bad look at all, actually ... But does anything really compare to the current helmet, which is among college football's best?

LOCALS ONLY

When you're watching today's game, keep an eye on the following players: They're all from the Tampa Bay area ...

FSU: Josh Dobbie, TE, Bloomingdale; Zach Hobby, K, Countryside; Carlton "Ty" Jones, RB, Middleton; Josh Levin, TE, Clearwater (no high school listed on roster); Moses McCray, DT, Hillsborough; Daniel Parvin, LB, Palm Harbor; Caz Piurowski, TE, Land O'Lakes; Rod Roberts, DB, Hernando; Rhonne Sanderson, OL, Plant; Ventoure Watkins, DB, Wharton; Drew Weatherford, QB, Land O'Lakes

Florida: Jim Barrie, OL, Berkeley Prep; Riley Cooper, WR, CCC;Torrey Davis, DL, Armwood; A.J. Jones, LB, Middleton; Louis Murphy, WR, Lakewood; Kyle Newell, OL, Chamberlain; Matt Patchan, DL, Armwood; Bryan Thomas, DB, Zephyrhills

MEET MR. DECKERHOFF

Scaugorjocagbsj9aca0afpkkcaom4n3acaIs there a more colorful play-by-play radio announcer in college football than FSU's Gene Deckerhoff? My thoughts: No. And here's a little known fact: He's actually a former Florida student. According to Deckerhoff's bio, "In 1966, while finishing work on a Bachelors Degree in International Relations, Gene became evening announcer at WGGG in Gainesville, Florida. He began his sports broadcasting career at the station when WGGG needed 'someone who knew something about basketball' to broadcast high school games."

Entering today's game, Deckerhoff has called 1,510 FSU touchdowns on the radio.

ARRESTED DEVELOPMENTS

HotdogBoth teams have had their share of off-field troubles. Most arrests are troubling ... but not all. Remember the one of former FSU QB Jared Jones? The backup made a late-night refrigerator raid in July 1999 at the home of three women whom he didn't know. The 6- foot-5, 220-pound Jones refused to leave, so the women called police. When officers arrived, he was outside with a package of hot dogs in his hands.

ATTENTION GATOR HATERS

Here are some of the better jokes about UF that I found on the Web ... If you've got any more -- and they're CLEAN -- feel free to contribute to the discussion.

  • How many Gators does it take to change a flat tire?
    Just one...unless it's a blowout, then they all show up!
  • What do you get when you cross a Gator with a groundhog?
    Six more weeks of bad football.
  • If you have a car containing a Gator wide receiver, a Gator linebacker, and a Gator defensive back, who is driving the car?
    The cop.

CHOMPING AT THE BIT

Okay Gators, your turn ...

  • What did the UF grad say to the Florida State grad?
    Will the defendant please rise.
  • What do FSU and UF students have in common?
    They both got accepted to FSU
  • How do you make Seminole Cookies?
    Put 'em in a big bowl, mix with sugar and beat for three hours.

FUTURE'S SO BRIGHT

In February, both programs likely will once again sign highly ranked recruiting classes. Thus far, the Seminoles have 18 commitments, including Alonso High star defensive tackle Demonte McAllister. Florida has 13 commitments, one of whom is St. Petersburg Catholic offensive lineman Jon Halapio.

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