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Military split on Obama, McCain

By Nancy Benac, Associated Press Writer
In print: Wednesday, July 2, 2008


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WASHINGTON — Brandon Ziegler served two tours in Iraq and wears a bracelet inscribed with the name of an Army buddy who never made it home. Jim Morin saw action in both Iraq and Afghanistan and has lost several friends to the war in Iraq, the latest just a month ago.

Both say their choice in the 2008 presidential election is clear: For Ziegler, it will be John McCain; for Morin, it will be Barack Obama.

Those viewing the presidential race through the lens of military service can see it entirely differently: The desire to quickly get out of Iraq is balanced against the hope to see the country stabilized; respect for one candidate's storied military history is weighed against another's relative youth; concern about the war's drain on the U.S. Treasury is measured against the wish for expanded benefits for new veterans.

Sizing up the candidates as the nation prepares to celebrate Independence Day, retired Command Sgt. Maj. Ronald Friday in South Carolina laughs and predicts "it's going to be an interesting summer." Put him in the undecided column.

McCain, with a family tradition of military service and his own history as a Vietnam prisoner of war, holds natural appeal for members of the military and for veterans. An AP-Yahoo News poll conducted last month found that veterans favored McCain over Obama 49 percent to 32 percent, while the two candidates ran about even in the population as a whole. Three-fourths of veterans in the survey thought McCain would be a good leader of the military, compared with one-fourth who thought likewise of Obama.

Nonetheless, dissatisfaction with the course of the war under President Bush and with the treatment of veterans returning home has given Obama, who did not serve in the armed forces, an opening with military voters and veterans. So does his appeal to younger people.

That Obama attracts support from some in the military is evident in dollars and cents: Among people who have donated at least $200 to a presidential campaign this election cycle, Obama has collected more than $327,000 from those identifying themselves as military personnel, while McCain has collected $224,000, according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission data by the Associated Press.

But it is in the voices of recent veterans and, to a lesser extent, of those still serving in the military, that the McCain vs. Obama debate comes alive — although most active-duty personnel are loath to air their views publicly because they are discouraged from mixing in politics.

Friday, who retired last year after serving as the top command sergeant major at Fort Jackson in South Carolina, said he doesn't want either candidate to take his vote for granted, based on his race or his career.

"I don't want anyone to think that because he (Obama) is of the African-American heritage that he automatically has my vote, or that McCain will get it because I was in the military," said Friday, who is black.

Friday, 49, added that he understands what McCain meant when he said the United States could have troops in Iraq for 100 years, but he doesn't necessarily support the statement. Still, he predicted, "We will be in Iraq until death do we part."

Such talk rankles Sgt. Kenyon Ralph, 24, of San Diego. Ralph, a Marine reservist who served in Iraq twice, is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War and is backing Obama.

Ralph, who once was a registered Republican and twice voted for Bush, says he gradually turned against the war and now can't bring himself to vote for someone who supports keeping troops in Iraq.

"What did he say? One hundred years or something," Ralph said of McCain. "We've got five down and 95 more years to go."

Sgt. Maj. Brent Dick, a 35-year-old career soldier stationed at Fort Bliss in Texas, hasn't decided whom he'll vote for in November, but he agrees with McCain's stance on Iraq.

"I favor staying there until we are done with our mission," said Dick. He said the candidates' plans for Iraq will be one deciding factor in his vote, but the weakening economy also is a huge concern.

Dick, who served in Afghanistan, said McCain's military service and his time as a prisoner of war are pushing him toward McCain.

"I think that means something for their character," said Dick, interviewed as he and his 8-year-old son got ready to play golf on a recent afternoon at the Fort Bliss golf course.

Not far away, standing outside his off-post home after work, Darrell Warren, a 41-year-old staff sergeant at Fort Bliss, said he's also on the fence, but leaning the other way.

"I'm a Democrat," said Warren, who served three tours in Iraq. He said that while the war will be an issue for him in picking a president, he doesn't see military service as a must.

"They don't necessarily have to have served in the military to know about it," he said.

Ziegler, interviewed in the library at Kutztown University in Pennsylvania after attending a night class, sees three reasons to vote for McCain entwined in the Republican's military service: He connects to McCain as a war veteran, believes it makes sense during wartime to have a president who has served, and says McCain's POW history speaks to the quality of his character.

As for Obama, says Ziegler: "He's new and he's young. He's got what seem like new ideas. I don't think now's the right time for that, being that we are in Iraq."

By contrast, Morin, whose 10 years in the military included four years as a West Point cadet, thinks Obama has the most "comprehensive solutions to complex problems" in Iraq and Afghanistan. He also said he was disappointed by McCain's opposition to an expansion of the GI bill that would offer full military scholarships for those who serve three years in the military.

"I have a lot of respect for McCain," Morin said. "Everyone in the military is going to tell you that."

But then he added: "I don't think he has anything new to offer. His mind-set is really stuck maybe in the Vietnam era, and the conflicts we're facing now have nothing to do with Vietnam."



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Comments on this article
by greg Jul 5, 2008 10:45 PM
reagan did serve in the army and eventually did reach the rank of captain but never served overseas and never saw combat because of his poor eyesight. he made army movies and did PR work, unlike ike, jfk, and bush, sr. he was an actor, nothing more
by Jerry Jul 4, 2008 1:38 PM
Ronald Reagan WAS in the US Army during WWII.
by Remember Jul 4, 2008 1:23 PM
Oh by the way-- In less time than we've been in Iraq......
by Remember Jul 4, 2008 12:24 PM
FDR ran and won WWII from a wheelchair, with no military experience other than working in the Naval Secretary's office.
by phil Jul 4, 2008 12:23 PM
Chad you are wrong, Reagan was in the military. He was called to active duty in April 1942 to July 1945 and achieved that rank of Captain.
by phil Jul 4, 2008 12:15 PM
Wrong Chad!!! Reagan did serve in the military on active duty from 1942 till 1945 and achieved the rank of Captain.
by tim Jul 4, 2008 11:24 AM
When is the press going to stop making excuses for Obama?
by Chad Jul 2, 2008 9:59 PM
Where is the requirement that the president has to be in the military ? People think Reagan was in the military but he was not.Reagan was just in a lot of movies where he was an actor in a military role.Why does the military's opinion matter anyway?
by Tommy Jul 2, 2008 6:41 PM
Audie Murphy became the most decorated United States combat soldier in United States military history. Was he qualified to hold public office. Heck No. I knew Murphey and he wasn't qualified to serve on the city counsel, but a great patroit.
by JimD. Jul 2, 2008 6:33 PM
The choice is really very simple.If you like the track the US is on now vote McCain.If not, Obama.Take the element of mystery out of it and ask yourself that question.Either candidate has objectionable and good features.Which ones matter most to you?
by Jerry Jul 2, 2008 5:54 PM
"Obama has the most "comprehensive solutions to complex problems"--NOT. All Obama has is pretty words that have no substance to them. McCain knows what it is like to be in the military. That is one very important ticket that he has punched.
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