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Nielsen layoffs draw Lou Dobbs' ire

By Theresa Blackwell, Times Staff Writer
In print: Friday, June 27, 2008


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OLDSMAR — When Lou Dobbs speaks, even extraterrestrials quake.

The host of the Lou Dobbs Tonight show on CNN covers national issues with an abundance of certitude.

So when Dobbs took up the Nielsen Co. layoffs in Oldsmar, with reports on Monday and Wednesday nights, many current and former Nielsen employees took heart.

They hoped Nielsen's outsourcing story would reach the national agenda.

"Exactly what needed to happen!!!" a current Nielsen employee, who asked not to be named, wrote in one of many e-mails to the Times. "The bigwigs have been meeting all day to discuss the ramifications of the news."

"I'm glad something is finally happening," said former Nielsen systems administrator Kristie Otto, who was seven months pregnant when she lost her job in October.

"What burns me up the most is that they are bringing all these people in from India at the same pay rate that we were getting paid," Otto said. "So where are the savings?"

Monday night, Dobbs and CNN correspondent Bill Tucker reported that Nielsen is laying off workers and outsourcing jobs at the company's Oldsmar facility and replacing them with workers from India on guest-worker visas. Tucker said council member Janice Miller was the only city official angry about it.

"I am incensed that our government would allow this to happen to the American people," Miller said on the show. "This is all about driving down wages in this country. It's un-American."

Oldsmar Mayor Jim Ronecker was pilloried by Dobbs, his smiling face superimposed over a photo of the Nielsen headquarters entrance.

"Well, maybe if we started outsourcing the mayor's job and those other City Council jobs and replacing them with … visa workers, maybe the people of Oldsmar would be getting more value," Dobbs said.

Ronecker said his e-mail in box was jammed with hate mail the next day — "a lot of four-letter language, short and sweet," he said.

Ronecker said the way he was portrayed Monday failed to mention that he led Nielsen to forgo government incentives that would have netted the company up to $3.1-million in future tax refunds for creating jobs.

On Wednesday night's report, Dobbs turned his focus to the federal government.

"Now, some communities are telling Washington they've had enough of seeing jobs in their communities shipped overseas or labor shipped overseas to their communities," he said.

Dobbs said Nielsen has a virtual monopoly in their market.

He suggested that people contact Florida's legislators, including U.S. Rep. Mike Bilirakis, and U.S. Sens. Bill Nelson and Mel Martinez.

"Because if they are going to just simply turn a blind eye to this kind of behavior, the country, the state of Florida, is lost," Dobbs said.

Several Oldsmar council members were interviewed, including Eric Seidel, who said, "I wish we had the authority to do something here."

Council member Suzanne Vale suggested people should contact presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain.

Nielsen's response?

"Because of who we are, we can't comment on a client's program," said Gary Holmes, Nielsen spokesman. "Instead, we are moving forward, building a competitive facility that will continue making significant contributions to the local economy."

Theresa Blackwell can be reached at tblackwell@sptimes.com or (727) 445-4170.



[Last modified: Jul 01, 2008 08:46 PM]



Comments on this article
by Former Nielsen Jul 1, 2008 8:46 PM
This Not Lou must be a L1B visa worker.
by Not Lou Jul 1, 2008 5:13 PM
Lou asks people to no cooperate with Nielsen. He is a true idiot. Nielsen still generates his ratings and if his viewers do not cooperate, his ratings go down. Proof he is a fool.
by Maria Jul 1, 2008 3:47 PM
Nielsen's scam is not only going on in Flordia, the creeps are tearing apart all of their offices all over the US.. But why would they have any loyalty to any of us? They are not an American Co. they just want the American $$.. Makes me ill...
by Former Nielsen Jun 30, 2008 1:29 PM
Jerry, if you know any legal action can be taken, let us all know.
by Jerry Jun 30, 2008 1:06 PM
Floridians need to raise he** with your US Senators & House of Rep's member - filthy politicians who voted to increase Foreign Worker Visas in exchange for campaign ca$h. Get off your a**es and call up U.S. Senators Bill Nelson and Mel Martinez !
by Exiled Floridian Jun 30, 2008 11:30 AM
This practice has been going on for *years*,all over the country,with Congress facilitating the abuse. Joe-after the heat dies down,we'll see how many citizens are employed by Nielsen.Do a bit of research on the offshoring process while you wait.
by jerry Jun 28, 2008 11:06 PM
how can this happen in our country? Importing workers to take the place of native workers and forcing them to teach the immigrants their jobs? All this has to stop now. Shipping our jobs out was immoral. Importing workers to take our jobs is crim
by Jenny Jun 28, 2008 8:28 PM
I agree that an American company should be started to replace Nielsen. A Dutch company doesn't have a lock on American consumers, but the tv networks do need us. I will now start a boycott of all television shows, except Lou Dobbs.
by US CITIZEN Jun 28, 2008 7:12 PM
Nielsen is a DUTCH company? Never knew that. LETS START AN AMERICAN BASED COMPANY AND STOP USING NIELSEN! MAYOR-Wake up and smell the coffee burning! You've already paid Nielsen hundreds of thousands in incentives to take jobs away from Americans!!
by Sam Jun 28, 2008 7:11 PM
Busted unions across the US, we get what we deserve. This Nielson move should be against the law. There needs to be an organized rally shutting down the facility by the people that are losing their jobs. It is time to make a stand.
by Russell Adams Jun 28, 2008 7:11 PM
I am one of those former Siemens employees from Lake Mary. It is a sad thing that our country is allowing this to happen. All I can say is vote the SOBs out of office. Russell
by By former Nielsen Jun 28, 2008 6:40 AM
Here ae some info: Those Indians here they use L1B visa. This type of Visa has no quota and salary requirement.there are ~30 IT firms doing outsource work, 1 in US 3 in India. Each firm avg has 60,000 employees. In us alone should have 400000 L1Bs.
by anonimous Jun 28, 2008 6:39 AM
We were told that we sould reach a 50-50 ratio employees to contractors. We aare well over that and are facing a 30% reduction in our department come August. There are 120 employees now, 40 will be asked to leave! And we are training our replacements
by Scared Jun 28, 2008 6:39 AM
Thank you Lou! Someone cares enough to SAY something ... Lord knows our congress people don't care. people training their replacements .. is that right? M Habib just got a Bently from TATA! We get a pittance separation package!
by Former Nielsen Jun 27, 2008 7:25 PM
TLS: Indians are not smarter than us. They don't do a good job, they can't do much, they are not diversified as us and they are paid too much: $50,000/year sitting there doing nothing. They are not willing to learn, they ae not dedicated.
by Bob Jun 27, 2008 7:06 PM
Calhoun is making $20M+ a year. That is fives times any of the previous CEO's. Michael Habib is getting some of his relatives to do the work now. Won't be long until he hires his mother.
by Ed Jun 27, 2008 7:00 PM
Someone tell the Times and Lou Dobbs that Mike Bilirakis is no longer in office.
by Dr_Dug Jun 27, 2008 6:59 PM
Wait till they out-source Gary Holmes(Nielsen spokesman)....then I'll laugh.
by Joe Jun 27, 2008 6:59 PM
Mayor and council had agreement with Nielsen which was win win for both Oldsmar residents and Nielsen. The Mayor and his council are not at fault. Mayor wants to assure that Nielsen keep the remaining 1,000 + employees in Oldsmar! Make sense YES??
by joe tampa Jun 27, 2008 6:59 PM
Go Lou! One of our few last remaining real journalists!
by TLS Jun 27, 2008 6:58 PM
This is a brain power issue. People from India are smarter and they will continue to take our jobs until we master Math & Science again. We are not producing enough tech workers with the smarts to run or program computers.
by Holly Jun 27, 2008 5:58 PM
Good job, Lou! I am sure that is was a bunch of "pencil pushers," and quite a few men that smell the money trail, thinking that it's more money for them. What goes around, comes back around!
by Alyssa Jun 27, 2008 5:58 PM
I'm in another part of the country working for Nielsen and spending my days training my Indian replacements. This isn't just a Florida issue - it's happening all over Nielsen.
by kirk Jun 27, 2008 5:56 PM
We vote the politicians in office not big business and we can vote them out! Get mad, get organized and get rid of them, it's just that simply. Seeing the sames faces for decades is ruining this country. I am doing my part out west.
by Bobbie Jun 27, 2008 5:32 PM
Laws are being broken here. How is Nielsen getting around this? How are these people "Helping our econony" by taking our Jobs ? H-1B Work Visa General Information: The H-1B Visa enables professionals in "Specialty Occupations" to make a valuable contribution to the American economy.
by george Jun 27, 2008 5:27 PM
No work visa's should be allowed in this country until EVERY effort has been made to employee US Citizens.How many men has India committed to the Gulf War??Our guys are laying down there lives so foreigners can come to our land to reap the benefits.
by GrimReaper Jun 27, 2008 9:54 AM
"Instead, we are moving forward, building a competitive facility that will continue making significant contributions to the local economy." BEST COMMENT SINCE NIXON'S I AM NOT A CROOK LOL LOL !
by pat Jun 27, 2008 9:53 AM
This is not the City of Oldsmar's fault. This is a Federal issue.
by AL Jun 27, 2008 9:53 AM
The American media community must stop using Nielsen's media reports and services.
by Charletta Jun 27, 2008 9:53 AM
Monopoly ?? Such so that only CNN and the Times are willing to even address this in the Media. If it was WalMart or Bank of America, it would be getting ripped apart by the network newscasters. Are they all that scared of the ratings Giant ? Sad.
by Margie Jun 27, 2008 9:49 AM
erhaps the city can convince "responsible" members of the Chamber of Commerce to offer to double the severence package of those being layed off so that they can at least forgo training their replacements, (as a slap in the face to Nielsen).
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