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Thousands of General Motors retirees in the Tampa Bay area are watching the unthinkable unfold.
Their paternalistic former employer, financial lifeline and symbol of America's once-dominant manufacturing base is in its toughest fight for survival ever.
GM has warned it could run out of cash next year, and creditors could force the company into bankruptcy if it violates terms of some of its debt next month. Short of a massive federal bailout, the automaker's stock could be worthless by next year, analysts have predicted. Even a Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization may not help unearth new financing because of the global credit crunch. That could mean liquidating the 100-year-old company.
Marian Fabi of Indian Shores, who worked at a GM Cadillac factory in Detroit for 30 years along with her husband, Fred, said she fears for her family's health benefits and pension plans. But she fears more for the younger generation and a broader economic slump.
"The whole country needs to be concerned about GM's survival, not only us retirees,'' she said, "because it trickles down to everyone.''
Florida has long been a major haven for auto industry retirees, second only to Michigan, with a handful of retiree clubs scattered across the state. Two United Auto Workers' retiree groups based in Pinellas County count about 5,000 members. Fred Fabi is chairman of a UAW group that helps some 3,000 retirees in Pinellas, Hillsborough and Manatee counties, many of them part of GM's extended family.
GM, which has more retirees than active workers, has been struggling to meet obligations to its aging former workforce as auto sales have fallen dramatically. The company reportedly spent $4.6-billion on health care in 2007 for its 1-million employees and retirees and their dependents.
Ford and Chrysler are also burning through cash and angling for federal help, but General Motors has taken center stage. GM CEO Rick Wagoner has said the automaker needs help now and warns against waiting until President-elect Barack Obama takes office Jan. 20.
Before adjourning for the elections, Congress gave $25-billion in government-backed loans to the automakers to prod them to retool their factories to make more efficient vehicles. A more direct and bigger bailout may be taken up next week.
In one cutback, GM next month is phasing out its long-promised lifetime health care coverage for its approximately 100,000 white-collar retirees. (Former factory workers have union contracts that prevent the company from revoking their coverage.)
Salaried retirees across the country have rallied to voice frustration over the decision and to educate themselves on how to use Medicare to pay for prescription drugs and doctor visits.
Jack Dickinson has been hearing from plenty of them on a Web site for auto retirees that he runs called www.overthehillcarpeople.com.
"Are they bitter about losing their health care benefits? Yes. And do they think it's discriminatory to take away salaried 65-year-olds and not hourly 65-year-olds? Yes,'' Dickinson said Tuesday.
"I'm sure it has created a lot of ill will, but I'll tell you 90 percent of retirees will still stand behind GM, because it's in their blood, and they're not going to get it out. No matter what, I'll be driving General Motors' vehicles because I believe in them.''
Bob Pharis, who is now in his 27th year of retirement after working 27 years for GM at a tech center near Warren, Mich., understood why the company made the cutback. The 85-year-old Homosassa resident said the $300 a month payment that GM is promising salaried retirees to help find replacement coverage should help him bridge the gap.
And, at least for him, the timing was right. He already had quadruple bypass surgery that was covered by GM benefits. "Most of the problems I've had are already fixed,'' he said. "It's like my son says, 'You've been rebuilt.' ''
Neither is Pharis worried about his pension. The U.S. Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. insures private-sector pension plans and pays benefits to workers if a plan fails, but the government agency does not insure health insurance benefits.
GM, Ford and Chrysler retirees currently rely on a union-run health care trust known as a voluntary employee beneficiary association, or VEBA, as insurance against losing health care benefits. The trust was supposed to help automakers avoid bankruptcy by capping how much they pay for retiree health care. But in July, GM deferred a $1.7-billion payment into the VEBA and members of the trust board said they are worried they will stand in line with other creditors if the companies go bankrupt.
Like Dickinson, Pharis thinks the Big Three Detroit automakers will survive, either by government intervention or their own devices. The failure of GM, in particular, "is just not an option in my opinion,'' he said. "They can't close the place and put all those people out of work.''
In one sign of optimism, JPMorgan credit analysts have rated GM's bonds a "buy'' saying they are confident the company still has other sources of liquidity to keep it afloat — such as an overfunded pension plan, possible asset sales, cost-cutting and government loans.
Still, many investors are wary that GM's fortunes will change anytime soon.
"Without government assistance, we believe that GM's collapse would be inevitable, and that it would precipitate systemic risk that would be difficult to overcome for automakers, suppliers, retailers, and sectors of the U.S. economy," Deutsche Bank broker Rod Lache wrote in a note to investors.
The automaker's stock is now trading at levels seen in the 1940s. Shares slumped another 14 percent Tuesday to close at $2.92, knocking down the market capitalization of the once mighty corporate titan to a mere $1.65-billion, smaller even than the Tampa Bay area's Raymond James Financial.
A year ago, General Motors was a $30 stock.
Jeff Harrington can be reached at (727) 893-8242 or harrington@sptimes.com
What's next
Bush administration officials have concluded the federal bailout bill that passed earlier does not permit loans to the auto industry, but lawmakers are expected to return to Washington, D.C., for a brief session beginning next week. Some Democratic leaders are pushing to include financial aid to struggling automakers as part of a new stimulus package.
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Comments on this article
by Lloyd
Nov 14, 2008 9:23 PM
How many Toyota retirees, live close to you?
by David
Nov 14, 2008 7:33 PM
GM could have saved themselves! Please watch the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?". GM has the technology, but they sold out and took this car from their owners in the 1990's. This film will ANGER you into action! SHAME ON GM!!!
by Glenn
Nov 14, 2008 7:11 PM
After 10 years at Ford (consultant), I can tell you that whether you like it or not, Detroit3 money fuels a lot of America, from financial services to IT to vacations. Shut them down? Shut down the US. Wish it weren't the truth.
by booger
Nov 14, 2008 7:00 PM
Unions are the refuge of the lazy, the incompetent, and the ignorant. A buddy of mine was a cleanup guy at GM. Sweep the area, throw away a few boxes, and his 'quota' was met. He slept the other 6 hours of his 8 hour shift. Thats the union way!
by robert
Nov 14, 2008 10:35 AM
the uaw unions asked and got too much for their union and we the people have to pay for an overburdened pension/health plan
by michael
Nov 14, 2008 10:34 AM
They have been making crappy gas powered cars forever...why would i think their electric cars would differ? Let them go belly up.
by john
Nov 14, 2008 10:30 AM
let the big 3 go they build crap anyway
by Rodger
Nov 14, 2008 10:29 AM
Foreign cars should have had a 100% luxury tax added 40 years ago.
by Duane
Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM
I am also from the Detroit area. With that said, I believe that the problem lies with a corporate management AND the greedy unions (primarily the UAW). We were warned of this in 1973 with the first fuel crisis. Government has also overregulated them.
by Matthew
Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM
I can not believe all the "I hate U.S.automakers" comments. Are we just going to farm out everything out of thi country? The import plants in the US got huge tax breaks, no unions and all profits are shipped out of America. WAKE UP!!
by JR
Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM
Auto industry is a necessity!Manufacturing is built around it.If they take the $,salaries of execs. should be cut,auto prices lowered so that all can afford a car that will get us to and from work and get us back on our feet.
by KC
Nov 13, 2008 4:08 PM
Seems to me the system is rewarding failure, the banks get billions. Now GM will get billions for what? Is this the new American way - next we will be bailing out Walmart. CAPITILISM... NOT SOCIALISM!
by Gordon
Nov 13, 2008 4:07 PM
Most realize that: excessive acquience to the demands of UAW; retirement after thirty years; longer life expectancies; and unexpected higher heath care costs are the primary causes of the present problem--and that fed money won't elimiate the causes.
by Chloe
Nov 13, 2008 3:47 PM
Capitalism is great, it is the simpletons who don't want to work and those who try to avoid national health so that everyone is covered that bring it down.
by Honor
Nov 13, 2008 3:46 PM
No one should lose their health benefits. Those of you who have a problem with someone working his or her entire career and earning those benefits are really mean and jealous.
Next time you use the ER for a cold, think about us paying your fee.
by Chloe
Nov 13, 2008 3:05 PM
Capitalism is great, it is the simpletons who don't want to work and those who try to avoid national health so that everyone is covered that bring it down.
by John
Nov 13, 2008 11:51 AM
No honest discussion of the problems of the auto industry is complete with a look at the crippling role of union contracts. Product design & market conditions matter too, but I blame the UAW for this mess.
by MLO
Nov 13, 2008 11:51 AM
I have retired autoworkers in my family. The truth is the US gov't is largely responsible for the mess the auto co's are in through subsidizing big oil over every other interest. Outside of the US, Ford is healthier than Toyota.
by Gordon
Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM
Most realize that: excessive acquience to the demands of UAW; retirement after thirty years; longer life expectancies; and unexpected higher heath care costs are the primary causes of the present problem--and that fed money won't elimiate the causes.
by Allan
Nov 13, 2008 11:50 AM
American labor: we made it, so we should take it, because it's ours! Smash capitalism! For a Workers' Socialist America! Link: http://itsyourtimes.com/?q=node/4045
by Allan
Nov 13, 2008 1:51 AM
Smash capitalism. For a socialist workers' America. Link:
http://itsyourtimes.com/?q=node/4045
by Bob
Nov 13, 2008 1:46 AM
Why should we pay to bail out GM, Ford and Chrysler? They make horrible quality cars that nobody wants. Let them go. If we give them money, what is going to change other than they go out of business later vs. sooner?
by JT
Nov 13, 2008 1:39 AM
No way I want my money invested in GM, Ford or Chrysler. Let Chp 11 work the way it has to for everyone else that hits hard times. Good enough for the average folks good enough for GM. I don't even have a pension why should I have to pay for theirs
by Patrick
Nov 13, 2008 1:37 AM
Let the big 3 fold, not bailout, they have no vision and their corporate philosophy is outdated. No taxpayer dollars for the big 3 survival of the fittest.
by Sandra
Nov 13, 2008 1:33 AM
My father is 82 yrs old and retired from GM after 32 yrs. I don't how he would live without his pension. It's a shame that he is losing his health benifits at this age. Shame on someone!
by Peter
Nov 13, 2008 1:31 AM
What about a loan accompanied with a contract to replace the federal automotive fleet with hybrids, designed and built by GM to U.S. government specifications. That way, even if GM fails, we will still get our moneys worth.
by Wade
Nov 12, 2008 8:37 PM
Union DO ask for wages that often break companies. CEOs who head companies that are losing money should not be given huge salaries. GM should only be able to get money from those who would give to them. John should be one of those. I'd bet he's not.
by Dick
Nov 12, 2008 8:36 PM
I am a native born Democrat. Small business owner. I voted for the other guy. You idiots that like unions should move to Detroit. The place sucks. The mob runs the unions there. My men get free healthcare and benefits. Good luck on your experiment...
by Ron
Nov 12, 2008 8:35 PM
Funny how millions of people have grown up and enjoyed their life in Florida, with its slave wages. We have worked, bought homes, and retired comfortably without having the rest of the nation pay an additional $2500/vehicle to cover our retirement.
by Frank
Nov 12, 2008 8:33 PM
Union contracts created an unsustainable layering of expense. Every new GM retiree adds to the effective cost of every new GM vehicle. If all you "buy American" folks would just add that cost to the price of your new GM vehicle, problem solved. Deal?
by Tom
Nov 12, 2008 8:32 PM
John you have no clue. Go back where you came from if you don't like it here. I hope you enjoy paying more taxes during the next four years. I am a democrat who puts reason above party. Good luck waiting for your welfare check. It is coming soon.
by Judy
Nov 12, 2008 8:32 PM
Interesting..I still have my "74" Chevy truck,93 K original miles, and I LOVE IT!!They knew how to make car
s in the 70's, and I use it all the time. I LOVE MY CHEVY!! Forget new, a bucket of bolts, overpriced, no style, just to show off forneighbor
by dick
Nov 12, 2008 8:32 PM
Bull, right on brother!
by Rubin
Nov 12, 2008 6:29 PM
I love how all these nonunion slobs just love to bash the unions. You think the U.S. is better off without unions? Wait till they're all gone and THEN see where the working person be. But you don't know any better.
by Bull
Nov 12, 2008 6:11 PM
Quoting BY HONOR: "Health benefits should not be negotiable. They should stay in place as they were promised."
ANd by whom, (me via taxes?) the private sector worker WITHOUT retiree health care?
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