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Crist: Allstate offered state millions to resolve dispute

By Tom Zucco and Jennifer Liberto, Times Staff Writers
In print: Friday, April 25, 2008


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TALLAHASSEE — Hammered by the courts and threatened with a crackdown by Florida's insurance commissioner, Allstate Corp. quietly offered the state millions to let the company off the hook and retract a pending order that would stop the insurance giant from selling new policies in Florida, state officials say.

Gov. Charlie Crist confirmed the Allstate offer was floated recently, and he promptly rejected it. Allstate officials said late Thursday that no offer had been made.

Florida regulators are trying to suspend Allstate's license until the Illinois-based insurer turns over documents that regulators say are key to an investigation into Allstate's ratemaking practices.

Insurance agents for Allstate said they heard the offer at one point reached as much as $10-million, but insurance experts familiar with the talks say the company's offer wasn't that high.

Asked if a figure of $10-million was accurate, Crist said, "something like that sounds familiar."

''I can't remember how it came about," said Crist, who had been briefed on the negotiations. "But I rejected it out of hand. It sounded weird to me. Here we are at the precipice of getting to the truth and the company wants to throw money at you. That's not acceptable."

Allstate spokesman Adam Shores denied the company had made the offer but said negotiations are ongoing.

"We are in continuous conversations with (regulators) as to what specifically they're looking for and what exactly they need," Shores said.

Tom Zutell, a spokesman for Insurance Commissioner Kevin McCarty, who is traveling out of the country, initially confirmed a multimillion-dollar offer had been discussed. He later issued a statement to the St. Petersburg Times.

"A monetary settlement alone would not produce those documents (regulators) must have to determine if there has been consistent and systematic harm perpetrated on Florida's consumers," the statement said.

Earlier this month, a state appeals court upheld McCarty's January order suspending Allstate from writing new business. But Allstate challenged the ruling. The court's final decision could come as early as Tuesday.

As the drama plays out, Florida's 1,100 Allstate agents and their staffs are caught in the middle, said Jim Fish, executive director of the National Association of Professional Allstate Agents, a group not affiliated with Allstate Corp.

"The company has tried to manage the collateral damage from this whole fiasco," Fish said Thursday. "They're trying to tell agents they're taking care of it, so until just recently, the agents have been following company line."

But the agents don't know what will happen next and worry that the suspension will soon be reinstated, Fish said.

"We get dozens of calls every day from agents who are very concerned the company has not approved a plan for them in case this does go into effect,'' Fish said. "We don't know the company's plan. The company seems to think everything will work out okay."

Sen. Jeff Atwater, the incoming Republican Senate president from North Palm Beach who has lately been an unrelenting critic of the industry, said that he hadn't heard of a multimillion-dollar offer but that he knew the parties were talking.

"It would seem to me that complying with the subpoena would be the best way to get a resolution," Atwater said.

Tom Zucco can be reached at zucco@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8247. Jennifer Liberto can be reached at jliberto@sptimes.com or (850) 224-7263.



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Comments on this article
by Tony Apr 28, 2008 10:06 AM
If this does anything, it convinces Allstate to tighten the belt in writing insurance in Florida! Ultimately costing the consumer and other companies watching to scale back. No profit in Florida for writing home insurance...another hurricane season!
by Karen Apr 28, 2008 10:04 AM
I dont see many pro Allstate statements here at all. Only people who are aware of what this legislature is doing to Florida. Maybe people shouldnt believe EVERYTHING they read in the newspapers nad hear on TV news.
by Anikan Apr 28, 2008 9:16 AM
Clearly half the people making statements in favor of allsate on this blog are company people or public relations people trying to spin this story against the state and the gov, who are tying to protect the citizens of fla from being raped by this co
by Jimbo Apr 28, 2008 9:14 AM
John wants a socialist approach (make All lower prices in other states) John they price to the local risk. Fla is risky. Now back to your Cartoons as they already have elswhere.
by IndustryOutOfControl Apr 27, 2008 1:50 PM
Agents need to be held accountable to- doing bait and switch with H08 vs H03s so you think you have the same coverage and you have none. TRANSPARENCY for the people, please! I have an MBA and don't understand half of it.
by Janet Apr 27, 2008 12:06 PM
If State of Florida is acting to protect us against higher premiums - WHERE ARE THEY IN PROTECING US AGAINST CITIZEN'S PREMIUMS - TWICE WHAT MY NATIONWIDE PREMIUM WAS WHEN BECAUSE OF THE STATE'S ACTIONS AGAINST CARRIERS I WAS FORC
by John Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM
How about some of these states where AllState hasn't paid out a lot make All State lower their rates there.
by Izie Apr 27, 2008 12:05 PM
So John you think the answer is dropping a company like State FArm, one of the VERY FEW Financially stable companies left in this state - so heavily regulated that it's impossible to do business here the American Way-too bad you only k
by Izie Apr 27, 2008 12:01 PM
Charlie, you're right on target - WE ALL PAY for Citizens - and Charlie only cares about himself -Citizens Insurance Co formed as "last resort" - by legislators who DO NOT KNOW INSURANCE - Look at their coffers
by Izie Apr 27, 2008 11:51 AM
Everald, you should learn about business of insurance - you would run out GEICO, PROGRESSIVE, all companies who do not choose to write HO ins? What about Doctors who don't choose to be dentists??
by Jimbo Apr 26, 2008 7:36 AM
So how long do you think it will be before Allstate files it's letter of withdrawl from doing business in the Stata of Florida?. Remember your hero Crist when Citizens (and Florida) is bankrupted by back to back mega storms. Then you w
by Jimbo Apr 26, 2008 7:36 AM
That's right the Govt is going to take care of you (through Citizens). You have to be a socialist moron to believe that! By the way, Crist/Mcarty already shook down St Farm for millions. Do you wonder who brought up the Settlement? My
by Jay Apr 26, 2008 7:36 AM
All of us would be better off if the insurance industry as a whole would be put on the block for a good examination.Look at the perks given to all the higher characters in this play. We desrerve better representation for insurance and energy.
by Dan Apr 25, 2008 4:53 PM
Spreading the risk is the good part of insurance. Lying about profit and gouging customers is the bad. All Ins. co.'s are guilty of the latter.
by Melissa Apr 25, 2008 4:44 PM
I couldnt agree more with Karen!
by WA Apr 25, 2008 4:33 PM
Allstate has lost so much credability in my mind over this whole entire issue. I work for Citizens in the finance division. You Insurance peddlers don't know squat! And another thing! Leave Charlie alone!
by Karen Apr 25, 2008 4:33 PM
To "JoJo Do you really think that employees or Agents have anything to do with this? You obviously dont work for a large corporation. Do you think that they consult employees and Agents before they make decisions? Grow up
by Denver Apr 25, 2008 4:32 PM
We have no companies left in Florida who write home and auto. We have small companies with no assets and Citizens. What do you thing will happen- I guess Florida is banking on a gov. bailout. Crist hasn't helped us!!!
by Paul Apr 25, 2008 3:00 PM
Since 1992, homeowner's insurers have paid out 6 BILLION more in claims than they've collected in premiums here in Florida. Citizen's is a ticking time bomb. Let 'em charge anything they want - that'll attract competito
by Charlie Apr 25, 2008 1:31 PM
It's nice to see some are seeing the truth w/ your commenting!! Others are truly uneducated with Citizens dreams (we'll all pay) and finally many recognize it is all BS grandstanding and this will hurt us all in the long run.. GO
by Charles Apr 25, 2008 1:17 PM
He said/ She said. One says they did one says they did not. Who do we believe?A company motivated by money or a Governor motivated by fame and moving up in the political world?
by Stu Apr 25, 2008 1:17 PM
I could be off but hasn't Allstate given the OIR over 100,000 pages of their personal documents for review. This sounds like compliance to me. Allstate has competitve rates if they did not they would not be the 2nd largest insurance carrier.
by Dennis Apr 25, 2008 12:29 PM
I could be wrong but it sounds like a bribe except since it was to the state, it would be a "settlement".
by Ted Apr 25, 2008 11:51 AM
It's all a ploy to get themselves votes. Charlie, you won't see another 4 years. McCarty, either will you! They are both up a creek when a hurricane hits.
by Phil Apr 25, 2008 11:05 AM
Wake up folks!!! Go on Crist website and click on the homeowner insurance link and you will see that Allstate is the 2nd LOWEST homeowner insurance carrier in the state. How are they gouging us when Crist's own website states this.Conspiracy by
by Syd Apr 25, 2008 11:05 AM
You want to see an insurance crisis!! If the state runs out a comapny as big as Allstate from this state you will see rates hit an all time high. When there is no competition ,prices go higher and higher.They need to find middle ground.
by Kim Apr 25, 2008 11:05 AM
Here's food for thought. You take your home annual policy premium. Divide that in your building coverage. That is how many years it takes to save if you set aside the premium every year. Average is 80 years
by Colleen Apr 25, 2008 11:05 AM
I read all the public docs. McKinsey report is a claims auto report. The State is questionsing HB1A, a home rates modeling for reinsurance. I fail to see how the 2 relate?
by Tab Apr 25, 2008 11:04 AM
Ask yourselves why did the Insurance Commisioner give State Farm a 52% rate increase 2 years ago and never asked for papers showing how they acheived it BUT they want it from Allstate? Sounds like McCarty is in bed with State Farm to me.
by Abe Apr 25, 2008 11:04 AM
Competition is the answer to this problem open up Citizens and let the State write auto , property , and life .Two things will happen more options and lower rates from the private sector.Insurance is a cash cow !
by Aaron Apr 25, 2008 11:04 AM
The question that should be asked is why we aren't investigating the fuel industry as aggressively as the Home Owners insurance industry? More people being hurt worse by them than they are by Allstate..
by John Apr 25, 2008 10:41 AM
Just called and cancelled my auto policies with State Farm today after 10 years... went with Geico. Thanks for dropping my HO insurance State Farm... take that.
by floridian Apr 25, 2008 10:41 AM
Geico, Progressive, 21 Century start selling homeowners? Good luck, Allstate has taken a loss on homeowners for years in Florida. Who would want to run a business that was losing money every year? If you would, I have a great investment for you!
by JoJo Apr 25, 2008 10:41 AM
Allstate and anyone who works for them are scum and should feel ashamed of themselves.
by Larry Apr 25, 2008 10:41 AM
Tom, His last name is Crist.
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