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As Florida's growth stalls and demand for electricity ebbs, the state faces a $30-billion question: Do we need a massive investment in new nuclear power?
Florida's largest electric companies are reeling from a one-two punch of stalled economic growth paired with declining household energy use. The combined trends pummeled electricity sales, leaving Progress Energy, Tampa Electric and Florida Power & Light facing the slowest growth they have seen in nearly a decade.
The sluggish economy calls into question the need for the state's "nuclear renaissance," including the $17-billion Progress Energy plans to spend on its Levy County project, and $12-billion or more Florida Power & Light plans to invest in two new reactors near Miami.
Under state law, Progress Energy can recoup some costs by charging customers as a plant is built — an option that mitigates financial risk to Progress itself. If demand dries up, the fear is consumers could get stuck with a multibillion-dollar bill and no power plants to show for it.
It happened before, and the nuclear industry is still haunted by the financial meltdowns of the early 1980s.
Industry experts recite a litany of reasons that this time will be different: streamlined licensing, 30 years of experience, "off the shelf" reactors. But critics say Florida has ignored the lessons of the past.
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When Progress Energy faces the Florida Public Service Commission this week, it faces two simple questions: Is nuclear the most cost-effective way to provide power? Does Florida really need it? Progress Energy thinks so, predicting growth at nearly 1.8 percent a year over the next decade.
But the PSC has to decide if demand will grow quite so rapidly. A recent report from the University of Florida predicted the slowest growth in 30 years, with a 1.1 percent annual increase from 2007 to 2010, edging up to 1.6 percent from 2010 to 2020. Both Tampa Electric and Florida Power & Light predicted less than 1 percent growth this year.
The difference may seem slight, but it's compounded by other trends. New laws tightened energy requirements for lighting, appliances and new buildings. An economic downturn paired with high energy costs has consumers warily eyeing their meters, looking for ways to save.
None of that has scared Progress Energy off nuclear, said Jeff Lyash, president and chief executive officer of Progress Energy Florida. The region remains strong and growth will return, he predicted.
"I don't see anything in this cycle that I think is substantially different than the past."
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The debate today conjures some spectacular failures of the past. In the 1960s and early 1970s, the industry was building nuclear power plants in four to five years at a cost of about $500-million each, according to the Nuclear Energy Institute. Costs ballooned as electricity demand dried up. Within a decade, nuclear plants took twice as long to build and cost up to 10 times as much.
The financial fallout poisoned the nuclear boom. In 1983, the Washington Public Power Supply System, or WPPSS — its detractors dubbed it "Whoops" — defaulted on $2.25-billion, the largest bond default in U.S. history. The Public Service Company of Indiana abandoned a $2.5-billion investment in Marble Hill. Cincinnati Gas & Electric abandoned the almost-finished Zimmer plant.
Shoreham. Seabrook. Watts Bar. Cherokee. For reasons of safety, money and politics, all of these projects were delayed for years or shelved.
Not everyone agrees history will repeat itself.
David Parker, a senior utility analyst for Robert W. Baird in Tampa, contends "a lot of good, smart planning has gone into this next wave of nuclear construction. … I think it looks like a real wise choice for Florida."
Bill Newton, executive director of the Florida Consumer Action Network, dissents.
"We're really concerned about our pocketbooks, and getting into a situation where we have a giant, hugely expensive boondoggle on our hands."
Both Newton and Parker saw the earlier nuclear construction squeeze from the inside.
In the early 1980s, Newton worked for the Washington State agency that oversaw power plant siting. Parker worked in finance for CMS Energy in Michigan, which had invested more than $1-billion in its Midland plant before it ran out of money, turning Midland into a natural gas plant instead.
While Newton fears a "Whoops" redux, Parker believes utilities and investors learned a valuable lesson by getting burned.
"That said," Parker added ruefully, "call me in a decade and ask me again."
Asjylyn Loder can be reached at aloder@sptimes.com or (813) 225-3117.
>>q&A
Progress Energy nuclear plant
Why should I care about the hearing?
If the commission agrees with Progress Energy on the need to build a nuclear plant, customers could start seeing the impact on their monthly bills as early as next year. Progress Energy estimates the average residential customer could see an increase of $9 a month in 2009.
When will the commission decide?
The commission's staff is expected to offer an opinion in early July, and the commission is slated to vote on it at its July 15 meeting.
What about the safety and environmental impacts of nuclear power?
Those issues are primarily examined by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection and the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. Hearings are not yet scheduled.
>>fast facts
What's happening?
On Wednesday, the Florida Public Service Commission begins a three-day hearing on Progress Energy's plans to build a nuclear power plant in Levy County, several miles north of Crystal River. The utility wants to build two 1,100-megawatt reactors and 200 miles of transmission lines to carry the power to customers at an estimated cost of $17-billion.
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Comments on this article
by Larry
May 26, 2008 11:16 AM
The US is no longer thinking about the future. Mining and burning coal, and transporting oil from the Middle East is all that the leftists will allow. Our country is in decline and will continue on this path.
by Ryan
May 20, 2008 6:27 PM
Why don't we just cover the Dome with Solar panels? LOL. St Pete wouldn't have to deal with power companies again!
by Joe
May 20, 2008 5:20 PM
People must come to the realization that we must stop wasting all the power we produce. If we replace inefficient a/c units with new efficient ones we will not need to build any new power plants period. Nukes have hidden costs and are too expensive.
by Kerry
May 20, 2008 4:26 PM
Wind power is unrealiable and difficult to "shape" for transmission. Solar is costly and inefficient. Both would not even be feasible if not for the heavy subsidies currently in place. Neither would withstand the extreme Florida climate.
by David
May 20, 2008 4:18 PM
You don't have to look at France, look at the U.S. Navy; they/we have been using it for years. Nuclear would be more economic without the NIMBYs; not that much waste is created. Water usage is the big environ issue. This enviro says yes to nuclear
by Wayne
May 20, 2008 11:01 AM
Eighty percent of Frances electric power is nucler. No polution & no green house emmissions. Big oil will hate it & we will own it. It will help free us from hostile countries overcharging or cutting us off. Works for me! Let get going!
by Frank
May 20, 2008 11:01 AM
Nick, look it up....Germany and New Jersey are 2 of the largest solar markets in the world....you telling me they have more sun than Florida???
by Dave in St Pete
May 20, 2008 11:00 AM
FL does NOT have enough wind for wind power. Look into it, I have. Solar is not efficient enough, yet. Nuke is the way, look at France!
by terry
May 20, 2008 10:57 AM
and still today,complete towns,cities,lose there electricty cause of human failure, a lightin storm ,or just a weak part,,i would go with what we dont know,,seems it works every now and then,,if its nuk, put the reactors down in miami,PLEASE,,,,
by Tom
May 20, 2008 7:44 AM
This IS the Sunshine State, and a breakthrough in efficiency of solar panels was just announced. We need to find a way to legislate the motivation for Florida's power companies to lead the way to a solar energy future.
by john
May 20, 2008 7:44 AM
Florida investing in the future? Hasn't ever happened before, and it surely won't happen now. We can power the nursing homes with oil.
by Bill
May 19, 2008 7:38 PM
Unbelievable that a newspaper like the Times can't run a fair complete story. How can you not include anything about the cost of fossil fuels both financial and climatic? Nukes are the only answer until fusion is perfected.
by Nick
May 19, 2008 6:08 PM
And this information is based on hard science. Look it up!
by Nick
May 19, 2008 6:08 PM
News flash to the solar/wind power people. Solar/wind power in Florida isn't practical. FL has even has the highest cloud cover average in the afternoons due to all the thunder storms in the summer and the wind isn't consistent enough to rely on.
by Mass Defect
May 19, 2008 6:07 PM
lets see what happens after a democrat gets elected as president... the whole game may change for nuclear
by Ed
May 19, 2008 4:10 PM
The reality is that Florida will be losing electricity production from Crystal River and Turkey Point nuclear plants at some point. How many wind turbines and solar panels do you think it will take to produce the needed electricity?
by Dave
May 19, 2008 1:43 PM
This state is perfect for Wind and Solar. As soon as we elect a Gov. that isn't bought out the sooner we'll able to pursue.
by JR
May 19, 2008 1:25 PM
Why not build then sooner rather than later even if demand does end up slower, crank them up to full power, and lower the use of oil/coal/etc which isn't as clean?
by Dave
May 19, 2008 1:23 PM
Rod, spend 17 billion on wind mills? At 100k each that's 170,000 windmills. As much commotion as you hear about utility poles going through neighborhoods I can't imaging how much people will complain about windmills and their constant droning.
by Dave
May 19, 2008 1:21 PM
Bob, if we drilled for oil off the east coast instead of letting the Chinese do it, the costs would come down AND we would be less dependant on foreign oil.
by Bill
May 19, 2008 12:30 PM
PPP that stands for Puplic Private Partnerships should be PPPP. Private Profit and Public Pays.
by Bill
May 19, 2008 12:30 PM
Nuc plants may not produce much CO2 when running but a lot of CO2 is produced in building them and in mining and refining the uranium. Overall they are not that clean.
by Frank
May 19, 2008 12:30 PM
Harold, how much fossil fuels will be consumed and CO2 put out by all the construction equipment over 10 year construction timeline???
by Greg
May 19, 2008 12:30 PM
Boy does this author have an agenda. I went to work renovating Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant in 1987 (built in the 60's)and starting in 1992 all three reactors are on-line and breaking records. So is Watts Bar, delayed by wackos chained to the gate.
by Think
May 19, 2008 10:49 AM
Progress Energy will get these plants at NO COST or RISK to them, and close the coal plants when carbon controls kick in. It is NOT about DEMAND. Give us help on solar and wind PSC and Tallahassee, so our bills can go down.
by Think
May 19, 2008 10:35 AM
History won't repeat itself (Bond default)because the plants aren't being paid for by investors. Customers have no ownership but are footing the bill. CORPORATE WELFARE doled out by the PSC. The Times should be SCREAMING against this.
by geezer
May 19, 2008 10:34 AM
Why not go solar? While the cost of nuclear plants has ballooned the cost of solar has come down and the science has immensely improved. And there is still the problem of nuclear waste along with safety to us and the environment.
by Harold
May 19, 2008 10:34 AM
How can a liberal environut newspaper leave out mention of GLOBAL WARMING in this story. Have you completely forgotten CO2. You do know that Nuc plants do not produce CO2----
by Pam
May 19, 2008 10:34 AM
We need more nuclear plants! Florida will still grow and nuclear is much cleaner than coal or oil burning plants. Also, it will boost the local economy with construction and employment. Also, the next wave of cars will be plug in-electric!
by Ex Powerguy
May 19, 2008 10:34 AM
More Progress Energy tales of woe and another opportunity for Lyash and the board to make more money off the backs of the working class. If they managed the company better the surcharge.
by Bob
May 19, 2008 10:34 AM
No matter how you look at it, we need nuclear to replace coal, oil and gas to cut depedancy on high cost fossil fuels. It is also the most economic way to reduce greenhouse gas emmissions. I doubt electricty consumption will drop.
by Al
May 19, 2008 9:39 AM
We need nuclear energy...it's now extremely safe, clean and un-Arab.
by SD
May 19, 2008 9:39 AM
Whatever gets built to meet the energy needs of the state - you must ensure it does not require even one drop of foreign oil or gas to power it. End our dependence on foreign sources of energy NOW!
by rod
May 19, 2008 9:39 AM
Why doesn't Progress instead spend 17 billion on wind power?
by Slim
May 19, 2008 9:39 AM
Lack of growth is a good thing. Mix that with the global warming hoax and there's obviously no need for a nuke plant. Well, unless we like enriching people who hates us like the saudis, venezuela and iran.
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