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By
Eddie R. Cole, Times Staff Writer
In print: Wednesday, June 4, 2008
A distilled-water storage tank is part of the hydrogen-powered system used on David Hansen’s 1997 SUV. He says that instead of 8 miles per gallon in the city, the modified vehicle gets about 18.
ST. PETERSBURG — Dave Hansen thinks he has found a way to cut the cost of gas in half.
In fact, he said his month-old idea prompted a Tampa Bay investor to offer him a seven-figure advance for the rights of his invention. But Hansen turned that offer down.
He said his new hydrogen-supplemental fuel system is not about fame or fortune, though it doubles a vehicle's mileage per gallon. It's about fishing.
"After paying about 500 to 600 bucks to catch four or five trout, I thought there has to be a better way," said the 47-year-old retired business owner who is now a computer consultant. "My motivation was to go fishing and save money."
The rising cost of fueling his 24-foot Shamrock fishing boat had become a snag, and it didn't help that his main automobile for towing his boat was a gas-guzzling 1997 GMC Yukon.
Hansen did some research on alternative ways of powering vehicle engines and found hydrogen to be an often attempted but not so successful method.
That's when he started testing how hydrogen would work in his Yukon. After buying $600 worth of parts for engine modifications and a month's worth of time, he says the Yukon has gone from 8 miles per gallon in the city and 12.5 on the highway to about 18 in the city and 26 on the highway.
"Now, I don't pay $4 a gallon. I pay $2 a gallon," Hansen said. "I've got my big truck that I want to keep and I get the same mileage that you get with a Toyota Camry."
He said engines lose 30 to 40 percent of gasoline energy through exhaust, but the hydrogen supplement allows his engine to burn 100 percent of the gasoline.
Hansen added a device to the Yukon that creates hydrogen and combines it with the oxygen input to the engine, which helps the motor maximize gasoline performance. His system requires a small amount of distilled water to power the hydrogen generator and uses distilled vinegar to keep the generator's plates from corroding.
Additional gauges monitor the efficiency of the generator and help the system work well in Florida summer temperatures.
"The motor now runs cooler and with less carbon buildup, which ultimately will increase engine life," Hansen said. "The system has multiple built-in safeguards to make sure that the driver can operate the vehicle without concern."
Not everyone is sold on the idea.
Lev Gelb, an associate professor of chemistry at Washington University in St. Louis, who has worked for years on hydrogen storage, said he is skeptical of Hansen's claim.
"The energy in the battery also comes from the engine, so all of the energy actually comes from the gasoline," Gelb said.
"This approach can't work because everything is still limited by the car engine efficiency, so I think that his claim of nearly doubling the vehicle mileage is bogus."
Hansen said scientists' and car engineers' doubt is relevant but limited by what they have studied.
"The science is there, but there isn't a focus on existing vehicles," Hansen said. "Everyone looks at new vehicles to produce hydrogen."
Albert Rawlins, 75, who recently met Hansen while playing golf, said he is willing to try a hydrogen fuel system on his 1995 Chevrolet Impala, especially because he still sends gas money to two daughters living in Ohio.
"If you don't know computers, the best mechanic in the world can't do this," Rawlins said of his amazement of seeing Hansen's modified Yukon engine. "I told Dave, 'I'm willing to do this in order to make a statement' and the first thing I'm doing is taking a road trip to Ohio."
Even with regular compliments from people like Rawlins, Hansen said he still isn't sure he wants to pursue a patent and open a business. Instead, he has posted his findings on his Web site, htgsystems.com, and he will allow feedback to determine his next move.
"I'll let the public decide. I'm not doing this to make money. I just wanted to go fishing, and I thought it was a shame that nobody was doing anything about this."
Eddie R. Cole can be reached at ecole@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8779.
[Last modified: Jun 09, 2008 05:47 PM]
Comments on this article
by Laszlo
Jun 6, 2008 8:08 PM
Bravo Dave !
You reinvented the wheel!
Please check out the following website:http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watercar/
by Jeffrey
Jun 6, 2008 7:59 PM
Let,s do a test on a 5.5 HP lawn mower engine, I will donate 2 brand new engines for the test. This sounds a lot like water injection used on World War II aircraft.
by DIANA
Jun 6, 2008 7:56 PM
PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON THE OUTCOME OF THIS HOPEFUL NEWS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING BUT WOULD BE VERY HOPEFUL TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO GO IF IT WORKS. ALL ABOUT THE MONEY HAS TO STOP SOMEWHERE OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A COUNTRY.
by James
Jun 6, 2008 1:54 PM
This is way too expensive, many of us are doing this for $500 bucks or less, with similar results. Google Stan Meyer for the real pioneer...BTW, he was poisoned after refusing to sell his patents. Its very good that many are working to put Oil down!
by Bruce
Jun 5, 2008 9:04 PM
While based on sound science (H2 improves combustion efficiencies) the numbers don't stack up. It costs more energy to produce the H2 than is gained by the combustion improvements. Sorry, it's all placebo and wishful thinking.
by Erich
Jun 5, 2008 4:34 PM
I am willing to put this on my 1994 Lincoln and record the results for verification of the effectiveness of the unit and the mileage performance improvement.
by george
Jun 5, 2008 3:14 PM
you can say the same thing about gasoline when you drill, pump, refine,
transport and burn to move a vehicle.
Don't forget hydrogen has three times the btus of gasoline.
by neil
Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM
i would like more info on the unit
by Adrian
Jun 4, 2008 9:33 PM
Glad it works! Call GM, Toyota, Ford, Nissan, etc. Why bother selling kits for a few hundred bucks to weekend mechanics when the big auto companies will pay you billions in cash if the system works as advertised.
by Adrian
Jun 4, 2008 9:33 PM
And you might want to keep the details of how the system works a secret so that the auto engineers don't build their own hydrogen system and avoid paying you for the patent. You could lose billions of dollars!
by jim
Jun 4, 2008 5:24 PM
this works! my 1993 cadillac brougham with 350 v8 gets 26 to 28 mpg highway and minimum 20 to 22 mpg around here consistently.i built my system on my picnic table 1 year ago. no modification to the car whatsoever.
by Foster
Jun 4, 2008 2:33 PM
How did the writer miss a point? It's written clear the hydrogen helps the engine run cooler. Hansen is quoted: "The motor now runs cooler and with less carbon buildup, which ultimately will increase engine life." ...Anyway, bravo for trying.
by Adrian
Jun 4, 2008 1:59 PM
The cars' computers have been optimized at the factory by expert engineers. Better off to spend the money to improve exhaust & air intake flow, get low resistance tires and improve driving habits. If it worked, Dave would be billionaire already
by Dave
Jun 4, 2008 10:51 AM
The scientist is refering to the laws of thermodynamics, but has not considered the modifications to the cars computer in addition to the Hydrogen.
by Dave
Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM
The vinegar is used as a catyist to allow for electrolysis to produce the Hydrogen and also keeps the plates in the generator cleaner than other solutions used today.
by Dave
Jun 4, 2008 10:11 AM
The scientist is right, but the writer missed a crutial point. The Hydrogen allows the engine to run cooler, which lets me adjust the Air/Fuel mixture to a setting that would not be possible without the Hydrogen.
by John
Jun 4, 2008 10:10 AM
Too bad the gas companies will probably buy this idea and lock it away in a file cabinet somewhere.
by Adrian
Jun 4, 2008 10:04 AM
It does not work because the system violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics: the process of converting gasoline into electricity to extract hydrogen from water uses up more energy than it produces, therefore it cannot increase gas mileage.
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