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This spring, Wayne Croushorn and Stephen King sold modest-sized investment houses less than 2 miles apart in central St. Petersburg. Despite the proximity, though, you might as well be comparing housing markets in Alaska and Alabama.
Croushorn bought a 1,300-square-foot bungalow on 14th Street N in the Euclid-St. Paul neighborhood for $131,000 in 2004. He managed to sell it for $171,500 this April, a gain of 30 percent.
King wasn't so lucky. He snatched up a 900-square-foot concrete block house in June 2007 for the recorded price of $89,900 in southern St. Petersburg's Bartlett Park area. This spring he let it go for $77,000, a 14 percent price decline in less than a year.
"It was a house we probably shouldn't have bought," King said in hindsight.
In the prolonged housing slump, few neighborhoods in Pinellas County have been immune to falling prices and sales. Single-family home sales are off about 75 percent from their peak in late 2004, dragging overall prices down about 10 percent from their highs in 2005-2006.
But the pricing pain isn't shared evenly among the 186 neighborhoods surveyed by the St. Petersburg Times. An analysis of about 60,000 home sales between 2004 and 2008 — from Tierra Verde to Tarpon Springs — shows that some neighborhoods have sunk beneath the waves while others have trimmed sails and weathered the typhoon.
Low- to moderate-income places like Bartlett Park and Highland Oaks in St. Petersburg and southeast Clearwater recorded home price declines of about 40 percent from the peak.
But higher-than-average price declines are also the scourge of upper-income enclaves like Venetian Isles and Snell Isle, where the median home price has dropped from about $1-million to less than $600,000 this year.
A tiny handful of neighborhoods — Lake St. George in Palm Harbor and Historic Oldsmar, for example — have largely ducked housing depreciation. Another bunch have suffered only modest drops. Euclid-St. Paul, northwest of downtown St. Petersburg, shows a 4 percent dip.
"Price declines are haphazard. It depends on how desperately the seller wants to sell," Croushorn said.
A few words of caution: A small sample size can play havoc with median home prices. (The median price means half the homes sold for more and half sold for less.)
A few unexpected million-dollar sales can make it seem as if values have skyrocketed.
A spurt of foreclosures can make it seem that prices have slid off the face of the earth.
Take Snell Isle, one of St. Petersburg's oldest and most exclusive enclaves. At the sales peak in late 2004, 45 homes sold during a six-month period. But in the first half of 2008, only eight homes sold, at least a quarter of them foreclosures. Prices suffered accordingly.
In an area with favorable prices, Indian Rocks Beach, five of 16 sales in the first half of this year were in the million-dollar-plus category. Fewer such homes sold last year, which made this year look better than it was.
Fading of the flippers
Interviews with Realtors, investors and homeowners suggest that the biggest cause of larger-than-normal depreciation was rampant property flipping and mortgage fraud that artificially stoked prices in 2005. When the speculators went away, there was little to break the market's fall.
Many of the worst-hit neighborhoods are in southern St. Petersburg. The low cost of entry — old, small block and wood frame houses could be had for less than $50,000 — brought out the wolves.
"Wherever speculators were in big time, things are worse," said Palm Harbor real estate broker Nikki Ubaldini. "You had shacks that were bought and sold in some of these neighborhoods."
Jerry Sigler has seen the meltdown as a Realtor who specializes in selling foreclosure properties seized by the bank.
One of his latest cases is a 600-square-foot house built in 1925 in southern St. Petersburg's 13th Street Heights. It carries a $110,000 mortgage.
Sigler gave the beat-up house a once-over and broke the bad news to the bank: It's worth $35,000. That's all that the market, absent rampant speculation, can support.
"It looks like fraud. That house wasn't worth $110K to begin with," Sigler said.
The 13th Street Heights neighborhood doesn't make the list of the worst affected, highlighting the pitfalls of statistical analysis. In fact, it's one of the best performing areas for price among the 186 neighborhoods studied by the Times.
A closer look at individual sales clarifies things. Three of the 10 sales in the first six months of 2008 were new houses built by inner-city developer New Millennial Homes. They sold for $115,000 apiece, which acted like an updraft on median prices.
"When you don't have many sales, it's hard to get good data," said Millennial president Michael Shrenk, who admitted that he has had to lower prices across the board during the slump.
Only a 10 percent drop?
For its multiyear look at the housing market, the Times used closed sales recorded by the Pinellas County Property Appraiser's Office.
Pinellas, with its beachfront property and scarcity of new construction, hasn't suffered the price declines of Hillsborough, Pasco and Hernando counties.
Still, real estate experts suggest the pain is worse than the 10 percent declines offered up by the appraiser's office.
Stephen King, an investor who has bought and sold 300 to 400 homes in the past decade, says sales won't pick up without 20 to 30 percent price declines.
"The rise was totally artificial in many of these neighborhoods," King said. "The subsequent crash will be even more painful."
Measuring the fall
Not all Pinellas County neighborhoods are equally affected by price declines from the peaks in 2005-2006. By statistical measurements, some are even up a tad. Here are areas where prices have fallen the most and least through the first half of 2008.
Least
Palmetto Park, St. Petersburg
No change
Historic Oldsmar
No change
Ridgecrest, Largo
-1 percent
Indian Rocks Beach
-3 percent
Euclid-St. Paul
-4 percent
13th Street Heights, St. Petersburg
-6 percent
Tierra Verde
-8 percent
Most
Wildwood Heights, St. Petersburg
-63 percent
Cromwell Heights, St. Petersburg
-58 percent
Snell Isle
-46 percent
Highland Oaks, St. Petersburg
-42 percent
Old Southeast, St. Petersburg
-40 percent
Bartlett Park, St. Petersburg
-39 percent
Venetian Isles, St. Petersburg
-38 percent
[Last modified: Aug 27, 2008 01:57 PM]
Comments on this article
by Donna
Aug 27, 2008 1:57 PM
Funny Yacht Club Estates, which according to your gaphic is 40.9 to 67.8% off peak is not mentioned in your list of falling prices. It is part of St Petersburg. If I hear "million dollar homes" one more time I will scream.
by ctb
Aug 25, 2008 1:44 PM
FWIW, repeal of the Glass-Steagel(sp?) act had the most to do w/ this mess - & the funky inflated appraisals seem almost inevitable in the climate of greed that created.Thank the GOP & Phil Gramm!
by Jack Hudson
Aug 25, 2008 11:42 AM
It's called quality of life. Living in the banana republic of FloriDUH is the pits. You get what you pay for.
by Alex
Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Whoops
by jimmy
Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
When grocery prices or fuel prices go down, everybody in the media celebrates. Why should housing prices be different?
by Honor
Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Good work, DM. These are dumb folks and getting dumber.
by ctb
Aug 25, 2008 10:12 AM
Why not say it out loud: now we're seeing $$$ adjust back to the real value of these homes? The bubble has burst. You can call it a slump, but isn't it really a correction?
by Lin
Aug 25, 2008 10:12 AM
Location, size & condition are usually the factors that dictate what a home is worth.But when investors hoping to flip houses jumped into the mix it really created crazy market pricing.With tighter credit, fewer buyers makes location very important
by Prefer beauty
Aug 25, 2008 10:12 AM
Two thoughts: 1. Most "neighborhoods" and houses and businesses in St Pete are dumpy. 2. Real estate speculators are the reason the market rose and crached - they caused the problem.
by Allen
Aug 24, 2008 10:33 AM
Im not hating on Tierra Verde BUT there havent been enough transactions to reflect the real price degredation they have had. Check listing price cuts and days on market - look out below! As an out of town buyer when price is right - bargins abound
by DM
Aug 23, 2008 5:58 PM
Enough about affordable housing. It appears there is plenty of it. Now enough with the whining about not being able to buy a "dream house" when you are a twenty something couple or don't make much money.
by Happy Homeowner
Aug 23, 2008 12:07 PM
From last year to this year a 15% increase in Bartlett Park: http://www.bartlettpark.net/2008/06/bartlett-park-beacon-of-hope-in.html Check out the Property Appraisers map. Your example may be true but not representative of the whole neighborhood.
by Bob
Aug 23, 2008 12:07 PM
One wonders how the city of St. Petersburg can reflect a increase on the real estate tax trim notice inconjunction with pinellas couty real estate increae. How can the City &County Administrators say they must fine affordable housing, raising RE Tax.
by Bill
Aug 23, 2008 12:07 PM
We have our share of crokked flippers. They come in buy cheap and sell high. They do crappy work never pull permits and it seems the city looks the other way. Some move in and settle down only to rip off first time buyers into buying crappy fixer ups
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