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In Pasco, location key to amount of home value drop

By James Thorner and Matthew Waite, Times Staff Writers
In print: Sunday, August 24, 2008


[KERI WIGINTON l Times]
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In southwest Pasco County's Beacon Square community, the housing decline is reflected in the roster of recent home sellers dumping properties for as little as $50,000: NovaStar Mortgage, Wachovia Bank, Bank of New York.

In Wesley Chapel's Seven Oaks community, on the edge of the bustling New Tampa suburbs, new-home sales are helping prop prices above $350,000. Bank foreclosure sales are comparatively scarce on the ground.

Since the housing boom ended in 2006, home prices have plunged 45 percent in Beacon Square, but only 9 percent in Seven Oaks. Beacon Square is the most depreciated community in Pasco County. Seven Oaks is the least.

"In central Pasco, you don't have as many people who bought investment properties. In west Pasco, there were an enormous number of people caught holding two houses when the housing downturn arrived,'' said Greg Armstrong, owner of Coldwell Banker F.I. Grey Residential and president of the West Pasco Board of Realtors.

In an analysis of 44,000 homes sales in 35 communities since 2005, not one area in Pasco escaped falling prices. From the peak in the first half of 2006 to the first half of 2008, prices fell off 34 percent across the board. Home sales were down 74 percent from the height of the boom. But not all neighborhoods took an equal beating.

The St. Petersburg Times discovered a gulf dividing west Pasco from east-central Pasco when it comes to housing sales prices. West Pasco communities fill the Top 10 list of the most-depreciated areas. Think Hudson, Holiday, Gulf Harbors and Shady Hills. East-central Pasco dominates the list of the least-depreciated areas. Think Zephyrhills, Dade City, Land O'Lakes and Quail Hollow.

Armstrong is unsurprised. Until 2006, he watched the Pasco coastal communities fall into the grip of a real estate fever.

As during the dot-com stock hunger of the 1990s, people borrowed against their houses to scoop up sure-thing investments. The older houses that cluster on both sides of U.S. 19 in west Pasco, many built cheaply for retirees in the 1960s and 1970s, became the main investment vehicles.

Take Holiday. Energized by furious flipping, the median home sales price peaked at $130,000 in early 2006. By the first half of this year, the median price had hunkered down at $75,000. That's a drop of 42 percent, one of the county's worst.

"It became investor heaven. Now it's turned into investor hell," Armstrong said. "People didn't want to be left out, but they got burned instead."

Central Pasco communities where investors ran rampant aren't exactly thriving, either. Meadow Pointe is a case in point. An island unto itself in the suburbs north of Tampa, Meadow Pointe has seen prices recede 32 percent. Even Land O'Lakes, nowhere near the worst afflicted, has seen home prices plunge by nearly a quarter.

Nearby Seven Oaks, off State Road 56, avoided much of Meadow Pointe's pain. Fewer entry-level homes there meant fewer fickle investors ready to bail at the first flicker of market trouble. Pricey sales of large homes have masked the handful of foreclosure sales.

"Most of our builders were good about not taking anybody who came along," said Terry McGinnis, marketing director for Seven Oaks developer Crown Community Development. "Everyone's gone down, but I think it's good that you can kind of hold your own.''

For those keen to wade into the west Pasco real estate morass, deals abound. In Beacon Square, Oldsmar investors Michael and Evelyn Otto recently snagged a 1,152-square-foot, 40-year-old house for $59,000 from Wachovia Bank. This in a community where a typical house sold for $133,400 just two years ago.

Michael Otto blames banks for the state of affairs. They should either have held the distressed properties, he said, or else helped owners avoid foreclosure. Huge property insurance premium hikes along the hurricane-prone coast didn't help the market either.

"They're selling the houses for $50,000, $60,000 or $70,000," Otto said. "We think they will go up in value. You just have to wait."


Top 10 least-affected areas
for home price declines
1. Seven Oaks -9 percent
2. Zephyrhills -16 percent
3. Dade City -18 percent
4. Moon Lake -19 percent
5. Trinity -19 percent
6. Odessa -22 percent
7. Dade City North -23 percent
8. Land O'Lakes -24 percent
9. Quail Hollow -24 percent
10. Tampa Bay Golf &Country Club -24 percent
Top 10 worst areas
for home price declines
1. Beacon Square -45 percent
2. Port Richey -45 percent
3. Golden Acres -43 percent
4. Holiday -42 percent
5. Shady Hills -38 percent
6. Seven Springs -35 percent
7. Elfers -35 percent
8. Gulf Harbors -35 percent
9. Jasmine Estates/Embassy Hills -34 percent
10. Hudson -33 percent





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Comments on this article
by pjgatorjg Aug 28, 2008 4:04 PM
lived in holiday for 16yrs---big problem is code enforcement, they will not come out unless u call them &give ur name,also beacon square civic assoc. does nothing to help the community-there just interested in their bingo and pool/
by Jeanne Aug 28, 2008 11:40 AM
I own homes in Holiday in Beacon Sq. They are well maintained. The houses are block not BOXES and they are sturdy. The values will go back up. They went up 25-30% in a few months which is too quickly and they were bound to readjust. SHAME ON CAROL
by Dave Aug 27, 2008 1:42 PM
With first hand knowledge I can state the report has it backwards. I know for a fact more homes in the LOL area were purchased by investors and a ton are in forceclosure. Waterfront's ONLY sales were a small # of forc's. who writes this garbage?
by Casey Aug 27, 2008 1:20 PM
As someone who does not live in the Tampa Bay area but works in Pasco/Pinellas/Hillsborough half of each month - the lower declines are in towns removed from Tampa with residents of insular towns more in line with those in Sumter Co. and surrounding rural towns (Zephyrhills / Dade City area) and the values stayed approximate to that. Trinity, Land O'Lakes, Odessa are now the northern suburbs of Tampa proper and all easily accessible to Dale Mabry, Florida, and the Veterans right on the Hillsborough County line. The McMansions and dense suburbs built there will ensure their value as suburbs. West Pasco on the other hand up and down US 19 is a longer commute into Tampa and relies on Pinellas for work. Pinellas / Hillsborough, meet the hourly employees at your stores and independent contractors for services. The area was built up for winter retirees and now mixed with those who couldn't afford housing in Pinellas but wanted to live on the Gulf. There are some nice
by Chloe Aug 27, 2008 1:06 PM
Mausoleums - the wannabes bought them, can't afford them, some lied on their applications. No sympathy. Sorry.
by fg Aug 27, 2008 12:57 PM
what are they talking about builders were carefull who bought, bull, smith family homes was the worst builder in tampa and took anyone who walked off the street! now they went bankrupt!
by Mark Aug 27, 2008 12:54 PM
I am a homeowner and proud of my place. Our trailer parks represent a big part of our ecomomy if the Yanks don't come business is flat. All summer we starve. You invest in more homes than you live in its your risk. The blame is banking and appraisals
by teri Aug 26, 2008 4:23 PM
can't understand how or why waterfront property as gulf harbors which is right on the gulf depreciated. Insurance is high but location is prime real estate.
by Jude Aug 26, 2008 12:00 PM
Been to association meetings. No money for legal help. Go to Code Enforcement. County should enforce their laws.
by Mike S. Aug 26, 2008 12:00 PM
I do own my own home in St. Pete. I bought it for 39900 (1999), taxable value is around same (Save our Homes cap), but value has jumped past 200k. I'm not going to sell till the flippers are themselves bankrupt. Tough luck to you folks.
by Mike S. Aug 26, 2008 11:59 AM
First off, Pasco has always been the laughingstock of the tricounty area. I've lived here my whole life and remember Pasco as nothing more than mobile homes 20 years ago, especially NPR. Quality hasn't changed much since the last I drove through.
by xoxox Aug 26, 2008 11:13 AM
Blame....Blame.... Blame
by fj Aug 25, 2008 7:30 PM
all of these houses are made out of "Glued together cardboard boxes anyway!! who cares!!
by Bell Aug 25, 2008 1:45 PM
You come across as very snooty Carol. I live in Golden Acres and I LOVE my home!!! We live on an acre and ? and love our neighbors. I would never want to live in a new subdivision where the houses are inches away from each other?
by John Aug 25, 2008 1:45 PM
I live in Holiday, i do my best to keep my house up as it is an investment but also where i live. The downturn started when the investors bought the houses and either flipped them or leased them, with the occupants not keeping up the property.
by Noah Aug 25, 2008 1:26 PM
Beacon Square (is in W.Cent, not S.Cent) is volatile due to the nature of the community. It has an exceptionally high rate of sinkhole claims. It's HOA that is restrictive to the point of abuse. It is child-Unfriendly and not suited for many. NV
by Jen Aug 25, 2008 11:41 AM
I've lived in NPR for 9 years and love it. Our neighbors are great, of course there are problems with any area. Being from NJ originally, I first lived in Palm Harbor. I can't imagine why the Pinellas crowd is so proud of their overpriced/taxed NJ.
by ed Aug 25, 2008 11:31 AM
i must say that most of us did this to ourselves....lets not blame lets fix the problem with ugly houses....i have seen yards that have not been mowed for months...the city should do something about this...we had one in our neiborhood i just mowed it
by Jude Aug 25, 2008 11:31 AM
Hurricane- proof storage units, honey.
by Lois Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
All I can say is that investors always ruin everything.
by Thomas Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Um Dick, those are not the reasons. Please stop spouting lies to make yourself look "smart".
by Eric Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Storage units? Thats a big strong. At one time, these were the homes that "rich people'' in west pasco lived in. There's nothing wrong with these houses, but nothing you can do about 8 foot ceilings and old designs. They'll be classics in 50 years.
by Denise Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
This to Carol, I don't know where you live,but some people can't afford more than an embassy house etc. and besides that, some of those houses are beautiful.If you can afford more than that then good for you,don't down the ones who can't!!!!!!!!!!
by Barbara Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Good story. Civic associations and Code Enforcement don't buy or sell houses. Bankers gavae mortages like they were dishing out icecream while buyers wanted to turn quick profits by flipping. Sellers wanted to max out their profits in a hot market.
by ylpatriot Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Indeed, thanks to lack of code enforment...my area regency park is truly suffering ....Overgrown yards, boats, utility trailer,broken down cars and just lack pride, and of course no code enforcment....continues to bring this area down ... sad
by George Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Carol, You are right. Those areas just went way over what they were worth. Dick, you are dead wrong. If anything a Civic Association or HOA made more problems for people. Same with the county. Greedy speculators and bad lending practices.
by nick Aug 25, 2008 10:14 AM
Yes the loans may be to blame, but living in holiday myself, I think some of my neighbors are to blame being lazy and making their property look like crap!! My neighbor has a pile of trash at the end of his driveway for day's now . Dick you are right
by Honor Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
The other day at a local coffee shop, there was a mother who actually shared that her children (one at Countryside HS and the other at Safety Harbor Elem)live with her in New Port Richey but she uses her ex's address in Safety Harbor. Common.
by Homeowner78 Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Just wanted to add that I've been here 14 years and my home's value on the market is almost back down to what I paid for it. A home is an investment, but too many treated it like a bank account. Paid off credit cards, bought new cars, etc. Sad.
by Homeowner78 Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Admittedly, homeowner involvement with civic associations contributes along with code enforcement. Reality is foreclosures have been dumped into the market. Banks are trying to unload and the neighborhood takes a hit.
by FAy Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Pasco's roads are horrible!! Who would want to live there? Low bid asphalt...
by Offended Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Carol, how dare you call MY home a "glorified storage unit". I am a hard working middle class parent and I'm proud of my home and proud to display it to friends and family!
by Dick Aug 25, 2008 10:13 AM
You've solved the problem. Just enforce the HOA and Code enforcement and the housing crisis is over. Idiot
by Dick Aug 24, 2008 10:33 AM
Failure to get involved in the Civic Association and being ignored by County Code Enforcement are the main reasons for the decline of the area.
by CAROL Aug 24, 2008 10:24 AM
I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE THINK THESE OLDER DEVELOPMENTS ARE WORTH ANYTHING .MOST OF THOSE HOMES IN G .HIGHLANDS ,BEACON SQUARE ,EMBASSY ,ECT .ARE NOTHING MORE THAN GLORIFIED STORAGE UNITS........
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