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There's little wiggle room in judge's stance on baggy pants

By Colleen Jenkins, Times Staff Writer
In print: Friday, September 12, 2008


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TAMPA — A day after Hillsborough's jails chief vowed to rid courtrooms of sagging pants and exposed underwear, an inmate arrived in Circuit Judge Daniel Perry's courtroom letting it all hang out.

The judge's response?

He ordered the 39 inmates on his docket Thursday morning back to jail so the trim man in the size 5X pants could get a pair that fit. And for the second day in a row, the judge delayed his start time by more than an hour.

The one-two punch — Perry returned 61 inmates to jail for a few sagging britches on Wednesday — prompted a terse reply from law enforcement officials.

"The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office is well aware of the recent situation regarding inmates and ill-fitting jail uniforms being worn in court," the agency's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said in a prepared statement. "Judges require and deserve courtroom decorum both in demeanor and appearance, and that also applies to inmates appearing before them.

"Sheriff David Gee has ordered the situation with jail uniforms to be rectified today, and all inmates will be issued the proper sized clothing to wear in court settings."

Perry's actions drew mostly praise, with one person commenting on the story at tampabay.com, "there is a reason they call it 'UNDERWEAR.' "

Judge Vivian Corvo issued a similar mandate, telling defendants on Thursday that she wouldn't hear their cases if she could see their underwear.

Law enforcement officials in neighboring counties said they haven't heard similar complaints from judges, and they credited vigilance in making sure inmates are properly dressed.

"We don't give a prisoner that weighs 150 pounds a 3X so that he thinks he's in the hood," said Capt. Ed Beckman, who oversees jail operations in Pasco County. "It starts with the deputy. They're the front line."

Detention officials are "very mindful in ensuring that they dress appropriately not only when they're in the complex but when they go to court as well," said Pinellas sheriff's spokeswoman Cecilia Barreda. "There aren't any major issues with it."

Fellow judges sympathized with Perry's frustration, if quietly not all agreed with his approach. Signs outside Hillsborough courtrooms tell people that shorts, tank tops and gum are not allowed, but judges say they see way too many exposed bottoms, bellies and breasts.

"I tell every inmate that's showing his butt that it's inappropriate and offensive," said Hillsborough Circuit Judge Robert Foster. "They can call it a fashion statement. Let them go try it in front of the Supreme Court of America."

School officials have been cracking down on baggy, bottom-bearing britches for years. More recently, government leaders have joined the fight, with laws against public underwear exposure enacted from Baldwin to Opa-locka. Advocates of the bans talk about decency and moral decay; opponents say they are a waste of time and possibly civil liberties violations.

When Circuit Judge Lynn Tepper handled criminal cases in Pasco County, she warned people who came to court in revealing clothing to clean it up. But she said she saw more improvement when she complimented those who put effort into their attire.

Tracee Lawson designs hip-hop inspired pants that create the peek-a-boo boxer effect without revealing a man's actual boxers. The Tampa businesswoman thinks it's a bit hypocritical for criminal justice officials to take inmates to task for a look that began because belts were kept out of prisons as a safety precaution.

But she concedes that the trend is not fit for every circumstance.

"I'm not going to wear a sweat suit on an interview," she said.

One of Perry's fellow judges sent an e-mail to colleagues Thursday about an upcoming committee meeting. It included this line:

"Proper Attire Required."

Colleen Jenkins can be reached at cjenkins@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3337.


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Comments on this article
by richard Sep 18, 2008 7:32 AM
Susan and Vicki respect is not atomatically given it is earned,nomatter who you are.The system is nothing more than human hearding.People suppose tobe innocent till proven guilty but it`s the reverse.So why should anyone respect Judge LAZY PERRY!
by richard Sep 18, 2008 7:32 AM
Are we so petty that we are worried about the way someone dresses these days.Judge Perry was just to lazy to deal with his duties for the day.Why should he put off so many courtcases.So what did he do the rest of his day.Judge you are not God.
by Susan Sep 15, 2008 3:35 PM
Judge Perry is very fair and just man. He is trying to instill respect into persons that have never respected anything in their lives. If these people do not learn respect from someone they will spend their entire lives behide bars. Go Perry!!
by Candi Sep 15, 2008 2:37 PM
Are law in Michigan is that they get a big fine if cought walking in public like this. Also can't dress this way in are school's, there thrown out if there pant's are hanging down. This law was just passed this summer.
by Candi Sep 15, 2008 2:37 PM
By the message's left I guess were talking about the jail attire. Who see's these inmate's? The jail employ's? I thought it was an issue with the teenager's in public, not jail. Comment left saying made of wool, that's a bit much. Shame on you
by Candi Sep 15, 2008 2:37 PM
Florida is upset over seeing a inch or two of under wear. What about the thong's on your beach's and strip? What disgusting is seeing a guy 70 year old in a thong or a woman 300 pound's in a two peice bathing suit I have seen both. Thats disgusting
by Vicky Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM
Judge Perry Way to go! The inmates need to be taught respect! Keep it up!
by Susan Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM
Inmates are allowed to arrive at court unshaven, unwashed (the worst you have ever smelled), teeth unbrushed w/breath that curls your nose hair. Why would HCSO care if the clothes do not fit when most look like homeless men. Seen & smelled 1St hand.
by Susan Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM
I have worked in the court room with both Judges named in this artical. This has been a unresolved problem for years. These people have no respect for the system or the judge they are in front of. Boy how times have changed.
by Pasco Mom wears what she wants Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM
I agree that appropriate attire in court is a wise thing. I do NOT agree with some comments here about attire worn in public. Stop freaking judging people for their looks! I know lots of GREAT people who dress in ways I would not. Look deeper!
by Ann Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM
How hard is it to measure an inmate's waist and inseam? All men's clothing is sold by those two measurements! Deputies and their supervisors are responsible for this situation! They wouldn't wear uniforms that sagged, would they?
by pull your pants up Sep 15, 2008 2:32 PM
Mackpod,the judge might be overweight, but guess what?his underwear isn't showing. Everyone should listen to the song "Pull your Pants Up"it is played on WRXB.Men/women need to show respect to others and themselves. We don't want to see your drawers.
by stired of letting things slip Sep 12, 2008 5:35 PM
Inmates request the size pants they want and the ingnorant deputy assigning the uniform gives tham what they ask for. Shame on the deputy! Inmates should all have to wear jumpsuits (no sag) made of wool, make them uncomfortable! Good for you Judge!
by Mike Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
Proper attire required. The school districts should make that dress code. Better yet make it a state law. Just like California.
by joanne Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
good work judges. there not in the hood there in a court room which is a place of honor. they can't go for a job like that because they will surely not be picked.maybe they should add some time to there sentence for showing there underwear.
by Issywise Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
So the wheels of justice grind to a stop over this idiot judge's sartorial tastes? He should be investigated by whatever authority supervises judges for behavior that is demeaning to the administration of justice and just plain gormless.
by coop Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
i dont like judges or the system much but i hate the mindless twits in the sagging pants even more so good for the judge.grow up people and join the human race
by MikesDomain Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
I agree 100% in Judge Perry's decision Re;Proper attire in his courtroom; If I were doing an interview & the client came into my office dress in baggy pants, I would immediately dismiss that person from my office!!
by Kay Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
I'm glad the judge is shaking things up. Perhaps it is not the inmates fault, but this should put an end to the sheriff not providing proper clothes sizes.
by Pete Sep 12, 2008 1:32 PM
Let's be realistic here.Underwear should not be seen in court or anywhere else in public.It's meant to cover unsightly body parts from view.I do not want to see your underwear.And in court,proper dress IS required.That means pants that fit.
by ralph Sep 12, 2008 1:31 PM
My respect certainly was suddenly strengthened by the actions of this judge. All too often we see people even in public going to extremes on clothing and mannerisms. It is time we got back to being normal again. My thanks to the judges of today.
by Mackpod Sep 12, 2008 1:31 PM
The judge needs to go on a diet..he's 75 pounds overweigh...lets look prsentable on the bench!
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