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Mandatory retirement is forcing out Florida judges

By Colleen Jenkins, Times Staff Writer
In print: Monday, September 22, 2008


Circuit Judge J. Rogers Padgett, 70, will retire at the end of the year, after 34 years on the bench. Padgett is being forced to retire because of age limitations for judges in Florida.
Circuit Judge J. Rogers Padgett, 70, will retire at the end of the year, after 34 years on the bench. Padgett is being forced to retire because of age limitations for judges in Florida.
[DANIEL WALLACE | Times]
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TAMPA — When judges in Hillsborough have questions about judging, they are as likely to seek guidance from Circuit Judge J. Rogers Padgett as a law book.

Padgett, the county's longest sitting jurist, has served 34 years on the bench and presided over an estimated 900 jury trials. But come January, courthouses around the area will lose decades' worth of that institutional wisdom when he and other veteran robed colleagues are forced into mandatory retirement.

John McCain can run for president at 72, but judges in Florida have to give up their offices when they hit 70. Jokingly referred to as "constitutional senility," the requirement doesn't always sit well with the nimble-minded elders.

"I'm really not ready to go," said Hillsborough Circuit Judge Frank Gomez, another outgoing judge.

Also departing are Judges Marion Fleming in Pinellas and Wayne Cobb in Pasco, that county's most veteran judge with 31 years on the circuit bench. Florida Supreme Court Justices Harry Anstead and Charles Wells face mandatory retirement next year.

State judges aren't alone. Federal law protects most workers from being ousted due to age, but exceptions are made for airline pilots and people in public safety jobs. Some corporate executives and board members, including those at the St. Petersburg Times, are expected to retire at 65.

Florida adopted its retire-at-70 provision in 1972, when the average life expectancy was 70.8 years. Though people can expect to live for 77.8 years as of 2005, the mandatory retirement age for judges hasn't budged.

Legislators who wanted to get more black and female judges on the bench batted down a recommendation in the mid 1990s to either remove the requirement or raise the age limit, said Dexter Douglass, a Tallahassee lawyer and constitutional expert who served on the task force that reviewed the part of the Constitution that deals with the judiciary.

The idea got tossed around again but never gained traction during the Constitution Revision Commission that Douglass chaired in 1997.

He remains in favor of no mandatory retirement age, preferring instead a system by which the Judicial Qualifications Commission would conduct a review of older judges whose abilities are called into question.

"You've got to find when somebody really flunks out that they don't stick around like they do in the federal court sometime," Douglass said. Federal judges are allowed to serve for life.

Judges may fill in after they retire

Already, there is a process in place for judges who apply to serve in a senior capacity after their retirement. Applicants older than 70 are reviewed annually to determine whether they are still fit to serve.

Judge Chris Altenbernd, who sits on the 2nd District Court of Appeal and oversees the committee that serves Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties, says the current rule allows good judges to continue serving in a limited capacity and helps avoid the awkward situation of involuntary removal.

"It prevents us from having to deal with people who become senile or have other problems and the great difficulty of having to go up to them and say, 'it's just time to quit,' " he said. "That's a very difficult thing to do."

But allowing judges older than 70 to serve at all undermines the rationale behind the "arbitrary" mandatory retirement age, said Larry Polivka, associate director of the School of Aging Studies at the University of South Florida.

In certain fields, people get better with age, he said. He cites U.S. Supreme Court justices who have had the most productive periods in their careers after 70. One of Polivka's favorite jazz musicians, Hank Jones, is performing at his peak at 90.

"It's an antiquated notion, and it's unfortunate that it's embedded still in a few places," Polivka said. "There's no justification for it."

Judges Gomez and Fleming haven't turned 70 yet. Florida judges can finish a term as long as it is halfway over before they reach 70. But both would have become septuagenarians before the midpoint of their terms, meaning the governor would appoint a replacement.

If they had run for their seats and lost, they would have been ineligible to serve as senior judges, who fill in for sitting judges when they are ill or at conferences. Both opted to call it quits instead.

The retiring judges seem resigned, if not enthused, about their fate. They plan to apply to serve as senior judges, though squeezed budgets have cut back the funding for those positions.

Disinclined to sit at home, Padgett, who enjoys traveling to far-flung places like Malta, Gibraltar and the Panama Canal, is considering going abroad to teach English.

Others take a more critical view of the brain drain.

"It's just a waste of talent," said Brandon attorney Robert Fraser.

Times researcher John Martin contributed to this story. Colleen Jenkins can be reached at cjenkins@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3337.


. fast facts

How Florida compares

Some states have no mandatory retirement age for judges. Vermont allows judges to serve until age 90. A majority of states, including Florida, require judges to retire between ages 70 and 75.

Source: National Center for State Courts



Retiring judges

Florida requires judges to retire between ages 70 and 75. A few who will have to step down within the next year:


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Comments on this article
by Gilbert Sep 23, 2008 5:44 PM
Should the judges desire to continue to be active, I hope that they would consider joining a University as a Law Mentor. That sure would help with some of the ethical dilemnas young incompetent attorneys and perhaps future judges may face!
by Celebration Sep 23, 2008 9:45 AM
I may not agree with the rule, but Maroin Fleming is a terrible judge - good bye... At least her replacement (Handsel) will be fair both to Defense and Prosecution.
by Mick Sep 23, 2008 9:45 AM
It is a shame to see judges with this type of experienced forced out when you still see judges like Judge Raymond Gross of the Pinellas County Circuit Court, still sitting on the bench.
by Elaine Sep 22, 2008 5:47 PM
Harold the article said jury trials not total number of cases. By your math the judge is right on schedule. Jury trials take about a week from start to finish. You should look at the non jury cases load. There is some math for you.
by Allen Sep 22, 2008 5:45 PM
Maybe be bad for him - But get out of the way, make room for younger folk to move up the food chain. Let others live their dreams and start their careers.
by Disgusted w Florida Sep 22, 2008 4:01 PM
If this judge is good we need to keep him on the bench! I am sure that there are some judges who are at the 40 ish age should be retired for failing to be honest! What the hel is wrong with this state? Oh I forgot, its florida we are talking about!
by Allison Sep 22, 2008 4:00 PM
Harold - there is MUCH more to a judge's job than merely presiding over trials. You clearly have no idea what the job demands. Educate yourself before you call it cushy.
by Jim Sep 22, 2008 2:20 PM
Oh how I wish that this could happen in the UK and let us get rid of some of the countries highest paid senile pensioners, they are so out of touch with reality it is a joke,but a fat pay cheque could have something to do with it criminal 1 victim 0
by Dan Sep 22, 2008 1:51 PM
I agree with the Boo Hoo, who cares comment. Move on judges. You lived well. Let someone else try.
by Jimmy Sep 22, 2008 1:42 PM
This is a great law and should be kept. If you are past 70 and still want to work then you must have a very cushie job. It is time leave and make room for the next generation. The younger people have families to support.
by joetampa Sep 22, 2008 1:37 PM
Poor judges! They already have better benefits than anyone in the world; they want to keep building on their career?
by john Sep 22, 2008 11:29 AM
why work at 70? maybe they are on the gravytrain. they need to go give someone a job, they must not have a life.
by James Sep 22, 2008 11:28 AM
Many judges approaching retirement, simply become unproductive and stop scheduling trials & hearings, well in advance. Being a judge is very demanding and you want the decision maker to have a stake in his/her rulings-as one ages this doesn't occur!
by Jimmy Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
Why would they want to retire? How many of them are DOUBLE DIPPERS? Let's see a list from the Times.
by Joseph Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
The sooner, that we can get rid of these liberal socialist judges, the better off we all will be. Then maybe we can vote for something that protects our property rights and reduces our tax burden to local govn't.like the one in Leon County, J. Cooper
by Larry Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
To bad this law cannot affect the local, state, federal government employees and lawmakers. It a good law.
by Joe Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
The retirement age for Judges should be 65 yrs of age. It is a good time for change.
by Harold Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
Using the estimate of 900 trial cases over a 34 year period means an average of 26.47 cases per year or one (1) every 2 weeks for judge Padgett. Not a bad work schedule.
by Kim Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
Bye!
by Dr_Dug Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
Boo Hoo...who cares..
by Candi Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
Well I agree that people that have been on a job for over 30 year's need's to retire and let the younger person have a job. They have familes to feed. If your 70 or 75 it's time to retire. If you don't have enough $$ by that age something is wrong.
by Bill Sep 22, 2008 10:08 AM
As a LEO in Hillsborough County I have had the honor to witness Judge Padgett in person. The man is one of a kind and will be missed.
by PASCO PETE Sep 22, 2008 9:56 AM
What a shame I don't know Judge Padgett but with all his experiance we will suffer a great loss time to change that law. OUR NEXT PRESIDENT MAY BE 72 YRS. OLD!!
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