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Seminole Tribe shields against releasing records in Hardrock death
By
Colleen Jenkins, Times Staff Writer
In print: Monday, November 10, 2008
Sisters Bridgette, left, and Rhonda Jackson stand in the front garden of their mother’s home in Ybor City, Tampa. Bridgette is holding paperwork the sisters have collected for their case.
TAMPA — Inside the white tower just off Interstate 4, Annie Talley had the Midas touch.
A frequent visitor to the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, she sipped sodas and watched single bills become hundreds as she played the Triple Butterfly Sevens and Money Storm slots. Careful not to risk too much, the school cook always cashed out after a big take.
But on a Wednesday night in May 2007, she never made it to the cashier. While the casino buzzed with patrons hoping to win a luxury car giveaway, 55-year-old Talley wobbled into a bathroom and collapsed on the stone floor from a cardiac arrest. Two days later, she died at a nearby hospital.
Convinced that the casino staff didn't do enough to save their mother, Talley's daughters have spent months fighting for reports that might tell them how quickly 911 was called and when CPR began.
Their efforts have been stymied by the Seminole Tribe of Florida's sovereign immunity, a doctrine that shields the tribe from lawsuits, building codes and public records requests — pretty much any laws that aren't its own. It is the same principle the tribe invoked last year to keep reports and 911 tapes related to Playboy model Anna Nicole Smith's death from public view. Smith died at the Hard Rock property in Hollywood.
Rhonda Jackson, Talley's elder daughter, can't believe the tribe is allowed that much power.
"These people are untouchable," she said.
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And rich. Last year, Indian gaming facilities in Florida generated about $1.6-billion in revenue. The Seminole Tribe owns seven of the eight Indian casinos in the state.
Some of that money makes its way to patrons who the tribe decides were injured as the result of negligence on tribal property.
But the tribe doesn't waive immunity even in those cases. Instead, through an insurance company, it voluntarily settles claims that would otherwise be thrown out in a federal or state court. The concessions are part goodwill, part savvy business practice.
"It's more than just an issue of legal liability," said Gary Bitner, spokesman for the Seminole Tribe of Florida. "It's based on the value of the relationships with its customers and knowing how important that is. It's the tribe's intent to be a good neighbor and fair and to deal appropriately with all the customers who come in."
Tampa attorney Jeffrey "Jack" Gordon has brought about a dozen lawsuits against the Seminole Tribe and has gotten settlements in all but two. He said the tribe's insurance adjusters and attorneys usually "do the right thing" for claims where the tribe has clear liability.
But the attorney maintains that casino patrons still have no real recourse under a system that does not provide an independent body, like a jury, to make those calls.
"You're allowing the tribe to self-regulate and decide whether or not they deem a claim worthy," Gordon said. "The same guys that I'm accusing of wrongdoing, they're going to make the decision of whether there's wrongdoing? That's not fair."
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Talley's daughters dispute the Hillsborough County Fire Rescue report that says the casino's first responders performed CPR for eight to 10 minutes before the county emergency workers arrived. Bridgette Jackson, who accompanied her mother to the casino that night, said the first responders ignored her pleas for them to perform CPR and never used the defibrillator they had with them to try and shock Talley's heart back into rhythm.
The tribe refuses to provide them with its own record of the incident. Bitner wouldn't provide the documents to the St. Petersburg Times either, but said the casino's first responders called 911 immediately after being notified about Talley's condition and began CPR soon after getting to the bathroom. He said Talley deteriorated quickly and that Jackson was asked to leave the bathroom to give the workers more space.
Tribe officials said they denied the insurance claim filed by Talley's family after a thorough investigation — which included interviews with the first responders but not Bridgette Jackson — and without regard to the tribe's immunity from legal action.
"Our point of view is that what needed to be done was done," Bitner said.
The family's former attorney sees things differently but said there was nothing more he could do on the case. He needs an act of Congress or an express waiver of immunity from tribe officials to keep a lawsuit from getting thrown out.
"Technically there are options, but in reality there are no options," said attorney Doug Morris, whose firm is in Boca Raton.
Gordon, the Tampa attorney, is trying a new legal strategy. Last week, he sued the Seminole Tribe for negligence on behalf of Christopher Robertson, who claims the Tampa casino staff provided inadequate security and never came to his rescue as he was beaten and knocked unconscious in February 2007.
In the lawsuit, Gordon cites the casino gambling compact forged last year between the tribe and Gov. Charlie Crist, in which the tribe agreed to a limited waiver of its immunity protection against personal injury lawsuits. Though the compact is in dispute after the Florida Supreme Court ruled that Crist overstepped his authority by unilaterally entering into it, Gordon argues that the immunity waiver still stands.
"Once you waive it, it's waived," he said. "We'll see how it plays out."
Critics like Gordon hope that at some point, there is wide enough concern in the public over the tribe's sovereign status that federal elected leaders are forced to act.
Until then, Talley's daughters say they will keep seeking answers for the woman they remember for her savory yellow rice and chicken, for the way she sprayed on several designer perfumes at once, for her devotion to her family. The woman who visited the doctor for a physical two weeks before she died, and was told that she had a good heart.
Colleen Jenkins can be reached at cjenkins@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3337.
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Comments on this article
by sam
Nov 15, 2008 11:24 PM
right the woman died of natural causes nothing to do with the casino if she died at mcdonalds or disny world they would be looking for free money there too. but if she died at home no jackpot for the daughters give it a rest.
by sam
Nov 15, 2008 11:15 PM
you guy are a bunch of idiots the tribe does provide excellent security and emts they are ex tampa, new york, los angeles police and firefighters so now the family should sue the bathroom attendant the security the casino everybody involved yeah
by Mom
Nov 12, 2008 5:39 PM
Ask the parents of Brian Osorio and Mark Grosso how they were treated by the tribe when they wanted answers about their son's death. Both men in their 30's died at Hard Rock. One bled to death and one robbed and murdered.
by Gator
Nov 12, 2008 5:38 PM
Where did you get your medical degree Missy? They don't want money. They want answers!!! We'll never know if a faster response would have saved this woman because the Seminoles are hiding the truth. That's evil. I bet their "ancestors" would be proud
by missy
Nov 11, 2008 7:03 PM
seems pretty obvious to me they are just after money. the casino did not kill their mom, she did not slip and fall on their property, she died of natural causes but happened to be there instead of at home. no reason to sue the casino or tribe
by neighbor
Nov 11, 2008 6:43 PM
self in there shoes, Ms. Talley was young, and I am for sure she took greatpride in her health in order for the Dr to tell her that she has a clean bill of health...this is not a black or white thing this is justice needing to justified
by neighbor
Nov 11, 2008 2:23 PM
go out and visit, had the family knew there were so many STOP SIGNS in the way, they would have went, but a life had to be taken for this to be in the NEWS and there need to be change wheater you agree with what the family is foing or not, out your
by neighbor
Nov 11, 2008 2:23 PM
CPR on their mother, when you have an EYE WITNESS there in the view of the lost of her mother, this is the UNITED STATES, so treat it like the US and see, this legal matter as a way to change the laws that are govern by the TRIBE that so many people
by neighbor
Nov 11, 2008 2:23 PM
people be realistic, this was a woman who love her childrend and let a lone the world, find out details before so many rud comments towards the Talley family, the process of suing is always montery, so why can't they sue the Tribe for not performing
by jan
Nov 11, 2008 2:20 PM
I am sorry for the untimely death of this woman. Why is a heart attack the casino's fault - are they supposed to have hospital grade emergency help? Drs will tell you CPR generally does not "save" people - keeps them going til they get 2 the hospital
by Rich
Nov 11, 2008 2:20 PM
"ME"- Way to go- you solved the whole problem and didn't burn up one brain cell.
by Me
Nov 11, 2008 1:35 PM
good for the tribe... matter of fact, everyone who is not a direct descendent of a Native American, go home to Europe, Asia, Africa.. or where ever you come from!!!
by Wolf
Nov 11, 2008 1:32 PM
Seminole "Tribe" = Mafia. Simple enough.
by Richard
Nov 11, 2008 1:23 PM
I agree with Sal- just don't go there. I don't patronize any Seminole business, and never will until they are forced to come out of the 1800's and join the rest of the nation. Such deferential treatment for them is ridiculous!
by Ms
Nov 11, 2008 1:21 PM
The sisters wouldn't be FORCED to try and sue if the Seminoles would just do the right thing and turn over the information. The indians know they can't be sued anyway so they risk nothing by turning the info over. They are just being hateful.
by Gator
Nov 11, 2008 1:21 PM
Wait...It's ok for the Seminoles to profit (tax free I might add) off of the addictions of others? Not to mention that they are doing this illegaly. But it's wrong to expect the seminoles to pay for a wrongful death?
by Cynthia
Nov 11, 2008 10:08 AM
My condolences to the family. But if my mother was given a clean bill of health and two weeks later died, I would be investigating the doctor.
by Sal
Nov 11, 2008 10:07 AM
Indian reservations are like foriegn nations, do not go there if you want to be governed by US law. Simple as that.
by SB
Nov 11, 2008 10:07 AM
I'm sorry for your loss but it just seems like your suing for the money. If you want people to stop thinking that, sign something that gives any money awarded to research for heart disease in your mothers name then the nasty comments will stop.
by barton
Nov 10, 2008 8:05 PM
I do feel bad for their loss, but why do they NEED this money? This is the problem with our legal system. Its just greed.
by Dave
Nov 10, 2008 5:05 PM
Different laws in the reservation? Does this mean pot is legal there?
by Sandy
Nov 10, 2008 5:04 PM
Talley Family, I would agree with M. I am sorry for your loss, and I hope you get the justice you so deserve, but anything said here could be used against you if you ever get your day in court.
by M
Nov 10, 2008 4:05 PM
Talley family, your attorney would be wise in advising you to not comment on a public forum such as the comment page on an online newspaper.
by Mom
Nov 10, 2008 3:09 PM
You'd have better odds of getting proper medical attention and legal protection from the Iraqis if you were standing in middle of Iraq, waiving an American flag, while wearing an I heart George Bush t-shirt than you would from the Seminoles.
by Mom
Nov 10, 2008 3:06 PM
The bottom line is if the tribe had nothing to hide they would provide the information to these sisters. Forget about their indian rights. What about human kindness? These sisters are trying to understand how and why their mother died.
by Mom
Nov 10, 2008 3:04 PM
Josh-Crist created this. This is what he wanted. Why do you think he went about it the way he did. He knew what he was doing was illegal. He also knew it would take time to sort it all out in court and it was just enough to let the Indians open.
by Donna
Nov 10, 2008 1:54 PM
lung and unfortunately he passed away. was the doctors to blame I dont know but what I do know people have been declared very healthy and still the very next day die of a heart attack etc. and if you feel this way dont go to the casino.
by Donna
Nov 10, 2008 1:39 PM
I am sorry for your loss. However I would also want someone to look into my Mothers medical records.I'm not saying that the doctor was wrong but he could have missed something at her physical. my father i aws cancer was not detected in his other lung
by rick again
Nov 10, 2008 1:34 PM
The problem is the land was bought for this casino its not really traditional native land ,just that the tribe gets profits off this and they really don't run this . The Seminoles have others do this and they use the tribe Immunity to their advantage
by RICK
Nov 10, 2008 1:19 PM
RE: Joe in St Pete... Obamian style lawyer scumbag?Yes that Gordon is a money grabber and I don?t know anything about this case accept what I?ve read here but I don?t put Obama or other people in the same category , grow up!
by Linda
Nov 10, 2008 12:56 PM
Joe in st pete. I think he would be an Edward's type lawyer not Obama who is a constitutional law major. John Edwards was the malpractice lawyer.
by ohio girl
Nov 10, 2008 11:49 AM
I live in this country and have to abide by the laws (like it or not)NOBODY is supposed to be above the law, I guess justice is blind (for the casino owners anyway. I won't be going there,you could get murdered and it could be hushed up!
by Kay
Nov 10, 2008 11:48 AM
Going to a tribe casino is, in essence, like going to a foreign country. Don't expect the same rights, the same protections or the same medical care.
by Mike
Nov 10, 2008 11:48 AM
I really feel bad that this lady died, but how is it the Casinos fault? Are we moving toward a society where you cannot let anyone with any medical condition on your premisis? Require a doctors note to walk into a store? How does this make sense???
by Jason R
Nov 10, 2008 11:48 AM
I infer from this article that the Seminole tribe operates the business in Florida, yet the tribe is exempt from Florida laws and court system? Some additional clarification would be helpful.
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