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As long as they don't cut football…

By Howard Troxler, Times Columnist
In print: Thursday, June 12, 2008


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There was a little blip in the news the other day about the resignation of the dean of arts and sciences at the University of South Florida.

This news did not exactly set off shock waves across Tampa Bay. Maybe it would have been a bigger deal if Hulk Hogan's family were somehow involved.

And yet, the resignation of this dean, John Skvoretz, is part of a story much bigger than the Hulkster — in fact, it is one of the biggest stories brewing in Florida.

Skvoretz came to USF a little more than three years ago from the University of South Carolina amid high hopes.

On the research side, see, USF goes like gangbusters. The school could well cure cancer one day and reach the nation's elite research tiers. That would be great. All for it.

On the other hand, I have never heard anyone pound a lectern and demand that USF churn out the nation's top historians, musicians or philosophers. This is understandable, considering the economics involved, but unfortunate.

So this Skvoretz fellow, a sociologist by trade, was going to work on the mix. Three years later he is quitting, getting out just before a wave of reorganization that should be announced soon.

In a statement mild by Jerry Springer standards, but a tad in-your-face for a university bureaucracy, Skvoretz said he could not abide proposals for the "potential dismantling" of the college, with only "limited consideration" of the consequences.

This is one more thing happening against a backdrop of higher-ed budget cuts across the state, and continued battles over whether Florida's universities will be under the political control of the Legislature or an independent Board of Governors.

At USF this year, the budget cuts are about $35-million.

At the University of Florida, $47-million.

At Florida State University, $32-million.

We are already into a "brain drain" as some of Florida's university leaders and faculty are lured to states that appreciate them more. North Carolina's university system, for example, recently declared this is a fine time to be plucking talent from Florida.

High-profile faculty or administrators have left for Pennsylvania and Iowa, for Northwestern and Tulane, for Ohio and North Carolina. There has been a drumbeat of departure reports.

"My wife and I don't want to leave, but this is the worst it's ever been," Charles Figley, 62, an FSU trauma expert leaving for Tulane University after nearly two decades, said in one recent article. "It's just not a good place for academics these days."

Despite all this, there are still some Floridians who will say:

So what? Who needs a bunch of crybaby professors anyway? Let 'em leave. The universities need to slash their budgets just like everybody else, anyway. And so forth.

But me, I am a child of the South who believes this above all else concerning education: No state will become great and remain great without a great state university.

That includes scientific research, but it also includes the study of poetry and philosophy, painting and dancing.

If you agree, don't tell me. Tell your legislator. Look 'em up and call or send an e-mail, and say: "Somehow, you have gotten the notion that this is the Florida that I want. You are wrong. Change it."

In any case, we will have the state that we deserve.



[Last modified: Jun 14, 2008 09:39 PM]



Comments on this article
by Bruce Jun 14, 2008 9:39 PM
I'm one of those faculty members who left Florida for the greener pastures of the midwest, and while we have our challenges here, they pale by comparison that those that have resulted from the politics and ignorance that dominate in Florida. A shame.
by David Jun 13, 2008 9:30 AM
Florida University System = State Employee Try it in the Private Sector instead of living off folks you look down on - working tax payers.
by Jane Jun 12, 2008 7:42 PM
I am a retired public school teacher. Football is god. Learn to worship it or shut up. In all my years in education I have never seen a football program cut back in any way. I hate it. I always have, I always will.
by Andrew Jun 12, 2008 1:47 PM
We all knew this would happen under Amendment 1 and this isn't even the beginning of it!
by mlm Jun 12, 2008 12:02 PM
The biggest problem is that the state runs education as a business. It is more important to stay in the black than to educate. Education is a public good meant to exist even in the worst of times. Where did I learn that? The University of Florida.
by Homer Jun 12, 2008 12:02 PM
This is what "low tax" Charlie gave you - and I'm a life long Republican! The Republican mantra is dead. Let's rebuild our state and our country, even if we have to pay a little tax to do it.
by Parker Jun 12, 2008 12:02 PM
blame the st. pete times for ruining people's gauge on what news is... they are the ones putting hulk hogan on the front page every day. and this morning another fluff piece was on the front page about some lady who lost her job. who cares?
by Tino Jun 12, 2008 12:02 PM
Although 99% of the responses here will whine and moan about how we need to spend more tax dollars on universities, the sad fact remains that Florida college tuition is cheaper than the cost of daycare for a 4 year old. You get what you pay for.
by Cletus Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Just par for the course in Florida. I'm glad the intellectuals are leaving. Now they can let us wallow in our own inbred filth. We've got stereotypes to uphold!
by hcb Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Give me a break Howard - the goal is to be a "world class" place - not a nerd nook. We've got the Bucs and rhe Rays and the stadiums. With bigger and better places to play on the way. We don't need artsy-fartsy to be high falutin' Lighten up.
by mike Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Get a clue Troxler - we cut the budget because there is not enough money to do everything we want. I want health care, I want an alternative fuel so I can tell the Cartel to stuff it. If I want poetry, I'll get an old book from a destitute author.
by Kenneth Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Good column - what no one wants to accept is that we need to raise tuition to keep up with demand. It's not popular, but who cares how open to the masses a college education is if the degree becomes worthless?
by tbmike Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Poetry and philosophy and the rest do not put food on the table, solve global warming or do other things that improve our lives. That is why we get our butts kicked on the world market. You want poetry, read an old book from a person always poor.
by Mathis Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Mr. Troxler's observations are right on point. The issue of Florida's "brain drain" should a serious focus of concern rather than a "blip" buried in the St. Pete Times. This is headlines material if FL is ever to become an educational jewel.
by Mary Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
Oh, the Governor and the Legislature doesn't care - after all it just means more "special" jobs for them (that they mostly don't qualify for) after they are termed out.
by Greg Jun 12, 2008 12:01 PM
I recently graduated from FSU, and the professor I most related with, a great mentor, is leaving for Dartmouth. I don't blame him one bit. Florida is not a friend of creativity or the arts, only business r and d. Existence w/o meaning is death!
by Tim Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
One less leftie democrat on the state's voter rolls. That's a good thing!
by Greg Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
This is why I'm grateful I graduated from the University of Miami.
by Edward Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
I sure hope all y'all are enjoying your extra $245/year.
by EB Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
It is unfair to single out football as the cuts would be greater without the revenue generated by football. Perhaps the answer is to have universities with limited disciplines and not have them competing against one another for money for redundancy.
by Kim Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
If they want to go let them go. No one is forcing them to leave. It is good they can better themselves else where. That is life.
by tom Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
this situation will only improve when the business community begins to value people with lib.arts degrees rather than rewarding business + engineering almost exclusively. I am held back looking for work with my USF History B.A. degree.
by USF Student Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
The impact to USF is already dramatic. The entire vibe on campus has changed. I'm transferring to HCC to get my nursing degree.
by BW Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
Florida gets the educational system it deserves: no income tax, reactionary legislature, what do you expect?
by Mark Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
As an FSU student, I say this is a well written piece... All very true. Keep the universities under the board! State politics have no place in dictating university policy.
by Marc Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
Sad, very sad. Look what Amendment 1 got us. Pretty soon, we will be a "Third World State". With a bunch of rich retirees, and the rest of us cleaning their bathrooms.
by Wayne Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
Mr. Troxler I agree that these faculty members that are leaving are vital to the health of our educational system. However where should we get the 114 million (mentioned here) plus from the states shortfall. Are higher taxes the only answer?
by alan b Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM
it's time to clean house in Tallahassee. Our legislators are derelict in their duties. Fools like Ken Pruitt have no understanding of the importance of good university system. Their refusal to address the funding needs is criminal. Kick 'em all out!
by Rocky Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM
From a USF Grad: "Dern tootin'!"
by Ted W. Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM
Business leaders in our state don't see the value in a high quality public school system - they figure anyone that matters will be educated at elite institutions. Everyone else can fend for themselves - they just don't matter. We got the message.
by Dave W Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM
Trox, you have a point. However, USF's problems stem from a lack of infrastructure. We need more (and better) classrooms to avoid the 30 person seminar and we need academic support staff capable of placing us nationally. The budget woes are terrible.
by b^s Jun 12, 2008 11:59 AM
Good points in the article. Something really does need to be done! The title brings a little bit of ignorance to light though. You do realize how much money football brings in right? I would come up with something a little smarter there.
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