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Senate PE bill may mean longer day for Pinellas middle schools

By Thomas C. Tobin, Staff Writer
In print: Wednesday, March 19, 2008


Sixth-grader La-Nell Pinckney prepares to serve during her PE class at Meadowlawn Middle School in St. Petersburg with, from left, Breanna Kass, Gavyn Bradford and Jessica Maxwell.
Sixth-grader La-Nell Pinckney prepares to serve during her PE class at Meadowlawn Middle School in St. Petersburg with, from left, Breanna Kass, Gavyn Bradford and Jessica Maxwell.
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Pinellas middle schools would be allowed to offer more elective classes and possibly lengthen their day under a schedule change proposed by the district.

The six-period day now in place at most middle schools would be replaced by a schedule allowing for as many as two additional classes. Administrators have proposed extending the middle school day by as much as 22 minutes.

The proposal is partly a response to a bill in the Florida Senate that would require more physical education classes in middle school. The bill, sponsored by Sen. Lee Constantine, R-Altamonte Springs, is expected to sail through the Senate's Pre-K-12 Education Committee in a hearing today.

The state already requires middle school PE, but allows students to opt out in favor of gifted classes and yearlong electives. Only half of Florida's middle school students are enrolled in PE, according to the Department of Education.

Constantine helped lead last year's effort to require more PE classes in elementary school. He said Tuesday his efforts to restore PE go back about five years and are rooted in concerns over childhood obesity.

"It just needs to be done," he said, citing studies by the state. "There are just too many kids running around today that have no concept of play time. & It's the right thing to do."

But educators in Pinellas and other districts say more PE could further crowd a middle school schedule that already includes state-mandated classes in intensive reading and math for struggling students. They say it has become difficult for some students to work in electives, which help kids explore new interests, prepare them for the rigors of high school and keep them engaged in education.

"We have teachers that really want to teach (electives)," said Stephanie Joyner, director of middle school education for Pinellas. She listed subjects as varied as computer graphics, drama and music theater in addition to the more typical offerings of band and foreign language.

"We have great opportunities out there," Joyner said. "It's just that right now the schedule doesn't allow for those opportunities for most students."

Pinellas officials say they would be considering the schedule change even if the PE bill had not surfaced. Among their reasons:

• Keeping kids engaged by taking more electives could help improve Pinellas' mediocre graduation rate.

• Electives could improve the district's "market share" in a time of declining enrollment, helping attract students who might otherwise choose private schools.

• In tough budget times, packing more classes into the day could allow the district to get more for each dollar it pays teachers. Under the current schedule, for example, most middle school teachers are in classes for five of six periods, or 83 percent of the day. If they taught seven of eight periods, it would be 87.5 percent of the day.

Officials say they would not impose one schedule on all middle schools, and superintendent Clayton Wilcox has said he would not support a straight eight-period day.

The district is leaning more toward flexible schedules that would alternate subjects on different days. Middle schoolers accustomed to 54-minute classes instead might have a mix of classes in the 85- and 45-minute range.

The district is debating how it might implement the proposal and whether it could be in place for the 2008-09 school year. The idea is the work of a committee of teachers, principals, district administrators and union officials who have been meeting for two years to discuss middle and high school reform. Members of the panel have insisted that each school be allowed to devise its own schedule.

"How many times can you say you get a chance to redesign your school?" said Kim Black, president of the Pinellas Classroom Teachers Association. "That's where I think the opportunity is incredible."

If there's a downside, said Black, it's that middle school teachers could be expected to work harder for the same pay. In the current six-period schedule where teachers teach five classes, they would see 110 students next year. Under the proposed schedule they would see as many as two additional classes, which means more students and more papers to grade.

The district says it would give each teacher no more than 140 students, but Black said that number sounds unrealistic.

"We're definitely not interested in doing anything to increase the teachers' workload," she said.

District officials say middle and high school teachers spend a smaller percentage of their day in front of students than elementary school teachers. They say the change could make the system more equitable.

But Black said that argument doesn't account for the time middle and high school teachers spend with students outside the classroom.

"There's a lot more things that go into teaching besides the number of minutes you're in a room," she said.

The shortage of elective opportunities is especially acute among student who perform poorly on the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test. They are required by the state to take remedial math and reading courses, leaving little or no time for electives.

In Hillsborough County, most middle school students already take PE daily, said Josie Sanders, general director for middle schools.

"If it's mandated, it's mandated," she said of the PE bill. "My understanding is if it does happen, it won't be too much of a challenge for us."

But Steve Vanoer, Hillsborough's PE supervisor, worries about having enough teachers in place for daily fitness lessons at every school. If the legislation passes, he said schools will face some scheduling hurdles.

"It'll be a challenge, and particularly with the students that are taking intensive reading and math," he said.

Constantine's bill originally called for 225 minutes of PE a week in middle school. But objections raised by music teachers and others led to a change Tuesday.

Constantine amended the bill to require "the equivalent of" only one PE class per day for one semester each year, offering districts some flexibility. In addition, students could easily opt out with a letter from their parents saying they wanted to take another class or they were active in athletics outside of school.

Thomas C. Tobin can be reached at tobin@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8923.



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Comments on this article
by kaelyn Mar 25, 2008 1:38 PM
teachers dont do enough stuff at school anyways and their off in the summer so they should quit complaining and do their job & have more physical education time . KIDS ARE GETTING FAT! get that through your head i dont want my kids to be 5 and 12
by JLAE Mar 24, 2008 4:16 PM
Back to Basics,Make parents responsible for their kids,Allow harsher discipline in schools, but PE is a very good idea, just don't dump it all on the educators of this state. And get rid of the FCAT.
by justthinkiing Mar 23, 2008 6:03 PM
This is a sugar coated article. First, when teacher's wanted to teach 6 out of 6 to earn more money they were told it wasn't in the students' best interest to have us teach that many. Now they want us to teach more students, in less ti
by Jon Mar 20, 2008 12:48 PM
Is there some reason kids cant excercise at home? Shouldnt they be going to school to learn basic academics?
by Chip Mar 20, 2008 12:42 PM
Daily PE is needed. Kids today are soft and fat. However, increasing teachers' workloads is NOT the answer. They are already overwhelmed. The Senate needs to fund for extra PE teachers or district administrators need to rotate back to the classr
by Pops Mar 20, 2008 12:38 PM
And who's going to pay for this? We are, that's who. It's bad enough schools don't have enough money for basic educational needs, now we need to buy tennis rackets and volley balls. PE is a waste of time and money.
by Edith Mar 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Please, someone understand the hours that are put into the classroom that are never paid, not to mention the money teachers send for supplies. Raise, no one said that, they just said more students and more time.
by CC Mar 19, 2008 8:19 PM
Regardless of state requirements, I think PCS is very rude to require middle school teachers to have more student contact and less prep. This is an unfair burden & share of the workload-will our pay increase? Glad I'm not a classroom te
by jjs Mar 19, 2008 8:15 PM
Kids now get breakfast and lunch, they are in school for a portion of the day and now schools are responsible for their obesity. Where are the parents? That’s right, they are voting for more school time so they don’t have to spend it with their kids.
by Janet Mar 19, 2008 8:10 PM
Hey! My entire comment did not get printed below. I had written that it was "extremely beneficial" for us, in many ways.
by V Mar 19, 2008 5:24 PM
AND JUST WHERE DOES THE ILLUSTRIOUS SENATE PROPOSE THE SCHOOLS GET THE MONEY FOR AN ADDED PERIOD/PE TEACHERS/AND ALL OTHER EXPENSES CONNECTED WITH THIS VERY BERY STUPID PROPOSAL??????????????
by middle school teacher Mar 19, 2008 5:23 PM
I've taught for 30 yrs, elem. and middle. There are far more papers, grades, parent emails, conferences with the 135 middle school students that the 23 elem students I had. More classes = more students = more papers = less planning = less effe
by Julie Mar 19, 2008 5:22 PM
Teachers work 100% of their paid work day, whether it's in front of the class or preparing it. This isn't to mention the HOURS, of time spent at night and on the weekends planning and grading. Our planning time is only good enough to m
by shelly Mar 19, 2008 4:56 PM
The parents are the ones responsible for their obese children and the law that permits pedophiles to roam our streets makes it hard for parents to let their kids out to play.
by Jimmy-jam Mar 19, 2008 4:56 PM
I'm getting fatter every day I go to school.
by another middle school teacher Mar 19, 2008 4:48 PM
Kindly do the math. Teachers will now have possibly 1 45-minute period to prep, grade... for 7 classes. This amounts to a little less than 7 minutes per class. Might I suggest we allow the parents the opportunity to help their children in this a
by MiddleSchoolMom Mar 19, 2008 4:46 PM
I am all for PE but agree with JK, school starting times need to change first. The time in the morning is wasted and they get out too late to do after school activities. Start them earlier, you will see a big improvement in learning.
by Jackie Mar 19, 2008 4:46 PM
Perhaps parents should take the PSPs out of the hands of these overactive/overweight children and put a baseball or basketball in place of these sedentary life-promoting devices! Why are tchrs given more responsibility and prnts are let off the
by Middle School Teacher Mar 19, 2008 3:39 PM
I am for every day PE.I am not afraid of 150 students, it is what we used to have.Start times need to be earlier.I agree about after school activities being important especially time w/ family ...9:45 start is too late.
by Kelly Mar 19, 2008 3:18 PM
Also, with obesity going up so do health issues. Which in turn cause people to go to the doctor more and in turn raise insurance costs. If we, the parents and the school, teach our kids now how to exercise and eat right it may help insurance cost.
by Loretha Mar 19, 2008 10:20 AM
What a bunch of morons. You expect teachers to not complain about this when there is still no discipline in the schools? That's waht makes teaching middle school so hard. I never understood why PE was taken out of the schools in the first place.
by Kelly Mar 19, 2008 10:17 AM
We need PE in schools. The obesity rate is up and we are raising kids that do not exercise or have time to release any energy. More kids are diagnosed with ADHD. Maybe if they released their energy in PE they wouldn't be so hyper or overweigh
by Janet Mar 19, 2008 10:17 AM
"Back in the day", when I was a student in the Pinellas County school system (1st-12th grades), we had PE every day, 7th grade-10th grade. We all, (even intellectually gifted), had PE every day. It was extreme
by Bonnie Mar 19, 2008 10:16 AM
Children are OBESE and are getting life long illnesses due the lack of physical activity. It is the right thing to do for kids. Good grades mean nothing if a person is incapacitated or worse DEAD.
by Colleen Perry Mar 19, 2008 10:16 AM
Kim Black is correct about the teachers' work load and class prepation. Teacher prep time is valuable and increases quality classes. Concerned citizens, beware of packing more classes into a teacher's school day in order to get more for you
by John Donson Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
I got an idea. Why don't they do away with the prep class for the FCAT? This is something the kids should be learning in regular classes anyway. Accountable teachers and admin wouldn't rely on a FCAT class. Waste of time and money. Let the
by MM Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
It's about time! The kids of today need serious help. Video games, computers, TV & lazy parents are going to cost this country billions in health care if we don't act now. I'm proud to live in a county that is brave enough to ac
by kitty Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
Exercise stimulates the brain. Requiring PE might reduce the need for those state-mandated classes in intensive reading and math for struggling students.
by Middle School Teacher Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
S. Joyners’ math is fuzzy, 22 X 7=154 students, not 140. That is more students for less time a week, more paperwork, and less time to plan or meet with parents. I guess the school board does not care about teachers or their retention.
by PEteacher Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
We are the fattest country in the world! We need daily PE for all schools!
by JK Mar 19, 2008 10:14 AM
Pinellas County Middle schools need to start earlier !!! How can we add 22 minutes and not start until 9:45AM. Those children will have no room for after school activities. They should start no later than 8:00AM, even without adding the 22 minutes.
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