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BROOKSVILLE — The number of children planning to attend Hernando County's new gifted education center has fallen far short of expectations, officials said this week.
Only 49 percent, or 188 of the 383 eligible elementary and middle school students in the district, have signed up to attend the Quest Academy for Gifted Education at the new Explorer K-8, said special education director Cathy Dofka.
That turnout was a disappointment for several School Board members who have championed a single, full-day program for the county's most talented students.
"Seems mighty low," board member Pat Fagan said Tuesday. "The low numbers concern me."
Around 47 families remain undecided about the program, and others have sought testing to be included, Dofka said.
But as it stands, those who opt out of the program will receive no special services when classes resume in the fall. Officials have said they can't afford to serve children in multiple locations, since the center's $1.7-million budget depends on the extra state funding.
Under state law, gifted children are treated as special-needs students and bring in about $2,100 each in extra funding. "Gifted" is defined as scoring at least two standard deviations above the mean IQ score, and qualifying in at least one category on a state checklist or meeting other approved criteria.
Superintendent Wayne Alexander previously said he'd expected most eligible children would attend the center, despite the objections of parents who wanted their children to receive services in their current schools rather than be bused to the new school in Spring Hill.
But based on the latest numbers, officials have removed nine of the 24 teachers allocated for the center in next year's budget, finance director Deborah Bruggink said Tuesday. It was unclear where those teachers would work next fall, but most would likely return to their current schools.
Most of those nine had been assigned to the center's upper grades, which have failed to attract as many students as had been expected, said business services director Heather Martin.
School Board members weren't told of those changes or the low turnout at a Tuesday workshop, even after a lengthy discussion about the possibility of boosting the salary of a gifted coordinator position.
The board agreed in principle to the idea of allowing principal Dominick Ferello to revise that job description, possibly with a higher salary or more working days.
He expressed confidence that other gifted children would be found to cover the shortfall.
"I think it's a good start, I really do," he said.
Between now and the school's opening in August, the district hopes to screen children who earned a perfect score on the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test or other state tests, said student services director James Knight.
He described those as "the easy-to-find criteria," given the difficulties of identifying new gifted children over the summer break. "We're looking for a very narrow time frame to get this done."
Tom Marshall can be reached at tmarshall@sptimes.com or (352) 848-1431.
383 elementary and middle school students are eligible to attend the Quest Academy for Gifted Education.
188 of the eligible students have signed up.
200-250
is the number of students board member Jim Malcolm said the district was hoping to have in the program its first year.
$2,100 is the amount of extra funding under state law that a gifted child brings in to a district.
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Comments on this article
by foreigner
Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM
Let's test your gifted kids in other countries and see if they still have the 180IQ you allege.And their parents do not have the attitudes!No wonder why this county is the way it is, it starts at home.
by Tami
Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM
Because the board as outspent the funding (2100 per student) each "gifted" student provides.
by AJ
Jun 4, 2008 9:38 PM
By the way CS, you say that Explorer will house children with a wide range of disbilities, but since your children will be in gifted classes with different curriculum, they won't be interacting with them. What a shame.
by AJ
Jun 4, 2008 9:35 PM
CS, I wish your child all the best at EK8. How do you know that my child's teachers don't teach beyond the mandated curriculum? By the way, I guarantee if we were talking about shipping LD kids to one location the entire county would be in an uproar!
by Lani
Jun 4, 2008 9:34 PM
Why are you using district funds to pay for this program? Since "gifted students" generate more funding than typical students...use ESE money to pay for teachers and a coordinator.
by quest mom
Jun 4, 2008 9:33 PM
My child is in Quest. A big factor for parents is that sibling that are not zoned for the explorer K-8 school are turned away for regular classs and who wants to split there children up! And we always hear families are important, so are they?
by Informed
Jun 4, 2008 9:30 PM
Thank god the gene pool your gifted child inherited skipped by YOUR generation. There is a reason why people think our county consists of nothing but ignorant rednecks. You people symbolize it. Don't want to go there, shut up, leave the rest alone
by Mom of Gifted
Jun 4, 2008 9:26 PM
To "I am Einstein" - You completely missed the point. Typical!
by Mom of Gifted
Jun 4, 2008 9:25 PM
To Concerned: Channeling Hitler – the last bastian of the desperate! You don’t have an argument of any merit, so you go for the classic Hitler remark. How many neurons had to fire to come up with that one? Women belong in the kitchen and gifted kids need to spread their intellect so “the lesser” kids can benefit. Give me a break and go back to watching inane sitcoms!
by Concerned
Jun 4, 2008 5:28 PM
Do you all forget that these So Called Gifted kids need other kids from all abilities to understand society and social interactions?or do you want a new Hitler generation?I can see a generation of arrogants just like Alexander.
by CS
Jun 4, 2008 5:24 PM
The centralized gifted center is the choice you have been given and is the choice parents who are truly concerned for their children (not their own egos) have embraced. If you choose to deny your children this opportunity then it is no one’s fault but your own. Poster – “AT” stated that in 3 months the county will start lowering its standards for gifted placement. Unstated in the article is the fact there are 50 +/- students on a waiting list to be tested for gifted, more candidates identified by FCAT scores, not to mention the soon-to-be published dates for open gifted testing. I firmly believe the three of you will be knocking on Explorer’s front door before the end of the next school year.
by CS
Jun 4, 2008 5:09 PM
And finally, 6) To: “Gifted Mom of 3” and “Mom of 2 gifted and 1 high achiever”, it is so very obvious you both suffer from a serious case of SOUR GRAPES. Just because you cannot have the center located in YOUR school, you instead try to rally parents to “keep up the united front and do NOT enroll your kids at the new gifted center. If we hold strong the county will give our children services where they attend school”. I am truly appalled by that childish statement. These are statements that reflect a 2 year olds attitude: If I can’t have the toy, than no one should. The county is NOT going to give your children services where they now attend school because the county cannot AFFORD to do so.
by CS
Jun 4, 2008 5:08 PM
the gifted center, but will be home to a number of children with a wide range of disabilities who finally have state-of-the-art equipment and technology they deserve, as well as the diverse population that makes up the neighborhood this school will serve. What better place for a child to who “needs to learn to work with children from all walks of life”. 5) Curriculum for the “gifted learner” is NOT just “about the teacher”. If your child is truly gifted they need to be challenged BEYOND the state and county curriculum mandates. Our new center will be providing one of the states best educational curriculums for the gifted learner. What a shame your child will not be allowed to be one of them.
by Mom of 2 gifted
Jun 4, 2008 5:08 PM
There are other parents in the district with disabled children, etc. who fight DAILY to ensure that their needs are met. Here is an opportunity to have our children's needs met too on a daily basis. GOOD JOB HCSB!!
by I am Einstein
Jun 4, 2008 5:05 PM
Send them to EK8 w/the uncertified teachers your child will be dealing with.I will hear you complain in a few months.TO Mom of Gifted:get a grip, 180?You are so arrogant just like alexander,teach your kids humility.They might not offer it at EK8!
by bubblicious
Jun 4, 2008 5:05 PM
CS, sorry to burst your bubble but if all the gifted kids are going to it, then it is a MAGNET SCHOOL(the other 1/2 is zoned) only with Elitist Requirements=Be family of board members or alexander.
by curious
Jun 4, 2008 5:03 PM
Hmm? To C.S=You must be some kind of school county employee since you can write more than others, you might even be Alexander for all I know trying to cover up your mess and making it look ok.Sup can get away w/anythg, even more lines to write.HA!
by CS
Jun 4, 2008 4:41 PM
Everyone seems to forget: 1) this is NOT a magnet school. It is a NEIGHBORHOOD school. You know, the type everyone who opposes has been crying for. That is why, (poster - "Brian") siblings cannot attend. 2) If your priority is for shorter drive-time and less distance vs. quality of education, than that is YOUR choice, but don’t inflict those values on others. 3) To poster “AT”: There is nothing in the statutes or rules that states that educational services must be in a convenient location for parents. Just like the district doesn’t consult parents as to where they’d like new schools built, nor should they have to. Furthermore, poster - “AJ”, states that his daughter will not go to Explorer because “She needs to learn to work with children from all walks of life. This (Explorer) does not provide for that experience”. Unfortunately this is truly a missed opportunity for your daughter. Explorer will not only house the
by Mom of Gifted
Jun 4, 2008 4:18 PM
AT: Research supports full-time as the best option. You don't think it's best for your kid, so you don't want anyone to have the option? What do you have against Plan B? My kid has an IQ of 180 - I don't look down on your kid cause his is only 150!
by Full time fan
Jun 4, 2008 3:02 PM
My children had the good fortune of full time programming and I bet their social interactions iwth non-gifted peers are indistinguible from children who did not have full time programming.
Parents would scream endlessly if they ever took away FT pro
by AT
Jun 4, 2008 3:02 PM
MY SON WOULD NOT DO WELL IN A FULL TIME GIFTED SCHOOL BUT IF THE SCHOOL BOARD WOULD OF ASKED THEY MIGHT HAVE NOT MADE THIS BIG MISTAKE.I HOPE FOR THEIR SAKES ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR THIS ELITE CENTER WE ARE BROKE!!!!
by AT
Jun 4, 2008 3:02 PM
JUST WAIT I GIVE IT 3 MONTHS AND THEY WILL LOWER IQ STANDARDS FROM 130 TO 120 DONT FORGET ABOUT PLAN B PEOPLE.THEN THEY WILL GET THE 2100 FROM OTHER KIDS.BUT HEY EVEN THOUGH MY SON HAS AN IQ OF 150 ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY SHAME ON SCHOOL BOARD.
by MOM
Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM
AND THEY ARE FIRING a.K.a/ NOT REHIRING HOW MANY TEACHERS.....ANF HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WASTED MONEY!!!ALSO, I AM ASHAMED THAT I HAVE TO DRIVE MY CHILD NEARLY 25 MIN AWAY JUST TO GO GO A "BETTER" SCHOOL! ITS ALL THE SAME MONEY (OURS)!
by Mom of Gifted
Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM
News Flash: There wasn't room in the "magnet school setting." Desirable would be to have full-time services at each & every school. Reality is what we got, and it’s a heck of a lot more than what they're doing in other counties. I'm thankful!
by Diane
Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM
Fortunate are the children whose parents chose to have their needs met on a full time basis where they can learn with their intellectual peers, which is where they learn best. Read the research.
by CarmellaS
Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM
I have always found the best way to respond to newspaper articles is to first investigate its validity, otherwise, I become an outspoken and uninformed victim of the provocative and sensationalistic intent of the writer. All of these posts only demonstrate the severe misconception and misinformation this community labors under. Ask yourselves: who hopes to gain by fostering these twists of truth? The answer is those who are only trying to satisfy their own self-serving needs.
Every parent in our county has the CHOICE to send his or her child to the new gifted center. There is not one gifted child who is "unable to transfer" to the center. All gifted students have the same ability to attend the new school, while in the same regard, each parent of these children have the responsibility to determine if this center will fit the needs and circumstances unique to their family.
Our county is facing the difficult decision of where and how to cut a school budget that lacks alre
by Tom
Jun 4, 2008 3:01 PM
Cool, Even better than I thought it could be. Smaller classes with more teacher attention for these kids who have been HOSED for so long. It's not 400K lost if it was supposed to be spent on gifted kids anyway. No service-No funds. Parents choice.
by Brian
Jun 4, 2008 2:58 PM
My gifted children are staying at Moton. We love the school and teachers! Maybe if they allowed siblings to attend, then we would have considered it.
Once again out of step with what the parents want. Way to go HCSB!!!
by TA
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
Don't be idiots.Send your kids to the new school.There are so many benefits and they need to be challenged.The school board will not change their minds so get on board or leave it alone.
by Mom of 2 gifted & 1 high achiever
Jun 4, 2008 2:07 PM
These results are not surprising given the fact that the gifted population was never surveyed to determine their needs. For multiple reasons, the gifted center would have been desirable to all in a magnet school setting.
by KAREN J.
Jun 4, 2008 11:35 AM
THIS IS THE 1ST I HEARD OF THAT.MOVE THE TEACHERS AROUND TO ALL SCHOOLS 4 THIS.MY CHILD IS GIFTED, COMPARED TO THE SLACKERS IN HER CLASS.I'D LIKE HER TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.
by Jessica
Jun 4, 2008 10:51 AM
This is a perfect example of how out of touch this school board and "CEO" are with the parents of this county. I cant believe I voted for these clowns.
by Craig
Jun 4, 2008 10:02 AM
With all of the cuts in the school budget, here's an additional $400,000 they can try to recover somehow. You can't underestimate the importance of a happy child staying in a school in which they are comfortable and happy.
by AJ
Jun 4, 2008 9:56 AM
My child will not go to Explorer.She needs to learn to work with children from all walks of life.This does not provide for that experience.Curriculum is just that,curriculum...it's about the teacher, not what's in a book or on a computer.
by Gifted Mom of 3
Jun 4, 2008 9:26 AM
Way to go parents! Keep up the united front and do NOT enroll your kids at the new gifted center. If we hold strong the county will give our children services where they attend school. It is about time Alexander sees that he doesn't call all the shot
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