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The future of the Florida softshell turtle, such as this one at George C. McGough Nature Park’s in Largo, is open to debate.
[BRIAN CASSELLA | Times]
Tim Thomas fishes a baby softshell turtle out of a holding tank in his Eagle Lake backyard.
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TAMPA — Nearly 100 people turned out Thursday to debate whether to ban the capture of Florida softshell turtles for export to China. But the loudest voice belonged to someone who wasn't there: Gov. Charlie Crist.
Crist sent a letter to the head of the state wildlife commission urging the agency to "move toward a complete ban on the harvesting of our wild turtles."
"According to many of the turtle biologists, if the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is not vigilant and does not act swiftly, we could be in grave danger of irreparable damage to our turtle population," Crist said.
The governor's opinion was unknown to the nearly 100 attendees at the wildlife commission meeting, which was called in light of the weekly exporting of thousands of wild softshells to China, where people consume the animals for food and medicine. Biologists fear the softshells are being overfished, while fisherman say they are barely making an impact on the species.
By the end of Thursday's meeting, there was one sure conclusion:
No one can prove either side since the state has no scientific data on the softshell population.
With the country in recession and state legislators threatening budget cuts, a study is unlikely, state officials acknowledged, especially considering the species isn't threatened.
All the wildlife commission could do was collect perspectives at the hearing from the likes of turtle fishermen, a turtle exporter, biologists and taxpayers such as Marcus Milnes, a Clearwater chiropractor, who came because he wants to ban turtle hunting.
The wildlife commission estimates exporters are shipping up to 3,000 pounds of softshell turtles a week out of Tampa International Airport. For years, the state had no limits on taking softshell turtles, which biologists say can grow as large as 100 pounds.
In September, as wildlife officers reported seeing fishermen with truck beds full of turtles, officials imposed limit of five softshells per person per day except for licensed commercial fishermen, who can trap 20.
Now Crist wants a ban.
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Of the wildlife commission's seven board members, Crist appointed or reappointed six.
"The people of Florida want the very best for our natural resources, and I am sure that you will meet their expectations as you deliberate this issue over the next several months," Crist told commission chairman Rodney Barreto, whom he reappointed.
Fishermen said Thursday they're already feeling effects of restrictions. Sean Lee, who hunts turtles full time, made as much as $3,000 a week before expenses until the current limits cut his income by two-thirds. He said he could drive 10 minutes from downtown and find a turtle, which he said are thriving.
"We're going into a depression. You know what you're fixing to do?" fisherman Levi Miller, 50, told opponents. "You're fixing to help people lose their house."
Turtle fishermen earn $1 to $1.50 per pound. They use hooks baited with chicken, pork fat and bacon to capture the turtles for exporters who airfreight the animals live. "Have you got any data on the Florida softshell turtle?" William Shockley, a third-generation Okeechobee fisherman, asked the crowd. "Anything? Anything to indicate there's even a slight decrease in the Florida softshell turtle?"
Eckerd College biologist Peter Meylan, who studies the softshell turtle, used the same argument to support a ban.
Erring on the safe side for an important native species makes more sense than protecting the livelihood of no more than 300 fisherman who hunt turtles.
"The simple solution, the cost-effective solution, the easily enforceable solution is, let's bring this thing to a close," he said.
Times staff writer Craig Pittman contributed to this report. Justin George can be reached at (813) 226-3368 or jgeorge@sptimes.com.
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Comments on this article
by Pat
Nov 24, 2008 8:44 PM
This is great news. A number of other states, notably Texas, have already acted to protect their turtle populations. I'm glad Florida is finally getting its act together about this situation before it's too late.
by eric
Nov 23, 2008 8:10 AM
Kudos to Gov. Crist! We've been pushing for a similar ban in California. Necropsies have shown E. coli, salmonella, pasturella, giardia, even 1 case of malaria. We need a total ban on ALL commercial trade before we lose an entire family of animals.
by david
Nov 23, 2008 7:45 AM
The best way to help wildlife in florida is to stop development.Land and habitat are not a renuable resource, but the turtles are.
by Wrigley
Nov 21, 2008 7:36 PM
So glad to see the governor step up to the plate on this, just like he stepped in to stop the manatees from being delisted by the FWC. The FWC needs to remember that one of their most important duties is to preserve Florida wildlife.
by JustJenny
Nov 21, 2008 7:31 PM
Bravo...go Charlie,go Charlie, we love ya.Save the turtles, hell with China, keep our resources, save the turtles,go Charlie!!
by Dale
Nov 21, 2008 7:30 PM
Hey Charlie you may even get my vote if you keep this up!!Good job!!On top of the fines....there should be jail time if caught...do the crime do the time....6 months for 1st time,1 year for 2nd & for capital punishment for the learning impaired!!
by David
Nov 21, 2008 7:30 PM
Without data, the Gov made the right choice. Let the fishers find out about the repoductive cycle, % of hatchling that make it to maturity, life span, etc. and then propose a livable solution to this possible farm-able animal (like our fish farms)
by Adam
Nov 21, 2008 6:13 PM
If you have to kill animals to make a living, the you probably should have studied a little harder in school.
by John
Nov 21, 2008 6:13 PM
I support Christ 100% on this. China is overpopulated, let them eat each other, not our turltles.
by luis
Nov 21, 2008 6:11 PM
Same old conflict...man vs. nature,and nature always seems to get the bad end. Hopefully, we are starting to finally learn to protect nature. The answer is to farm turles, or whatever other species, so that nature is preserved; Stop destroying nature
by Jay
Nov 21, 2008 6:11 PM
This may be the first smart thing Christ had done...except for extending the early voting hours helping FL go blue! And man what a great tan....
by Ed
Nov 21, 2008 6:11 PM
Where was the Fish and Wildlife commission all this time? Playing with their new SWAT Team or telling kids to change the State bird to a bird of prey.
by nicholas
Nov 21, 2008 6:07 PM
put these low life , so called humans out of business , get a job you low lifes , and take these duck hunting low lifes with you
by Matt
Nov 21, 2008 6:02 PM
I knew I voted for this guy for a reason. CC - PLEASE make this ban happen!!!! And go the extra mile and look into protecting more and more and more....
by linda
Nov 21, 2008 6:01 PM
these are the kind of people society doesnt need , anything for money , shame on all of you , why wait for a study , ban this cruel treatment , ask the taxpayers what they favor after all we are the people , not this minority who refuses tro work for
by JackSheet
Nov 21, 2008 6:00 PM
The article states no side can be proven and then states that the species isn't threatened. Poor reporting right there. The species is obviously threatened. All it takes is a little common sense. Maybe the reporter should read their own first.
by Jim
Nov 21, 2008 5:57 PM
Yes, lets rely on Charlie's OPINION with no supporting data to make decisions, in fact lets do this for every decision we make. You have no idea what a slippery slope that is.
by Sandie
Nov 21, 2008 5:54 PM
BAN the 'harvesting' of turtles!
It is disgusting how many species are depleted because of their 'food & medical' properties.
Yay for Gov. Christ! As for the people who fish the turtles - your day is done. Sorry - but it's a question of ETHICS.
by Scott
Nov 21, 2008 5:46 PM
The commercial exploitation of wild stocks of fish or animals is never viable in the long term. Individuals, however, have been using limited harvesting of fish, and other wildlife with no ill effect for those species. The key is good management.
by chris
Nov 21, 2008 7:25 AM
I am glad Gov.Christ wants a complete ban! Hooray for nature! Long live the turtles!
by Kenneth
Nov 21, 2008 7:25 AM
Good call Charlie! I'm starting to like him more and more each day - protect our native species from trailer trash trying to make an easy buck!
by Tommy
Nov 21, 2008 7:24 AM
Gov. Crist takes another great, important leadership stance; that is why he is so popular with the populace.
by mike beau
Nov 21, 2008 7:24 AM
glad to see crist step up. our natural resource is being shipped to china.
by Stefan
Nov 21, 2008 7:24 AM
Same old Florida story. Some irresponsible people are killing the wildlife - for $ 3000 a week. They see it as their right. Levi, I'd rather see you loose your house then my children loosing the chance to grow up in undestroyed Florida - with Turtles
by Erick
Nov 21, 2008 7:24 AM
It's far better to be safe than sorry. Ecosystems are far to complicated to risk losing a species. Good call by Gov. Crist.
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