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TOWN 'N COUNTRY — An apartment complex at W Hillsborough Avenue and Countryway Boulevard is going condo and — well — clothing-optional.
The Eden, on its Web site, says it will soon allow nudity in a "private European/South Beach style swimming pool and spa area."
That might fly in central Pasco, home of Caliente, Paradise Lakes and other nudist resorts.
But that's not necessarily cool in Westchase, the manicured, family-friendly community just north of the Eden. One concerned homeowner, who declined to be quoted, sent an e-mail to that effect that is making the rounds among leaders of the taxing district and the Westchase Community Association.
Another resident, who could not be reached for comment, has consulted Hillsborough County offices to see if Eden has the right permits. The complex is about a mile from Alonso High School.
Former homeowner president Brian Ross learned the news from a St. Petersburg Times reporter, and he wasn't happy.
"It would seem to me that the process has failed in that there has not been greater notification to the surrounding communities about this possibility," Ross said.
County officials were unavailable for comment on Tuesday as government offices were closed because of Tropical Storm Fay.
But Debbie Carter, spokeswoman for the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, said the complex does not appear to be breaking any laws. "It looks like they're taking every necessary precaution," she said. "They're going to have walls and everything else. Unless they're committing crimes out there, I don't see this as a law enforcement issue."
Ashley Norman, who handles publicity for the Eden, said "intense landscaping changes" are under way to ensure the pool and the nudists "will be completely secluded." Only residents older than 18 will be issued pass keys to enter. "So it's not going to be an open area," she said.
Public sex will not be allowed.
Still, Ross said, "I personally am strongly opposed to it."
Condo officials say the Westchase homeowners need not worry about property values.
"If their concern is how this amenity will affect their community, on a real estate level, it'll only help increase the traffic and interest for all neighboring communities," said the Eden project manager Peter Mead.
Neither Mead nor Norman knew how many condos had been sold as of Tuesday, but the buzz has been strong, they said. They say they have received inquiries from around the country and abroad about the units, which range from $170,000 to $380,000.
At least one Westchase official was unfazed by his community's prospective neighbor. "If someone wanted to have nude swimming at a private condominium at Hillsborough and Countryway, it really wouldn't bother me in the least," said Greg Chesney, the chairman of Westchase's taxing district. "It's not a part of our community. It's their business."
Rodney Thrash can be reached at rthrash@sptimes.com or (813) 269-5303.
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Comments on this article
by Greg
Aug 21, 2008 8:52 PM
Amy, I think you are fried! The location of the high schools is COMPLETELY irrelevant...although maybe a benefit to kids because they may be exposed to something open minded rather than close minded folks such as yourself.
by Joe
Aug 21, 2008 3:30 PM
Amy: You're right. The perv molecules will escape and go directly NE to the high school, driving all the otherwise naive children into a frenzy of wild unprotected sex with resulting mass pregancy.
by NUDDHA
Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM
Why should modesty be enforced? The State has no more right to tell us that "We must remain clothed" than to order us to strip on the spot! Freedom of speech includes FASHION STATEMENTS, however abrievated! Viva UNINHIBITIONISTS!
by Tom
Aug 21, 2008 12:03 PM
It's just a clothing optional pool! Looking at the photos suggests a nudist clubhouse, nightclub and maybe a restaurant. No that's an upscale resort like Caliente; this is nudism for marketing purposes only.
by Amy
Aug 21, 2008 12:03 PM
James...High School nearby...relevent to the article???
HELLO.....Fay has you fried
by Sal
Aug 21, 2008 12:03 PM
It's nice to see these types finally spreading about the area. I'm sick of the concentration of nude people in Pasco. (especially those sun weatherd old hags in skimpy clothes I always see at local businesses)
by Jason
Aug 21, 2008 12:03 PM
As long as any nude swimmers/sunbathers are blocked from being viewed from beyond condo property, then there is no reason for concern.
by Sedona
Aug 21, 2008 12:02 PM
This guy Brian Ross needs to mind his business and stop trying to impose his moral will on other people. What occurs on PRIVATE property is none of his business.
by Bill Pennington
Aug 21, 2008 12:02 PM
Social nudity is healthy. We're all just human bodies. All of us came from human bodies, God's most beautiful creation, and He was pleased with what He saw. Hence, there can be nothing obscene or offensive about what we all are - just human bodies.
by Mavis
Aug 21, 2008 12:02 PM
Naturist looks like you and I and come from all walks of life. You will find it to be a relaxing lifestyle that is free of the daily stress we all experience. Naturist groups like naturistmingle.comare looking for people who are open minded and want
by laura
Aug 21, 2008 8:31 AM
the real reason that they're all nudists is that they can't afford clothes after paying the exorbitant westchase association fees
by Bill
Aug 20, 2008 4:23 PM
I bet everyone thinks it will turn into a swingers playground. Because we all know that if your a nudist you must be a swinger. Oh god forbid the neighbors see anything. And they will try. They are just jealous for not thinking of it first
by Perry
Aug 20, 2008 11:56 AM
Clearly most people could care less about this story. So unless the residents of this place start streaking naked around the neighborhood, this is issue wouldn't even bother Anita Bryant!
by Jennifer
Aug 20, 2008 11:55 AM
I wonder how many of these people skinny dip in their own pools - what's the difference?
by Jeff
Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM
Gotta love how the website shows GQ style and Playboy playmate type models. You know only fat, ugly, ape hair-like people will end up living there running around in the buff. LMAO.
by SP
Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM
Why does this story even mention Westchase? The closest neighborhood to the condos is Countryway. Did you think to interview anyone in Countryway? They will be more affected by the situation.
by jackie o
Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM
Best to keep the nudists and the nettles separate. Sure to cause an outbreak of rash complaints.
by Kenneth
Aug 20, 2008 10:13 AM
I like how their website shows these young, hot, 20-somethings lounging by the pool. If it's like every other naturist locale in the state, the real tenants will be overweight hippies in their 60s - and an assortment of registered sex offenders.
by Chip
Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM
You can bet the most vocal and self-righteous will be the first ones scamming to get a view of the women without clothes.
by Charlie
Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM
I wouldn't get in that pool.
by James
Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM
"The complex is about a mile from Alonso High School." Help me out here. How is this sentence relevant to the article?
by David
Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM
So do these folks in Westchase think that there is no nude swimming and sunbathing going on at their neighbor's pools? Come on now. What they do on their property is their business.
by H man
Aug 20, 2008 10:12 AM
Relax. Uptight religious freaks.
by Paul
Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM
Who cares what your neighbors do in THEIR pool. For crying out loud, stop telling others how to live according to your morals. Ross needs to smoke a doobie and chill out.
by Harold
Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM
Brian Ross should learn to mind his own business. If he doesn't like this, stay out and don't look. Why does he think he is the only one with rights to tell others what to do?
by born nekkid
Aug 20, 2008 10:11 AM
egad our society has such frumps. I abhor clothes. When living rural is was no big deal to be naked when swimming, so long as one didnt act out in lewd or lacivious ways. Lighten up people. Dont look if you dont like it,
it's only skin.
by Mike
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
What are you talking about? This isn't even close to Westchase!
by Christine
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
Nudity isn't about sexuality and usually they have rules that if a man does become aroused he has to leave. Those that complain are the uptight zealots who are the do as I say not as I do types that are usually doing something far worse in private.
by Lee
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
Why woudl someone be opposed to someone swimming or sunbathing nude in the privacy and seclusion of their own property?????? It IS their own business! Leave them alone!!!
by LDH
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
"Public sex will not be allowed." Oh boy, did that even have to be reiterated to these people? If so, then 'Tampa, we have a problem'!
by Linda
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
What does anyone care if the area is properly secluded??? Same with smoking - in your own home or car - it's your business. Some people just have to be busybodies and force their opinions & lifestyle on everyone else. Not me!!!
by Greg
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
People need to chill out...if you don't like it, don't buy there! Very simple.
by Chris
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
Where do I sign up? I recall seeing lots of lovely looking ladies in Westchase. College age, I hope...
by cia
Aug 20, 2008 10:10 AM
Problem is there's always a few sneaky pervs in the crowd, therefore, 18 is too young. Another problem, what about the chairs, is it bring your own or take a chance on a clean one?
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