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ST. PETERSBURG — People are bringing up Albert Whitted Airport again, and this time they're talking about a baseball stadium.
It's owned by the city. It's losing money. It's on the water. It won't be confused as a park.
In fact, at 110 acres, Albert Whitted has everything Al Lang Field lacked as a prospective home of the Tampa Bay Rays. There could even be room for parking garages.
But could it really be an option?
"I've heard it suggested more than I thought I would," said Jeff Lyash, the Progress Energy executive who leads the community group studying sites for a ballpark. "I expected, given the controversy, I wouldn't hear that one at all."
Lyash's group, formally called A Baseball Community, hasn't begun to evaluate specific sites. And it's unclear how much vetting Albert Whitted will receive.
But airport activists are bristling that it's even being mentioned.
The idea of a new stadium "already has got people in the city and the surrounding area upset," said aviator Jack Tunstill, one of Albert Whitted's strongest supporters. "Now they want to add this to it. These people have no comprehension of what they're talking about."
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Albert Whitted Airport has been targeted before.
In 2002 and 2003, the city considered plans to either close the airport or eliminate one of its two runways. In both scenarios, the airport property — which sits on a man-made peninsula jutting into Tampa Bay — would become a city park and residential neighborhood.
Voters instead overwhelmingly chose to preserve the airport "forever" by amending the city charter.
But the ballot initiative was not necessarily overwhelming; nor was it forever.
Out of 172,000 registered city voters, a little over 35,000 actually voted on the charter amendment, and about 26,000 favored it. It would simply take another city vote to reverse course.
Add to the story a new multimillion-dollar terminal building that has not found a tenant for its restaurant space, and a flailing local economy. The airport, which is supposed to cover its own costs, required a $434,000 city subsidy this year and more than $2.2-million since 2003.
Airport critics often describe it as a publicly financed luxury, as it is rarely used by the public.
"It would be an incredible place for a stadium," said Paul Fenton, a Rays season ticket holder for the past three seasons. "They almost closed it before. They can almost close it again."
But turning a nearly 80-year-old airfield into a baseball stadium would not be easy.
Practically. Or politically.
The city opened its $4-million terminal a year ago and is expected to break ground on a $2.2-million control tower next year. Scrapping either facility would be a major change, of course.
Moreover, the Federal Aviation Administration says it would not allow it.
The FAA has poured almost $50-million into airport improvements in recent years, and the city couldn't just pay that back, says FAA official Rusty Chapman. Each grant obligates the city to another 20 years of airport operations, though some people suggest that the FAA could be swayed.
Any change would also require the approval of city voters.
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What if the city recycles the idea of closing one runway?
Albert Whitted has two runways, one that runs east-west and another north-south.
Closing either creates challenges.
The east-west runway is used for the Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg and also is linked to the new terminal building. It fields 70 percent of the airport's 80,000 yearly takeoffs and landings, said city airport manager Rich Lezniak.
The north-south runway sits at the eastern edge of the airport property. Closing it could save the Grand Prix and the bulk of flights, but building a stadium there might make little sense.
A stadium, if the FAA would sign off, would be bordered by Tampa Bay to the east, the airport to the north and west, and a city sewage treatment facility to the south. Removing the sewage treatment plant would cost $55-million to $65-million, according to a 2002 city study.
"It's always the politicians and their friends who happen to be real estate people who want the property," said Don Morris, a longtime airport supporter who keeps a plane at Albert Whitted. "But the citizens were very clear. They want it there as an airport."
Mayor Rick Baker agrees. Baker, who in his first term proposed closing one of the runways, said there are too many hurdles to seriously consider the airport as a site for a baseball stadium.
"I don't think that Albert Whitted is a viable option," he said.
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Comments on this article
by Gene
Nov 21, 2008 7:46 PM
The stadium should be rebuilt upon its present location where all the highway infrastructure is in place to support the traffic. Alongside should be a Convention Center and Convention Hotel. The airport is well positioned to support those entities.
by Dave
Nov 21, 2008 7:35 PM
The Rays have a stadium! and parking! If you want to improve it do it there! Albert Whitted needs to stay an airport and the citizens have spoken! We don't need another stadium or another condo. Leave Albert Whitted alone!!!!!!!!!!!!
by robert
Nov 21, 2008 7:29 PM
Originally the entire dome project was rammed down the throats of the St pete taxpayer by corrupt politicians and real estate scumbags..I say let Al lang stand with improvements and let the illustrious team play there as it is..A unique HISTORIC park
by PAUL
Nov 21, 2008 7:29 PM
Commenting on this story is a waste of time. Our opinion means nothing to our elected officials. This deal will b e done behind closed doors (as usual).
Wasn't the dome deal handled that way?
by Terry
Nov 21, 2008 7:27 PM
are these people crazy? how much money will a new stadium cost the city we could barely fill the dome in the world seris...who will pay for the new stadium when the rays can't draw substanial crowds then move...we can not afford this, now or ever
by Stephen
Nov 21, 2008 6:12 PM
Yes, close the airport. Why should we pay for this toy for the rich? Put condos there, or better yet, a baseball stadium. The waterfront belongs to the people of St. Petersburg, not the rich old farts who live downtown. Let the people come.
by Lulu
Nov 21, 2008 6:12 PM
Mis-management of the airport doesn't mean it should close down and make way for an overpriced unneeded baseball park. Every business and person is feeling the effects of the economy lately but it's no reason to shut down! This idea has got to go!!
by Pete
Nov 21, 2008 6:12 PM
Andrew, talk about idiots that kid departed from Stpete/clw(KPIE) not whitted. get your facts straight
by ken w stephens sr
Nov 21, 2008 6:11 PM
i think no way for baseball field noway this airport is land mark we want keep that way you tell rays keep dome lave a lone there statoms notthing wrong with it tell baker noway
by guillaume
Nov 21, 2008 6:06 PM
you should understand that, even if we are in tough economic times, a new baseball stadium can bring employment, and economy... this tough time will stop sometime... it is not the end of the world also... .
by Jay
Nov 21, 2008 6:03 PM
Downtown St. Pete? Get real. How about at the Derby Lanes? And how about the Rays pay for it themselves! Yes, Go Rays! I'll come there to watch as long as there is AC.
by Alan
Nov 21, 2008 6:03 PM
I do not understand the children that own the Rays. The summers are HOT & WET in St Petersburg and the dome is covered and air conditioned. Why would anyone with common sense expect people to buy tickets to be outside in the heat and rain?
by Rob
Nov 21, 2008 6:01 PM
Leave the Airport alone. No need for a stadium there.
by Doc
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
You have got to be kidding... How many more silly ideas will ABC come up with...We need a group who will look at the stadium issue with some common sense, not those with specific vested interests.
by Terry
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
This is just noise that the Times needs to desperately sell their newspaper....once the Times goes out of business, the Rays can level their buildings and move right there. You'd have better luck trying to level Rick Baker's house than the airport..
by Pete
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING BASEBALL STADIUM IN THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES? DON'T YOU REALIZE WE'RE ALL HURTING THESE DAYS? BASEBALL IS RECREATION.WE NEED BASIC SERVICES, HOUSING, LAW ENFORCEMENT & JUDICIAL SERVICES. SHUT UP WITH THIS BASEBALL FLUFF!!!
by Tom
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
The airport will always be in St. Pete, the baseball team won't.
by Peter M
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
How can we even consider investing in a new stadium under theese economic circumstances.
by Sweet Sue
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
Ground the airport for fly balls... Great idea! I'd much rather look at a baseball stadium while eating chicken wings at The Pier.
by Patricia
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
I guess they will do anything to sell papers.I finally had to move out of St.Petersburg. Couldn't take the politics anymore.
by Big Pauly
Nov 21, 2008 7:12 AM
If the Trop is not viable...then downtown St. Pete is even less viable. Look at northeast St. Pete, all that area off of 686, 688 by I-275, 4th and 9th Street. That's where St. Pete needs to look, maybe get Pinellas county in on the deal.
by Tom
Nov 21, 2008 7:11 AM
...the bsllot initiative was not overwhelming? Since when is a 75 to 25 percent majority NOT overwhelming. This is news to no one but the Times reporter that hasn't done his homework. If you want prime downtown real estate, use the Poynter Institute.
by Justin E
Nov 20, 2008 8:42 PM
No ones suggesting it, but could Sharockman's house be a viable location for a new stadium? Critics say its too small and Sharockman himself says its out of the question. But still, the possibility is worth mentioning (if it sells papers).
by Kenneth
Nov 20, 2008 8:17 PM
Erice - if St. Pete/Clearwater is so underused, how come it took me 30-minutes to take-off yesterday in my Cessna? Waiting for airline, corporate, and general aviation aircraft that frequent the field - that's why. Keep your ignorant mouths closed.
by Lou
Nov 20, 2008 8:16 PM
It truely must be a slow day for real news. That airport is a real jewel and used by many persons ([PUBLIC!!!). Let Scharockman go bark up another tree for excitement.
by RICK
Nov 20, 2008 8:15 PM
Way to costly to put a stadium at Albert Whitted.I don't fly and probaly will never use this airport , but my family an I do lunch at cha-chas on top of the pier just to watch the planes coming and going quite a lot ,and we love it.
by rick again
Nov 20, 2008 8:15 PM
The rays are doing very well where they are and its costing us nothing,move em and you with put the Jinx on them.Also in these dire times just the idea of a new stadium with even part taxpayers cash should be shelved for at least a few years.
by Mike
Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM
Aaron you will never win with the SP folks. It is painfully obvious that the only thing that will settle the SP area residents is to move the team all together.Once upon a time the city wanted a team but not anymore. Even if the Rays paid in full.SAD
by Susan
Nov 20, 2008 6:55 PM
Problems SOLVED!!! Tropicana Field...
Keep it..good rain OR shine! Good parking...Fix what's broken with alll that money that's burning a hole in your pockets! Let's move on...KEEP the TROP!!!
by erice
Nov 20, 2008 6:51 PM
This is exactly where the stadium shoud go! Reroute the air traffic to the underused stpete-clw airport and build a retractable roof stadium rite on the water with a parking garage.
This airports a waste when the airport in clw is underused.
by jacky
Nov 20, 2008 6:50 PM
"Albert Whitted Airport has been targeted before."You bet it has,specifically by the Times/Poynter machine.Their shockingly biased coverage during the 2002-2003 Albert Whitted fight made me cancel my subscription. Let it go already, you greedy jerks!
by Terry
Nov 20, 2008 6:49 PM
FAA Rules clearly require the airport to stay open 20 years after receiving any Federal $$...that's 2028, SPTimes Owners...
by Terry
Nov 20, 2008 6:48 PM
What a blatently self-serving article by the St. Pete Times! Their smear campaign of the airport - in a shameless attempt to get 'waterfront property status' for their own building was crushed by the voters 4 years ago....but they don't care.
by mo
Nov 20, 2008 6:47 PM
YOU GUYS DONT DESERVE A WORLD CLASS ORGANIZATION
by Robert
Nov 20, 2008 6:47 PM
Let see. If we get clobbered by a hurricane, which will we need the most? An open air stadium, or a close by airport to bring in supplies?
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