Testing Grounds The latest industry being outsourced to India is clinical drug trials. And any number of tragic things can happen on the way to your medicine cabinet.
Friday Night Rewind It doesn't matter which team you cheer for. We've got video previews of every high school football program in Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco and Hernando County.
From a seat in front of the Starbucks at First Avenue N and Second Street in St. Petersburg, you can often hear street musicians like Steve Johnson. The scene is on the route between the Coliseum and the proposed stadium, a 29-minute walk that on a late weeknight included ATMs, a quiet BayWalk and a smattering of homeless people.
The AAA parking lot is one potential place where Tampa Bay Rays fans could park and walk to the proposed new Rays home in roughly 20 minutes. Tropicana Field can be seen just west of the lot.
Hathaway Russell treats herself to a pedicure at New York Nails at the University Village plaza. The Publix-anchored shopping center offers all manner of diversions en route to Progress Energy Park.
ST. PETERSBURG — To deal with the lack of parking at Progress Energy Field, Tampa Bay Rays management has suggested that people going to baseball games could conveniently park all over the city. The St. Petersburg Times had a few reporters walk some of the proposed routes to the proposed stadium. This is what they found along the way.
Route 1, Dagny's walk
6 p.m., Dolphin Lot at the Pier, Second Avenue NE.
The parking lot was emptier than I expected as I pulled into the Dolphin Lot on Second Ave NE. I paid $3 to get in and received an events listing for the Pier. Flipping through, I saw I could be distracted by the opportunity to ride a "unique 2-4-6 seater bike" around town. That would just look weird with one person.
Before I started my walk, I sat in my rapidly heating car trying to shake my pedometer into working. Somehow it had acquired some bogus numbers and it was reluctant to go back to zero.
Stepping into the strong, salty smell of the bay and the rolling waves of humidity, the beach looked like a good bet. I did see a sign for a free trolley to the Pier. I was hungry, but did I really want to get lost in one of those tourist shops where everything has a shell on it? No, thanks. More lot details: no alcohol, overnight parking, loitering or boat trailers permitted inside. Looks like tailgating won't be allowed in this lot.
I set off west on Second Avenue NE. There was almost no one out as I passed by the Museum of History. It closes daily at 5 p.m. and is closed on Monday. So nix ditching a game for high culture. Oh, well.
Crouching on the sidewalk near the museum were two middle-aged men. I had seen one of them before; he sells colorful painted prints for $3, but I had never stopped to buy any. Would sports fans? After explaining what I was doing, one of the men, Charlie Riley, a cruising yachter, started ranting about how nobody wants the ballpark except for the bars that will profit from it. The white-haired man peering from behind the prints stand was Dino Taos. He had been selling prints for about four months and didn't think that more baseball fans walking by would help his business. "I doubt it," he said. "Sports fans aren't interested. Half the people around here are homeless anyway. They ain't got nothing."
I spotted a public restroom at Bayshore Drive and Second Avenue NE. Made of bricks, it bears a carved label: "comfort station."
I crossed Second Avenue NE and entered Fresco's, which bills itself as a waterfront bistro. Music drifting out its doors, Fresco's has an outdoor tropical decor looking out onto the marina. The manager, Marcus Frazier, said the restrooms are for customers only, but points to the public one across the street. Fresco's offers a happy hour from 4 to 7 p.m. and a "to go" menu that Frazier says takes 10 to 15 minutes. Drinks and appetizers would take around 30 minutes. Before I left, Frazier pointed out the restaurant's pro-ballpark sign.
I continued southwest, crossing Beach Drive SE at Central Avenue. I backtracked a bit on the other side of the road where the shops are and entered Mickey's Kork and Kleaver, a nice deli/convenience store. I was told there's no restroom on site but was directed to the Hampton Inn at First Avenue NE and Beach Drive.
At the hotel, I was quickly told where the restroom is. Great. Plus, there's air-conditioning.
I walked south on Beach Drive and entered Ceviche, at the corner of Central Avenue. Ceviche will soon feature a happy hour, manager Steven Vassallo told me. Restroom use is limited to customers, but one can easily enjoy drinks and appetizers in 15 to 20 minutes. Down Central Avenue sits Pincho y Pincho, the smaller venue owned by the same company.
I passed Bayfront Towers and noted an anti-ballpark sign.
I reached Pioneer Park and then crossed Bayshore. It's a scenic walk along the waterfront, but the humidity is unbearable.
I arrived in front of Progress Energy Park. Made it. The sun was still out and I felt gross after having wandered around the area for more than an hour in my work clothes. Bad idea. Time to walk back to the car. I returned north on Bayshore.
This time I didn't stop anywhere, making it back to my lonely car in about 12 minutes.
Route 2, Kyle's walk
1:12 p.m., AAA South building, Eighth Street and Second Avenue S
My task was simple.
Walk.
Sure, it was 90 degrees. But it was only seven blocks.
As I arrived at my starting point, Eighth Street and Second Avenue S, just blocks from Tropicana Field, I took advantage of a shaded area to assess the situation.
Lots of sun.
No breeze.
I opted not to bring water or sunscreen, so I decided shade would be key. The sidewalk on the south side of Second Avenue seemed the best option.
I set out toward the bay at 1:12 p.m., walking at a comfortable pace.
As I passed attorneys' offices, graphics companies and the YWCA, I realized quickly that there wasn't much shade on either side of the street, just a small tree here or there. As I stood at Sixth Street waiting for the first stoplight I encountered, I realized that my 6-4, 250-pound frame was getting a little moist.
As I reached the stoplight at Fifth Street, drops of sweat were running down my face. It was hot. Luckily, just across the intersection I spied the first real shade, a stretch at the Times that covered most of a block. Crossing Fifth Street, my pace slowed.
Waiting to cross Fourth Street, the landscape was dotted with banks. If you need to grab some cash for the game, there are five ATMs within half a block of this route.
Upon reaching Third Street, I turned right into an oasis — the Publix shopping center. The grocery offers the chance to grab something to quench your thirst, a snack and air conditioning. Outside the store there is another bit of shade if you hug the Publix building.
The shopping center offers a bevy of pregame possibilities.
In need of a pregame meal? A Chinese restaurant and Subway stand ready. A liquor store provides tailgating options. There is a CVS drugstore just across the street.
Back pain? Try the chiropractor. Get a haircut. If the wife or girlfriend isn't a Rays fan there is a Curves health club for women and a place to get a manicure. You can even drop off your dry cleaning and get some vitamins.
Signs in the UPS store window tout its passport photo and notary services.
Returning to Second Avenue, the final block of the trek again was tree-lined, allowing a last bit of shade before arriving at the stadium site at 1:31 p.m.
At the end, it wasn't a bad walk. There was no sunburn, but I suspect my co-workers wished I'd brought some extra deodorant.
Time: 19 minutes.
Route 3, Eddie's walk
10:25 p.m., the Coliseum, 535 Fourth Ave. N
It was just after 9 p.m. as lightning made the night sky flicker. Thunder followed seconds later in the distance. Typical late spring weather.
I could imagine it was almost the seventh inning of a big-league baseball game somewhere. Maybe even a Tampa Bay Rays game? With the iffy weather, my first thought was to call my own rain delay.
But the rain did not arrive, and this simulated walk from the site of the Rays' proposed new stadium to the Coliseum, where I had parked my car, was nonnegotiable.
Rays officials estimate that it will take fans 25 minutes to make it from the stadium to the Coliseum parking lot.
I milled around downtown for a while until I started my walk at 10:25 p.m., a realistic ending time for a baseball game.
The stroll started pleasantly. Walking north on First Street SE, the lights of Ceviche Tapas Bar & Restaurant at the Ponce De Leon Hotel are a fan's first sign after leaving the stadium, though at this hour customers were few and waiters were busing the outdoor tables of the restaurant at First Street SE and Central Avenue.
No worries, however, as I had one eye on the sky and the other on the lookout for an open shop or restaurant.
I noticed the first ATM at First Avenue N and First Street N, about four blocks from the stadium. This would be a chance for a fan to grab some cash for a drink or snack cheaper than stadium food.
I turned due west on First Avenue N and passed a Starbucks a block from the ATM. Thank goodness for America's coffee craving. I stopped for two or three minutes to buy a bottle of water and use the restroom.
By now it was 10:42 p.m. I decided to travel north on Second Street instead of farther on First Avenue N. The lighting parallel with BayWalk along Second Street is more comforting. A few people were on the street, and I easily spotted two more ATMs. The music from a BayWalk bar drew me near until I noticed no roar of bargoers chatting. It was definitely a slow night downtown.
I proceeded past BayWalk and turned left to head west on Third Avenue N. My concern shifted from socializing spots to sketchiness for the remainder of my walk.
The sidewalks began to give way to the grim shadows of the night, and the slightest sounds became amplified. My walk west on Third Avenue N brought me back to the reality. My thoughts of where to buy food or disappointment that no one was at a BayWalk bar became minute.
As I crossed Third Street N, a homeless man's cough alerted me of his presence. He and two others were nestled under a building's ledge away from the threat of rain and away from mainstream life in general. Three more homeless people were behind the same building. There were no words or attempts of panhandling, just eye contact that seemed to wish things were different.
Walking from a baseball game, this was the last interaction I anticipated, which made me wonder if a new stadium would provide a few more jobs to boost the city's economy or if the gentrification of downtown would simply sweep the homeless further out of sight.
Now almost back to the Coliseum, I turned north on Fourth Street N past the Courtyard by Marriott Hotel. I knew that my walk was nearing its end. I turned west on Fourth Avenue N, walking against one-way traffic and arrived at the poorly lit Coliseum parking lot.
Time: 29 minutes.
[Last modified: Jun 20, 2008 12:23 PM]
Comments on this article
by taylor
Jun 20, 2008 12:23 PM
gas prices are not going down, whether we like it or not. time to start making our city more pedestrian/bike/transit?friendly.
by Belle
Jun 19, 2008 5:58 PM
I like the new plans for Trop. Field, and the look of the plans for the new stadium but right now St Pete just has too many more pressing needs for the money!
by Belle
Jun 19, 2008 5:51 PM
Why can't they build the ballpark futher out so they have adequite room for parking? There are more sites available, right? Well lighted, safe, close parking would be more likely to encourage participation.
by Belle
Jun 19, 2008 5:50 PM
Walking downtown is not safe unless you are in a crowd, and I for sure wouldn't stop at an ATM even then! I won't even go to a movie at Baywalk by myself because you have to go through the parking garage at night.
by Belle
Jun 19, 2008 5:49 PM
I and several other retired friends think that a 20 min. walk in the hot sun is not feasable for older adults. We and a lot of St. Pete residents have health problems that won't allow us to do that. Trop Field is much better for us.
by Robb
Jun 19, 2008 9:42 AM
What do you people who do not want the new stadium want to do with Progress Energy, and how much would it cost?
by robb
Jun 19, 2008 9:42 AM
get a taxi
by Olivia
Jun 17, 2008 9:55 PM
We happen to live in the lightening capital of the U.S. and since baseball season coincides with "storm season" leaving us to wander from parking to stadium, is NOT a good plan. We need on site parking with safe access to the stadium.
by Stephen
Jun 17, 2008 8:46 AM
In DC they have a similar problem with their new stadium. There is very little parking. They have an advantage though in that there's a subway stop right there. They also have buses that have a reserved route from RFK (old stadium) - 5 minutes.
by SYLVIA
Jun 16, 2008 2:21 PM
These walks are fine, but now imagine it's 11 PM, the kids are tired and cranky, your back hurts, mom's feet are sore,and after finally relocating the car,the oneway residential streets are nearly gridlocked. This trip won't be repeated!
by tim
Jun 16, 2008 11:33 AM
Hey, if you're going to sit in the sweltering sun during the game, you might as well get acclimated to it during your 10 block walk to the stadium. The old folks are gonna love it!
by tim
Jun 16, 2008 11:33 AM
Hey, if you're going to sit in the sweltering sun during the game, you might as well get acclimated to it during your 10 block walk to the stadium. The old folks are gonna love it!
by pop
Jun 16, 2008 11:33 AM
the new stadium the rays want to build has not enough parking which will meam walking a great distance to the games weather permitting I believe they should think of building the stadium in tampa where it was suppose to be built in the first place pop
by Jill
Jun 16, 2008 11:33 AM
I love baseball & the Rays but Ray managers & owners are acting like spoiled brats that 'want' something no matter what. St. Petersburg government is trying to stop their crying out of fear of losing them? New stadium, look for better land options.
by JOHN
Jun 16, 2008 11:32 AM
I have been against the new stadium from the beginning and when I attended the game last night, I was further convienced of the STUPITY of this proposal. $10 for Parking, All lots full, Street parking restricted, and a walk for free parking 29 mins.
by Dave
Jun 16, 2008 11:20 AM
For all of you who are against a new stadium just remember without the revenue streams a properly constucted stadium will bring in the Rays will be gone! It's a shame all of Pinellas can't vote since it affects us all.
by David
Jun 16, 2008 10:46 AM
There are plenty of vacant or underperforming downtown parcels that, once the stadium is approved, developers will take the private initiative and build mixed-use type structures to support the crowds.
SUPPORT THE STADIUM.
by Dale
Jun 16, 2008 10:43 AM
Dean, when do the Rays ever play Atlanta?
Yeah, you are a baseball fan. A lot of people that have no clue what they're talking about seem to be getting into this debate. And it seems to be mostly on the "against" side
by Richard Simmons
Jun 16, 2008 10:43 AM
The laziness of these people amazes me. Get off your fat backsides and walk a couple blocks. They do it in other "major league" cities.
by Dave
Jun 15, 2008 8:37 AM
It amazes me that so many Floridians are terrified to go outside and walk around.
Ha, and you want to watch sports? Why, so you can even feel worse about how lazy you obviously are?
by Dominic
Jun 15, 2008 8:36 AM
Al Lang Field - bring good walking shoes. Easy on - easy off? Forget it!
by Dean
Jun 14, 2008 11:55 PM
The Trop does fill when the Yankees, Boston or Atlanta play. And the new smaller stadium will still hold 34-36K. With 11K available parking spaces (yah, right) & about 2 per car (after losing for 10 yrs I now go alone), we're 6-7K spaces short?
by Marco
Jun 14, 2008 11:17 PM
Interesting, only one person ran into sketchy people at 10pm at night? Area is dead after 5pm even Baywalk is losing business they have tons of cops. Plenty of dark areas for potential danger, thats why no one goes there now. Bad idea.
by jason
Jun 14, 2008 11:16 PM
Walking sure is horrible.
by Jill
Jun 14, 2008 11:16 PM
Just a thought-- the Looper trolley currently runs from the downtown lots to the Trop and is free to ride to the games. Don't you think they would have something similar to take fans from outlying lots to a new stadium?
by Holly
Jun 14, 2008 11:16 PM
Ok, you are all probably 25 years old. But being female and I go to the games alone and I am retired, bad knee and really not wanting to walk that far. Try this experiment at a time when there is something going on downtown like rib fest.
by Rodger
Jun 14, 2008 11:16 PM
Pound salt and take a hike: a fans experience
by Jack
Jun 14, 2008 11:14 PM
The idea of this un-airconditioned ball park is TOO STUPID to even comment about ! ! Baseball is a SUMMER SPORT THIS IS FLORIDA NOT MINNISOTA!!
by John
Jun 14, 2008 11:14 PM
I love baseball and get to quite a few games each year but I don't wan't to walk 29 minutes to see the Rays.
by David
Jun 14, 2008 11:14 PM
Only a few would walk all over town to attend a Rays game in summer heat and probable summer storms. Get real! The vast majority don't want the stadium. Stop shoving it down our throats.
by Elisabeth
Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM
Really, a story about a 12- to 29-minute walk? This is newsworthy? What a sad statement on American culture.
by Paul
Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM
Eddie goes to Starbucks? What are you nuts or do you not realize that right across the street is Angies Cafe and Joey Brooklyns? Now that's darn good food and cheap too. Eddie needs a local to show him around downtown. Coffee shouldn't cost 5 bucks.
by RE
Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM
This has to be one of dumbest things I have heard of. I am not surprised that the city is even considering it as their track record for 'stupid' is long. Walking in the heat to a non-airconditioned facility, sounds like fun to me! The Trop has AC!
by Chip
Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM
This is really starting to get silly. I can see a whole lot of No Parking signs going up around down town and the tow truck companys making a bundle. The Rays have had years to think this through and its obvious they haven't.
by Bob
Jun 14, 2008 11:13 PM
Imagine walking 12,19,or 29 minutes in the hot sun, then having to sit in a hot open air stadium. Tropicana Field's air conditioning seems all the more reason not to build a new statium.
Subscribe to the Times
Click here for daily delivery
of the St. Petersburg Times.