Today's paper | eEdition | Subscribe
The Truth-O-Meter
Latest print edition
St. Petersburg Times
Special report
  • Right by Miles
    Two teenage boys are in a car chase with a reckless, sexually perverted Polk County sheriff’s deputy. The boys crash, killing Miles White, 16. But the sheriff’s office does not investigate its deputy’s involvement. Why?
  • More special reports
Video report
  • Friday Night Rewind
    It doesn't matter which team you cheer for. We've got video previews of every high school football program in Hillsborough, Pinellas, Pasco and Hernando County.
  • More video reports
Multimedia report
  • Fall TV match-ups
    The networks try to catch viewers' attention after the writers strike, while cable channels go for a knockout blow by debuting new series at the same time. Let's see who the winners are.
  • More multimedia reports
Fill out this form to email this article to a friend
Your name Your email
Recipient email
You may enter up to 20 multiple email addresses, separated by commas.
Your message
Validation Code
Hear
validation
code
  Enter validation code

Suitors make first proposals for Tropicana project

By Aaron Sharockman, Times Staff Writer
In print: Wednesday, March 19, 2008


Social Bookmarking
Digg Facebook Stumbleupon
Reddit Del.icio.us Newsvine
ADVERTISEMENT
Related Links

ST. PETERSBURG — Three national developers submitted offers to redevelop Tropicana Field on Tuesday, with each wanting to build communities highlighted by major retail options, hundreds of homes and, potentially, more than 1,000 new jobs.

But none of the proposals fully answered a pressing question:

Can development of Tropicana Field finance two-thirds of a new $450-million waterfront stadium, as the Tampa Bay Rays say it must.

Of three bidders, only the group the Rays were working with — Hines Interests — was willing to say how much it would pay for the land: $50-million.

No purchase price was included in the other two bids from developers Archstone and Madison Marquette, and from a group made up of three entities including DeBartolo Holdings.

The sale of the 86-acre Tropicana site, along with the taxes generated by its redevelopment, are what the Rays are seeking to build a new waterfront stadium at Al Lang Field.

Now the Rays will build a finance plan. The city will try to make sense of bid documents that vary widely and are hundreds of pages thick.

The developers who submitted proposals to the city ahead of a 10 a.m. Tuesday deadline offered competing but similar visions for Tropicana Field.

All of the proposals relied heavily on either housing or retail components. Each envisioned a significant public park and capitalized off the small creek that runs through the site.

Hines' proposal included 855,000 square feet of retail space. The group said it expects to attract Crate & Barrel, Tommy Bahama, Whole Foods, Williams-Sonoma, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops and other retailers to a new community they're calling WestEnd St. Pete.

The most aggressive bid came from the partnership of Archstone and Madison Marquette, two nationally known developers from the Washington area. Their proposal, called EcoVerde, includes a total investment of $1.2-billion, including three hotels, nearly 2,000 rental units and more than 1-million square feet of new retail.

The third proposal, from a consortium that includes DeBartolo and two other developers, calls for a 4,000-unit rental community bordered by a grocery store, an office building and street-level retail options.

None of the potential developers would discuss their proposals publicly Tuesday.

City officials spent Tuesday trying to find ways to compare the offers.

It was difficult, said senior development administrator Rick Mussett, who hopes to make a recommendation to Mayor Rick Baker by April 23.

The sale and redevelopment could occur only if voters approve the Rays stadium plan. City Council members have not yet decided whether to schedule a November referendum.

"It's kind of encouraging to see this kind of development interest given the fact we don't even know if there will be a referendum on the ballot," said Mussett.

Added Baker: "Obviously, you always want to have bids to choose from. I know there was some doubt if we'd get multiple bids. I'm pleased we got three."

Financing questions

In its bid, Hines said the redevelopment of Tropicana Field would generate $858-million in new tax revenues over 35 years.

Under that scenario, some money would go to schools and other taxing districts, even potentially the city and county.

The Rays would hope to convert what's left to fund the construction of a new ballpark. The Rays say they are willing to pay $150-million toward construction, with the Tropicana redevelopment covering the rest.

Rays senior vice president Michael Kalt said the team hopes before June to have a more specific financing plan, based in part on what they learned from the three bids.

But new documents simultaneously released in City Hall on Tuesday paint a picture as to what money the Rays may be after.

City officials made public for the first time the remaining confidential documents related to the stadium and redevelopment proposal.

According to a Rays document prepared in fall 2007, the team thinks nearly $110-million can come from city and county property tax revenues generated by the Tropicana redevelopment. Another $110-million could come from the city and county's portions of new sales tax receipts.

Rays officials say the document, which includes several other possible funding sources, is just an accounting of all of the possibilities.

"It's a big complex puzzle where you might have 25 pieces, but only need 11 pieces to make the puzzle fit together," Kalt said.

Other documents released Tuesday detail the evolution of the Rays' proposal and their interactions with city officials.

The Rays met with at least five national developers about the potential Tropicana redevelopment before choosing Hines as a partner.

The team at one time considered including a 250-room hotel at the southwest corner of the Al Lang site, but scrapped the plan after realizing it would be too difficult.

The Rays also had early renderings that showed part of the stadium structure reaching out to and anchoring in the marina waters just east of the field.

"We did not want that to happen," Kalt said.

Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report. Aaron Sharockman can be reached at asharockman@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2273.


What's next

April 23: Staff recommendation to Mayor Rick Baker.

May 1: City Council vote.

May: Rays present financing package.

June 5: Council vote to schedule referendum.


[Last modified: Mar 23, 2008 06:02 PM]



Comments on this article
by Chad Mar 23, 2008 6:02 PM
The Rays need to build themselves a new stadium using their own money. Period. If you need help, ask MLB. We're in a recession, folks. This is pork. Unacceptable.
by Mike Mar 23, 2008 12:16 PM
Alvi, please stop the old worn out Tampa talk. Cross the bridges. TAMPA BAY includes St. Pete and south of the Skyway and Pasco, etc. Come over or don't come over - no one cares! By the way, the Trop is fine. It has parking, Al Lang doesn&#
by Bill Mar 21, 2008 3:06 PM
Right, Getsmart, you have it all figured out. National, reputable developers are going to accept money under the table from the Rays, and put their entire business operation at risk. Folks, either the $ will work or not. But if it does, we all win.
by Veej Mar 20, 2008 5:03 PM
There is STILL doubt, Mayor. Kathleen Ford was correct about the bidding process being tainted. The Rays stated publicly they had a "preferred developer" before the RFP was even written. Baker,your little statement does not negate the
by David Mar 20, 2008 9:58 AM
I am baffled by people writing in about this without having any concept of the facts. The Rays have invested heavily in the team this year, and a state of the art downtown stadium would be a huge draw for residents and tourism. Just like other places
by Gary Mar 20, 2008 9:36 AM
What a bunch cynical neanderthals providing their comments. Go sit on your GREEN BENCHES. If it were up to you all, this city would still be the deserted wasteland it was in the seventies. But please, Rays, air condition the new place somehow!
by John Mar 20, 2008 9:34 AM
Residents don't want St Pete to be a modern, major league city. They want to remain the Pinellas version of Sun City.
by Jesse Mar 20, 2008 9:05 AM
New stadium plans look great, esp. for downtown's image. Old Trop site can easily be made into bass pro shops and other retailers, etc, plus maybe a parking garage + park. Looks great for city. Its the Rays, they're not smart enough fo
by Joe Mar 19, 2008 5:29 PM
If they want a new stadium they can pay for it. The Trop isn't that bad. They can't even come close to filling it and the new stadium has fewer seats so I guess it wouldn't look as empty.
by alvi Mar 19, 2008 5:26 PM
ONE MORE TIME: move the Tampa Bay Lightning to the Trop, send the Rays to Orlando and let's develop a LOCALLY OWNED baseball team with TAMPA BAY TALENT and a FIELD IN TAMPA!
by Carl Mar 19, 2008 5:25 PM
This is truly a visionary concept. Still questions to be answered, but if everything works out, what a wonderful thing for St. Petersburg
by Get Smart Mar 19, 2008 5:24 PM
Bill you are an easy sale. The conspiracy is that the Rays paid the other developers to come with a half hearted endeavor so nice people like you would say, "This process is absolutely fair, I trust the right developer will be chosen."
by Rosie Mar 19, 2008 5:06 PM
Just vote no. We don't need another baseball stadium, and we don't need a Bass Pro Shops in downtown St Pete people. We have an air conditioned stadium with the worst team in the league. Kault, spend your money on better players, not pipe d
by kitty Mar 19, 2008 5:03 PM
Bill, don't you find it even a bit alarming that two of the bidders didn't even offer a purchase price for the existing Trop site? That they didn't speaks volumes.
by John Mar 19, 2008 5:03 PM
All those Crackers who live in Pinellas will never support progress. Just give them $240 in property tax savings and leave them alone.
by Kevin Mar 19, 2008 4:57 PM
They can do whatever they want to the Trop site as long as they figure out that the new stadium needs a roof! Florida in June/July/August is humid and a sail won't fix that.
by Buzzard Mar 19, 2008 4:47 PM
Yes, Guy, Bill, JH and Sal. This is truly wonderful. Brought tears to my eyes seeing so many developers...and politicians...acting totally honestly, putting aside thoughts of personal gain, thinking only of the public's good. Truly inspiring.
by Anne Mar 19, 2008 3:39 PM
How do the small business owners who got pushed off that land when the Trop was first built feel about this new development scheme? (Remember the riots?) Will they be offered retail space at subsidized rates? Seems fair.
by Scot Mar 19, 2008 3:36 PM
Well I like the out of the box thinking about a possable new stadium for the rays where Al Lang field is now,but I think it will take alot to get the voters to pass any refirendome proposal for a new stadium there unless the owners compete in the AL
by Get Smart Mar 19, 2008 3:35 PM
In these proposals is it stated that the labor force will comprise of American union construction workers or is the labor force going to come from Mexico?
by Pablo Mar 19, 2008 3:35 PM
Who does Hines think they're kidding? Cabela's AND Bass Pro Shops.
by JH Skyscrapercity Mar 19, 2008 3:34 PM
^I've been trying to tell folks for weeks that St Pete's leaders are set to hand over a goldmine to the Rays' and their investors. Imagine the possibilities in a better market, and without the timing hamstrung by the Rays' myriad
by Bill Mar 19, 2008 10:21 AM
I guess it is not a conspiracy theory after all. Three developers, paying big $ just to submit bids. This process is absolutely fair, I trust the right developer will be chosen.
by JH Skyscrapercity Mar 19, 2008 10:21 AM
The Ecoverde proposal is far and away superior to the other two in my opinion. The scale of it, the mix of what it would bring to downtown, the sheer number of jobs and tax revenues it would generate. This would make western downtown worth visiting.
by guy Mar 19, 2008 10:21 AM
Pretty exciting visions. Will be interesting to see the financing plan, but it would be great to have a project of this caliber in St. Pete.
by Richard De Berry Mar 19, 2008 10:21 AM
That "1000 jobs" talking point really means 1000 low-wage jobs and more corporate profit that will leave the area. Socialize the cost, privatize the profits.
by rick Mar 19, 2008 10:19 AM
cart before horse. let's vote on the land use first. this is a set up to make it a done deal. they're going to pull an end run on us folks. millage rate increase coming!!!!be afraid!!very afraid!! it went to 24 last stadium wait!
by Sal Mar 19, 2008 10:19 AM
Even as so many say NO to relocation the Ray's stadium,one can not help but HOPE for wonderful re-develpopment of the current stadium property into what the develpoper's envision!! That area of town desperately NEEDS an economic boost!
by Mark Mar 19, 2008 10:19 AM
Redevelopment of the Trop area would be a good idea if the Rays were to completely leave the area, or better yet simply fold up. Without the drag of those freeloaders, perhaps the city would see real economic development.
by Paul Mar 19, 2008 10:19 AM
As a rental property owner in Kenwood, I've spent over 100k on restoring my bldgs alone. My taxes have skyrocketed over the last 4 yrs and the City now wants to add thousands of competing rentals just blocks away?! Thanks for nothing Council.
Subscribe to the Times
Click here for daily delivery
of the St. Petersburg Times.

Email Newsletters

ADVERTISEMENT

 
ADVERTISEMENT