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Clearwater merchants upset over anti-Scientology protests

By Mike Donila, Times Staff Writer
In print: Wednesday, May 14, 2008


Members of the group Anonymous lined the sidewalks of Cleveland Avenue in Clearwater on April 12 in protest of the Church of Scientology. About three dozen business owners say the protests are hurting business.
Members of the group Anonymous lined the sidewalks of Cleveland Avenue in Clearwater on April 12 in protest of the Church of Scientology. About three dozen business owners say the protests are hurting business.
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CLEARWATER — About three dozen downtown business owners are upset with a group of anti-Scientology protesters and want the City Council to do something about them.

But city leaders Tuesday said there's little they can do.

"Suspending the First Amendment is something we shouldn't spend a whole lot of time on," Councilman Paul Gibson said.

The loosely organized group Anonymous has held several recent demonstrations against the Church of Scientology. Many Cleveland Street businesses say the masked protesters and the constant chanting have begun to take a toll.

They say the monthly demonstrations are turning away customers and ruining the overall ambiance of a downtown that city leaders have spent years trying to revitalize. And, they say, the protesters are scaring away people.

A petition signed by 34 merchants and two residents asked the council for "assistance in this matter."

The petition said the local Anonymous group, mostly college students, have a right to peacefully protest, "but they are in no way peaceful."

"Their actions have prevented customers from coming into our stores," said the petition, which was submitted Friday to City Hall. "These people are making it difficult for us to attract customers downtown."

On Tuesday, the City Council spent less than two minutes discussing the issue. The members agreed to send a letter to the businesses, saying they would not address the issue.

"I'm glad the City Council recognized our rights as Americans to gather to speak our opinions and protest," said Joshua Nussbaum, 19, a student in Hillsborough County and local Anonymous organizer. "They did what was right . . . and we will continue to do what we think is right."

The majority of the business owners who signed the petition are Scientologists, which led some in Anonymous to question whether the church had a hand in the petition. But Church of Scientology spokeswoman Pat Harney and a number of business owners who spoke with the Times on Monday denied it.

The merchants said they were concerned the protesters would harm the downtown that Clearwater is trying to rebuild.

"You can hear them screaming, hear cars honking and people who come here for a massage just want to relax," said Gen Cournoyer, owner of Botanica Day Spa, 123 N Fort Harrison Ave.

"You're entitled to free speech," said Cournoyer, a 26-year-old church member, "but we're trying to make a living and it can affect the people who work here. Plus it's an eyesore. They look punkish."

But the dissatisfaction isn't limited to businesses owned by Scientologists.

Debbie King manages Trickels Jewelers and is not a Scientologist. She didn't sign the petition but wishes the protesters would go away. "People don't want to come downtown when that's going on," King said.

She added that the masks Anonymous members don to shield their identities also scare children.

Angela Gioffre, who owns an Italian clothing store and helped organize the petition, said she will talk to other merchants to see if they can meet with city leaders.

"We have to find a solution," she said.

Others, though, don't see the protests as a big deal.

"When they're out there, they do whatever they do, but they haven't scared our customers," said Manola Louvon, 30, whose father owns Chiang Mai, a Thai restaurant at 415 Cleveland St.

Local leaders have invested millions into revitalizing the downtown's core, particularly its main east-west thoroughfare — Cleveland Street — where most of the affected businesses are located.

And while council members say they want to lure more businesses downtown and help keep the ones there happy, they say the demonstrators haven't done anything illegal.

Anonymous organizer Nussbaum said "our problem is with the management and leadership of the church," and questioned how the marches could harm local shops.

"We've never said anything to the employees or customers — we've always been polite," he said adding that members are frequent patrons of many of the businesses.

He also pointed out that no Anonymous member has been arrested or cited during the demonstrations. But he said he would be willing to meet with business owners.

The group, which marched in downtown for the fourth time last Saturday, has a core of about 80 members, he said. The next march will be June 14 when they'll dress like pirates, calling the demonstration "Sea Arrrgh," a poke at Sea Org, a religious order in the church.



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Comments on this article
by Mike May 15, 2008 11:13 AM
Actually, Anonymous use masks because the Church of Scientology will hire private investigators to follow their families, libel them to their employers, accuse them of terrorism, and frivolously sue them.
by Anonlikescake May 15, 2008 11:11 AM
There would be no protests and more room for shops and their honest patronage if Co$ cleared out.
by David May 15, 2008 9:13 AM
Anonymous, criminals? Yeah, that explains the wonderful relations between Anonymous and the Clearwater Police Department, because we all know the CWPD loves associating with criminals! We wear masks to protect ourselves from the criminals. Hi OSA!
by A_Candle May 15, 2008 9:12 AM
What is good but that which makes a brighter future / where you can look at a stranger and see a brother, / where an enemy becomes a friend / and works toward a common end / based on understanding- / when you can see each other, being to being.
by Ren May 15, 2008 9:12 AM
Peter, you might want to try to educate yourself about this subject before you go and share your thoughts. I suppose you are entitled to your wrong opinion. :)
by Peter May 14, 2008 9:05 PM
Anonymous people use masks which is what criminals do when committing crimes. They've chosen to use methods of criminals and that says all about them.
by Pavel May 14, 2008 9:04 PM
What can you say about cowards hiding behind masks? No-one can discredit them more than how they keep doing it themselves.
by Marc May 14, 2008 9:04 PM
To scientologists who insist that the attention anonymous brings them is good for the CoS: Quit whining about the protests then!!!
by WOW May 14, 2008 9:00 PM
What a hateful attitude towards a very clearly successful group of people. Are you all jelous of such prosperity.
by Anon May 14, 2008 8:59 PM
ShutUp-Cowardly? Or wise to the the CoS's policy of 'Fair Game'? Contrary to what the 'church' says, it is alive and well.
by Titus May 14, 2008 8:58 PM
The only thing in downtown Clearwater are Scientologists. ANONYMOUS needs to promote the dates of the protest a little better. I might show up for the free entertainment. Finally, a reason to go downtown.
by Kate May 14, 2008 5:24 PM
I see a lot of people here who are speaking out against Scientology in Clearwater. There are a lot of complaints but only 80 or so people in the city actually doing something about it. Go to the next protest. Do something about it.
by ShutUp May 14, 2008 5:23 PM
Jeff how can you refer to pro-Scn insults - what greater insult than anon flinging insults at CofS - prancing around downtown with strange attaire and cowardly masks. That is the penultimate insult. Growing up has nothing to do with this.
by Anonymous May 14, 2008 5:23 PM
You noticed that too Jeff? Maybe its because they have nothing else to resort to besides name-calling? How sad. I thought they were a 'church'. Ha!
by FutureAnon May 14, 2008 5:23 PM
Where can I find a list of all businesses owned by scientologists so I can start boycotting them?
by Anon May 14, 2008 5:23 PM
When will these CoS freaks realize IT's OVER! ANONYMOUS HAS WON! JUNE 14th!!! Bring your own eye patches.
by Sandie May 14, 2008 5:22 PM
A big THANK YOU to Clearwater City Council. Anons don't look scary. My kids keep asking me to buy a masks just like theirs. Shame on you CoS.
by Anon May 14, 2008 5:19 PM
Clearwater florida is the american heart of the protests aginst a cult. This is nothing more then a stunt to silant more anon's.
by Wanderlie May 14, 2008 5:17 PM
What's just crazy is that people are insinuating there is a Clearwater downtown that has any life. Folks, I've lived in Clearwater for 25 years and I can't remember the last time I went to the downtown area for anything. There's nothing to do there.
by Been There May 14, 2008 5:17 PM
Say.. How about we jsut get rid of Scientology!? That would solve the problem and make downtown a lot safer for kids. No more LRH brain washing. :-)
by AnonIsUs May 14, 2008 5:16 PM
Hahahahaha......desperate much CoS? What's next bomb threats against yourself? Oh wait...
by FL_ANON May 14, 2008 5:15 PM
Hey $cientology, Clearwater wants their City back!! I hear India is nice country to go and start over in.
by Jeff May 14, 2008 4:44 PM
Why do all the pro-scientology contain a bunch of insults towards anonymous? You people are calling these folk the children while calling them stuff like losers and little punks etc.? Maybe you should be the ones to grow up.
by ShutUp May 14, 2008 4:00 PM
CofS has built beautiful buildings, cleaned up existing knock downs, and actually are paying taxes on a large amount of real estate. SHUT UP ANON.
by Jay May 14, 2008 3:42 PM
And also, why does the Church of Scientology send private investigators after college students and send their parents cease and desist letters? Why do they continue to call these kids "terrorists" despite the FBI saying no illegal activity happened?
by Jay May 14, 2008 3:37 PM
Scientology comes into Clearwater and ruins the town, and then expects people NOT to criticize them? Sheesh! If you're so worried about local businesses, why don't you start paying your taxes?
by Anononono May 14, 2008 3:36 PM
The answer is simple: Shut down the scientology building and there won't be anymore protests.
by Anon May 14, 2008 3:30 PM
How about the CoS boycotting the Starbuck because they refused to bar ANon members from the coffeehouse?
by teamplayer May 14, 2008 3:29 PM
Anon are losers. Scientology is growing exponentially, just purchased another nine huge properties around the globe. More than 1000 new people on courses in Clearwater over the past two months. try harder.
by Kip May 14, 2008 3:22 PM
I'm sure the CoS would indeed feel much more relaxed if anon unmasked. Then their PIs and cult members could seek to intimidate and harass the anons way more easily and efficiently. But this is no Fair Game, and the Constitution still exists.
by Girl May 14, 2008 3:19 PM
Why such hatefulness for any group - I can't possibly understand that. Disgust at what? People quietely going about their lives and developing a improvished failing downtown.
by Local May 14, 2008 3:19 PM
Wow is this ever a hot topic, for everyone who hates Cof$ they sure draw a lot of attention. This is actually giving them more publicity.
by Non Nicole May 14, 2008 3:19 PM
Nicole, of course people are videotaping. Just like CoS and the PIs they hired are videotaping and photographing everyone that protests. And why "Of course COS is not evil." What is there to back that up?
by Anon May 14, 2008 1:48 PM
Sherry-I'm 49 year old professional and a college graduate. I am also Anonymous. I must say I find your generalization amusing.
by Millie May 14, 2008 1:43 PM
After living in Clearwater for 12 years I left due to scientology. Normal Clearwater residents despise scientology and what it has done to their city. Hours of supportive horn honks during the protests are the tip of the iceberg of disgust.
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