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ST. PETERSBURG — Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig waded into the increasingly tense stadium debate on Tuesday, saying the Tampa Bay Rays need a new ballpark "expeditiously."
Selig, who spoke exclusively to the St. Petersburg Times, said the small-market Rays cannot compete with larger ball clubs without the guaranteed revenue that comes with a new stadium.
He called the proposed Al Lang location outstanding, and promised St. Petersburg an All-Star Game if a waterfront stadium were built.
"There's no question that the Rays need a new stadium. There's just no question," Selig said by phone from his offices in Milwaukee. "Look, and I've said this in a lot of other places, I'm grateful they're having a wonderful year this year.
"But their stadium now just can't produce the revenue you need to be competitive on a year-in and year-out basis," Selig said.
Selig's comments capped another volatile day surrounding the proposed $450-million downtown ballpark.
Also on Tuesday, St. Petersburg City Council member Karl Nurse said he planned to introduce a referendum question initiated by opponents of the stadium. The referendum, which could appear opposite the Rays' proposal on November city ballots, would limit the development potential at Al Lang Field and possibly stop the Rays' plans — even if voters approved them.
And Rays president Matt Silverman spent the morning pleading with business leaders to rally behind the team's two-pronged plan to redevelop Tropicana Field and construct a waterfront stadium.
Selig, baseball commissioner since 1992, said he was pleased by the small attendance gains the Rays have made at Tropicana Field this year. But for a team leading its division, it's not enough.
He also maintained that baseball can succeed in the Tampa Bay area.
"I could take you from city to city to all of our projects," said Selig before rattling off a list of cities initially wary of investing in a new ballpark. "Once a stadium's up, there isn't a city anywhere that's disappointed."
Selig said his office plans to help the Rays sell their plan.
"It's moved ahead in every other city," Selig said. "We've had a lot of tough times in other places, too. But every city has made the same choice when confronted. I'm certainly hopeful St. Petersburg will (follow)."
Waterfront question
Nurse, meanwhile, said he will ask his colleagues this week to put a second referendum question on a November ballot that could kill the Rays' plans whether voters approve them or not.
The question would ask voters to cap the development potential of the Al Lang Field site to its current level. The intention, according to Nurse, is to prevent anything bigger (including the Rays' proposed 34,000-seat stadium) from being built there.
Nurse, a council member appointed in April to fill a vacancy, said he got the idea from former City Council member Virginia Littrell. Littrell is a leading member of the antistadium group Preserve Our Wallets and Waterfront.
"She's been pitching this idea around town for a few weeks," said Nurse, who said it's logical to infer that he opposes the Rays' plans. "People every day tell me what they want me to do."
If both questions were somehow approved by voters — the stadium and the development cap — Nurse, who has talked to city attorneys about the idea, said the question that receives the most support would prevail.
"The voters will decide if they want the stadium, not me," Nurse said in a followup e-mail. "I thought the alternative proposal to protect the Al Lang site also made sense to send to the voters."
Rays seeking support
Silverman and the Rays spent Tuesday morning trying to convince about 125 business leaders to back the Rays' proposal.
It was the team's most direct appeal to date, and perhaps signals the dire straits the team finds itself in. Besides Gov. Charlie Crist, few political or business leaders have indicated their support of the team's plans.
"It's a story that the Rays can't be left to tell ourselves," Silverman said. "The silence from the business community has been noticed." The St. Petersburg City Council is expected on Thursday to consider a first of three necessary votes to schedule a November citywide referendum on the plan. A recent St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9 poll of St. Petersburg voters found that 68 percent oppose the new stadium.
"The political community is looking to hear the opinions of its constituents," Silverman said. "Right now, it's hearing primarily from people with red (anti-stadium) signs in their yard."
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Comments on this article
by k
Jun 4, 2008 4:15 PM
then pay for it cj. you love your team them pay up.
by Patrick
Jun 4, 2008 4:15 PM
Isn't there a.....what do you call it? Oh, WAR going on? Why don't we focus on kids coming back with no legs, faces, hands, etc.....or is that too much?
by lana
Jun 4, 2008 4:15 PM
Want some cheese with your whine? At least print facts. All I see are a bunch of comments that are lies and exagerrations by those who do not want the stadium. Check facts then post. Oh wait-why let facts get in the way of your sad, poor opinions.
by Kim
Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM
If Selig wants a new staduim, let him pay for it all.
by nzjunky
Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM
Oh, boy, this is getting good. Our Rays will be in Tampa before you know it! Still plenty of old warehouses that could be demolished near the brand new IKEA!
by dave
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
I do not want to be taxed for this new stadium. I want my taxes to go down along with the value of my home. Not up for a new home for a baseball team. Nothing against the Rays, this great city or Mr. Selig.
by Andy
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
Dennis,
You have no clue how revenue sharing works do you? If the New Yankee Stadium produces more revenue than the old, then that is MORE revenue that will be shared with the Rays.
by Lorenzo
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
We have heard the ballpark proponent mantra over and over again - we want to vote,we want to vote,--- like a bunch of spoiled brats. Now when it comes to vote to save the waterfront, they don't want a vote. Ironic isn't it?
by helen
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
Selig should butt out. He doesn't live here. He should know the Rays have been losers and no fancy ballpark would have or will help that.
by Marco
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
Players salaries are spent here? Silliest justification ever heard. Build state of the art office bldg rent free to 1st Corporate HQ commit to 7 years lease and 1,000 employees with good salaries. Better than players investment even to this community
by Marco
Jun 4, 2008 2:57 PM
This team doesn't even have St. Pete in the name...why are we funding anything. No one goes to games because they have no interest. Just cause your a fan drive over to Tampa where the Stadium should be, they can afford it.
by Truth
Jun 4, 2008 2:54 PM
LP, I agree with no more cowbells. I also want no more bull---- from Mayor Rick Baker and the Rays owners.
by dk
Jun 4, 2008 2:54 PM
I moved here from KC recently. It is so nice not to have to endure summer heat at the ballpark. My luck they will build a steam bowl like KC. Sometimes it is so hot at the park you don't even want to drink beer. Put that in your revenue stream.
by K
Jun 4, 2008 2:53 PM
Even if the Rays don't stay, they are not tied to the Trop...I'm sure they will try to negotiate their way out of the remaining lease should they get an offer elsewhere...just wait and see! GOOD RIDDANCE but DO NOT LET THEM GO SCOTT FREE PINELLAS
by mlm
Jun 4, 2008 2:53 PM
I love people in St. Pete but you guys are going to look terrible when the Rays win 90 games and you tell them to screw off. I can't wait to watch them in Tampa instead of driving an hour 20 times a season.
by Stephen
Jun 4, 2008 2:53 PM
LP, I couldn't agree more. You don't bring a damn cow bell to a baseball game. It's baseball, not a bull fight. BTW, those of you getting riled up about Selig....he's done this in EVERY town trying to get a stadium as has Tagliabue in the NFL.
by Don
Jun 4, 2008 2:27 PM
I would invite Mr. Selig to explain revenue sharing and why the Rays & MLB cannot finance this on their own. Maybe he could clear up or concerns about public indebtedness & subsidy for well connected millionare businessmen.What do their bankers know?
by Cameron
Jun 4, 2008 2:27 PM
As a Tampa native that lives in SF, I have watched the Giants Fans pour into the ballpark, simply because of its location. Period.
by bat boy
Jun 4, 2008 2:26 PM
So if The Rays need a stadium according the commish, he needs to get MLB to help pay for it. Stop sticking it to the people and have MLB help it's own. Then we'll see how badly they need one when teams need to pitch in to help other teams. Do it!!
by Lawrence
Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM
Read my lips: They ain't getting the Al Lang site for a new stadium. Whether Bud Selig says it or not. The folks of St. Pete won't stand still for those overpaid athletes to take over our waterfront. We've said it before and will vote it down agn
by Joe
Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM
What guranteed income from a new stadium? Why didn't we see this last time? Please let them play where they are. Keep the waterfront for everyone, not just a select few.
by Gary
Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM
If the new stadium has the value claimed by its proponents, then there should be no problem obtaining funding from private enterprise. Forget the public dollars, cut the corporate welfare aspect and let the market rule!
by Jason
Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM
Move the team to Tampa. St. Pete doesn't deserve them
by Kim
Jun 4, 2008 2:25 PM
Well Bob you like it so much pay for it!!!
by Truth
Jun 4, 2008 2:24 PM
Never wanted the Rays, never will. Buh-bye.
by Jill
Jun 4, 2008 2:24 PM
I was at the game Saturday and would not have gone if it had not been enclosed with a/c. The traffic and parking was bad. I can't imagine what it will be like trapped at the water. If they want to fill the stadium, make it convenient for Tampa too.
by Tommy
Jun 4, 2008 2:23 PM
To Danny at 1:19pm: At the beach, you get to go in the ocean to cool off and I'm not sitting 6 inches from the next suntanner in a plastic chair. I've never been to our "Tampa Racetrack" so I don't know what it's like to watch car racing in town.
by Alex
Jun 4, 2008 2:23 PM
An empty stadium won't generate any revenue. Even before we vote, we have to prove public support for this team. We should not waste half a billion dollars if there is no market.
by Tommy
Jun 4, 2008 2:22 PM
I go to games occationally throughout the year, but if I had to sit in the summer humidity and heat, I would discontinue going. Maybe once just to say that I've been there and experienced it, but I would not go consistantly to a outdoor park. Sorry.
by Mo
Jun 4, 2008 2:22 PM
But their stadium now just can't produce the revenue you need to be competitive on a year-in and year-out basis," - Um..wasn't this addressed PRIOR to even building the current stadium? yeah, thanks but we don't like it now give us another
by Steve
Jun 4, 2008 2:22 PM
The Rays will have difficulty maintaining long term viability in the same division with NYY, TOR, and BOS. I don't think a new stadium will affect this. And I kind of like the Trop. A new stadium is just not necessary.
by Andy
Jun 4, 2008 1:21 PM
Bud is a straight-faced liar. Baseball's worst kept secret is that its revenue sharing program allows teams like Tampa Bay and Florida to turn a profit without even selling a ticket.
by K
Jun 4, 2008 1:21 PM
to Val-what Selig & Rays are trying is underhanded. What Nurse is doing to representing his constituency! GET A CLUE AND VOTE NO!!!!!!!!
by Tim
Jun 4, 2008 1:14 PM
Let's build the stadium now! Boo to Karl Nurse for caving in to the exaggerated lies of poww.
by Scott
Jun 4, 2008 1:14 PM
St. Petersburg is probably too small a market for MLB.
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Agree, Pinellas is losing residents, the growth is happening along the I-4 corridor, put it at the fairgrounds.
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