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St. Petersburg mayor stays neutral on Rays' plan

By Aaron Sharockman, Times Staff Writer
In print: Thursday, June 5, 2008


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ST. PETERSBURG — As the City Council meets today for the first of three votes needed to schedule a November stadium referendum, Mayor Rick Baker will remain conspicuously undecided about the $1-billion-plus ballpark and redevelopment plan.

Yes, Baker will recommend that the council move the referendum question to a second vote.

But that's more about process than support, Baker says. And, if no deal is reached by Aug. 7, the last of the council votes, the mayor says he will be the first to say so.

This delicate positioning has inspired anger on both sides of the stadium debate, but it nonetheless typifies Baker's MO in seven years as mayor: His successes have relied largely on crafting deals favorable to the city.

The moment Baker takes a side, associates say, he loses the leverage that helped him swing deals favorable to the city.

"This is a project that for the Rays doesn't succeed without Mayor Baker supporting it," said Charles M. Harris, a lawyer with Trenam Kemker and chairman of the St. Petersburg Area Chamber of Commerce's board of governors. "I think all of the principal players recognize that.

"I also think the negotiating process is still fluid, so I understand that the mayor is attempting to negotiate the very best deal that is possible. And until he has that very best deal, I don't fault him for not weighing in, for or against."

Baker certainly did not expect a stadium debate to dominate the second half of his final term. In 2005, he wrote that Tropicana Field "provides a great home for Major League Baseball, today and into the future."

Opponents of the Rays' current plan have used Baker's own words to make their points.

Yet in this latest go-around, Baker steadfastly has attempted to stay neutral.

Maybe it's a political calculation. Maybe his personal feelings are torn. Maybe it's because no easy solution exists.

In an interview with the St. Petersburg Times on Wednesday, Baker said his stance is simply a reflection of the questions that remain about stadium financing, parking and the redevelopment of Tropicana Field.

When those questions are answered, Baker said, he will weigh in.

"At the end of the day, if this goes on the ballot in November, it would be my duty as mayor to let people know what I think," said Baker, who does not cast votes with the City Council. "But I'm not going to try to put a date on it."

As it stands now, Baker is seeking at least two concessions from the Tampa Bay Rays. First, he has maintained that the Rays add 3,500 parking spaces downtown to support a new stadium, not the 800 the Rays have contemplated.

And second, Baker has used the stadium debate to once again raise the issue of adding St. Petersburg to the team's name to reflect the Rays' hometown.

"If you look at his history, he likes to have all of the facts before advocating a position for the citizens," said Deveron Gibbons, a close friend who worked on both of Baker's mayoral campaigns. "We ought to give him an opportunity to digest everything before we start beating up on him."

City Council Chairman Jamie Bennett said the mayor is torn on the Rays' question.

"He's just as conflicted" as other council members, Bennett said. "We love the Rays. We all want them to succeed. I don't think anyone wants to take credit for seeing a Major League Baseball team leave."

Council members are expected to vote on the Rays' proposal sometime during the afternoon portion of their regular meeting.

District 6 council member Karl Nurse will vote first, followed by the council members in District 7 (Wengay Newton) and District 8 (Jeff Danner). The voting will continue with District 1 representative Herb Polson through District 5 council member Bennett.

The measure needs five votes to pass. If the vote ends in a 4-4 tie, the proposal dies.

"Baseball's important to St. Petersburg," said Baker, who was re-elected in November 2005 with more than 70 percent of the vote and has received credit for bringing prominent research firm SRI to St. Petersburg and keeping the grand prix in the city.

"Our relationship with the Rays and our relationship in general with Major League Baseball is important," Baker said. "And I think we need to recognize the importance of our relationship. It is appropriate when they present a very serious proposal to us, that we give it a fair review."



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Comments on this article
by RICK Jun 9, 2008 2:14 PM
Baker says he will remain undecided but recommends council move the referendum question to a second vote.Come on he's leading the orchastra ,all the while pretending to stay neutral. He also knows they need at least 7000 more spaces not 3500.
by Debbie Jun 6, 2008 7:38 PM
Why are you building a new stadium for the Baseball team? The stadium that they are in now is what 12 or 13 years! And what made you change the name. You should have name them " The Mantarays" when the team first got started. It makes no sense at all
by Larry Jun 5, 2008 6:54 PM
For all the "no" votes...think about this...the RAYS will get out of that lease at the Trop. What the hell will you do then with an empty dome, nothing to spur development along the waterfront and a declining tax base? It's your call St. Pete
by Bill Jun 5, 2008 1:02 PM
Who cares what the Mayor says or thinks. He's a hopeless, self serving shill for his future political aspirations first, St. Petersburg's long term future second. If this waterfront travesty goes through it will be the city's saddest day to date.
by Scott Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
If the citizens don't get the right to vote on this, then a lawsuit should be filed. How dare ANYONE try to deny myself or anybody else the right to vote. Personally, I love the idea of the stadium downtown. Regardless, a November vote must happen
by Mark Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
"yes!"
by Bill Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
We are not paying 500 million anything. They cover the cost overruns. Does anyone read?
by Jon Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
Let the voters decide. Let the information come out. Don't let a small group of influential condo owners stop the rest of us from deciding what happens in our city!
by Theo Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
Yes...16 blocks to where it should be. Capitalizing on what Tampa Bay offers... just like what they did in San Francisco Bay
by Marianna Jun 5, 2008 11:47 AM
"So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, goodbye..." If this under the table dealing deal goes through WITHOUT a vote Baker should be ousted. What a raw deal for St. Pete.
by JBob Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
It's not worth keeping the team, if we have to spend 500 million plus. Let's face reality guys and gals, they're not going to draw more attendance or revenue with a new stadium.
by Rob Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
The vote essentially comes down to whether or not St. Pete is a major league city or Heaven's waiting room. For years we were the latter, for the past 10 years we've been the former. We need to remain a major league city with a REAL ballpark.
by John Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
"Basebal's important to St. Petersburg"??? For 20 years, we have not seen any return on our investment. I guess if this gets approved, I can tell my kids it took 40 years for St Pete to realize St. Pete is not important to Baseball.
by billy Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
i hope that the proposal goes down to defeat. this stadium will kill downtown st. petersburg. try sitting outside today in the sun for three hours. the open-air stadium idea is stupid in this climate.
by k Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
Vote No!!!!!!
by Marco Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
If this is such a great plan and will make us so much money why is Rick Baker not shouting it from the roof top? If he is on the inside and doesn't support it why should we? He is holding out cause he sees the backlash coming. Typical politician.
by Mark Jun 5, 2008 10:49 AM
Location, location, location. Build the stadium! It's good for downtown and all of St. Pete. Those that want to walk along the waterfront can go to Northshore Park. Have you seen the debris floating in the marina? Is that what we are protecting?
by cornelius Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
If this baseball venture is such a great economic catalyst,what do the employees that work the games, not play the game, get paid. Is Sternberg paying these employess a living wage, those workers who keep the Trop in an inviting state. Low Payor not?
by MikeK Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
Manipulation of city charter and promises from past city leadership has made current voters skeptical. All this hype sounds familiar.
by cornelius Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
when council members cast their votes,they need to consider and evaluate a "yes vote"as being a vote for "golden parchutes" and a "no vote"being a vote for the humble incomes of most of the local taxpayers. Penny for tourism stays,baseball is a game.
by Wendy Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
This stadium design is absolutely stupid! Why on earth would any smart city in the southern USA even ponder the idea of giving up a perfectly good dome stadium for an outdoor one? Baseball is a summer sport and this is Florida... duhhh..
by RayF Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
Good for the City. Good for the Bay Area. VOTE YES!!! Go Rays!!!
by Mike Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
Maybe for all the people that want the new stadium 1- ask how many Rays games they have attended, and 2- have them commit to Season Tickets. Maybe that income can help the Rays out without putting the burden on the other tax payers.
by Jennifer Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
An open air ball park on waterfront - pretty - but in a mandatory evacuation zone? Hurricanes have storm surges and high winds. What happens to the expensive field, seating, etc. Will the sail be part of or catch the flying debris? No new stadium
by Holly Jun 5, 2008 10:48 AM
You've got to know that we're going to get sucked into this nonsense. The baseball experts are secretly saying, "Hey, let's get someone else to foot the bill!" That's what big business is all about. Read the book, "Free Lunch!"
by Mike Jun 5, 2008 10:09 AM
Infomative article-read the Times web site every am. Love the Rays & Lightning. Go to games during the fall, winterand spring. Would hate to see the Rays leave to another state..
by Mike Jun 5, 2008 10:05 AM
Half a BILLION dollars to move a stadium sixteen blocks.
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