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Are Rays making money or losing it? Yes. Probably.

By Aaron Sharockman, Times Staff Writer
In print: Sunday, September 7, 2008


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Are the Tampa Bay Rays turning a profit?

The team declines to open its books but says it lost $20-million to $30-million the past two seasons and has budgeted for a loss this year.

Business magazine Forbes estimates the Rays took in nearly $50-million in profit the past two seasons.

Who is right depends on how you count the money.

Rays revenues

The Rays make their money in three ways: at their ballpark; from revenues shared among all major league teams; and from a second pot of national revenues meant to prop up baseball's least valuable franchises.

This year, the team's take from Tropicana Field will represent about half of all the money it makes — $65-million to $80-million.

The single greatest source of local money comes from ticket sales, which could generate $30-million or more, based on average ticket prices and 2008 attendance.

Other sources include sponsorships, advertisers, concessions, merchandise, suite seat sales, local television and parking.

The rest of the Rays' revenues come from somewhere else.

The first pot, called the Major League Baseball Central Fund, is split equally among teams and represents the payouts for baseball's national television contract and successful Internet business. That payout will be around $35-million per team in 2008.

The second pot of national baseball revenues shifts money made by the league's highest-earning clubs to the league's lowest-earning franchises. Tampa Bay will receive almost another $35-million in revenue sharing.

In total, that means the Rays could have a potential to earn $135-million to $150-million this year.

Comparatively, Forbes' 2007 analysis pegged the team's revenues at $138-million, the third least in all of baseball. The New York Yankees' revenues were estimated at $327-million.

Rays expenses

It is easier to see how teams make money than how they spend it.

Forbes doesn't calculate total expenses, and baseball officials say the magazine's numbers are consequently inaccurate.

In fact, the only expense publicly available is a team's major league payroll — about $43.8-million for the Rays in 2008.

How much the Rays spend after that isn't clear, though payroll figures do indicate a range.

Trying to justify public investment in a retractable-roof stadium in Milwaukee, baseball officials released 10 years of financial statements starting in 1994.

The audited statements suggest about half of the expenses were player salaries.

As it turns out, Major League Baseball financial statements published from 2001 suggest a similar ratio. According to MLB's own analysis, payroll costs accounted for no less 41 percent of a team's overall expenses and no more than 68 percent.

If the ratios remain valid, the Rays could be spending between $69.4-million and $106.8-million.

But those numbers may not reflect one-time capital improvements the team made to Tropicana Field, the Rays say. In 2006 and 2007, for instance, the team says it spent $20-million in upgrades at the Trop.

Profit or loss?

"More dollars went out the door than we took in," Rays president Matt Silverman said of 2006 and 2007. "That's the reality."

Forbes' estimates are based on a calculation called EBITDA — earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization.

The accounting formula has been criticized, even by Forbes, as inflating the health of a business. But the Rays accounting methods may not be perfect either.

Take the cost for principal owner Stuart Sternberg to acquire the Rays. Although it is not known how much he paid, the money didn't come out of his savings account. It is likely, baseball officials say, Sternberg's yearly loan payments are being included in the Rays' expenses.

Maury Brown, founder and president of the Biz of Baseball, said he would be surprised if the Rays were making a windfall. But to cry poverty isn't realistic.

"They are spending a lot of money to make improvements, that's for sure," Brown said. "But to say they're going in the red is probably not truthful. I don't think anybody's losing money."

That's in part, Brown said, because the value of the asset is rising, profit or not. A new stadium may increase the profit for Sternberg if he were to sell.

Eli Jacobs bought the Baltimore Orioles in 1989 for $70-million. After Camden Yards ballpark opened in 1992, Jacobs sold the team to Baltimore lawyer Peter Angelos for $173-million.



[Last modified: Sep 09, 2008 12:11 AM]



Comments on this article
by Peter Sep 9, 2008 12:11 AM
I'll tell you what...A rays game is very reasonable. We'll take them on Long Island as the third team in NY and happily support them. St. Pete is being short sited and myopic...not to mention all the illiterate posts on this page
by ann Sep 8, 2008 12:10 PM
Move on... play in the TROP as is or go... it's boring... stop asking for handouts... GET A JOB.
by Pete Sep 8, 2008 12:08 PM
Maybe one reason why the Rays don't get lots of folks to the game is they show the game on cable tv. So would you rather go to the game or stay home and watch it? Turn it off the tv in the area and more folks will come
by JIM Sep 8, 2008 12:00 PM
Why have the tax payers always got to pay for a new place to play ball. have the owners pay for it.or the investors they seem to have a lot of money. anyways it cost an arm/leg to go to a game.that's why attendence is not up to par.owners pay for it.
by won Sep 8, 2008 11:47 AM
The Rays can pay for their own improvements. Taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill so someone else can make money. There is plenty of money floating around for the high rollers to have their fun.
by Sunshine Sep 8, 2008 11:45 AM
iTHiNK the Rayz should plan on staying in the Trop for the time being, but also moving in a careful, steady, cat-walking way to replace the Bartow Power Plant as it becomes obsolete as we transition toward renewable energy, especially [OWCGSP] power.
by AC Sep 8, 2008 11:41 AM
Move to Tampa and all your problems are over!!
by JIM Sep 8, 2008 11:37 AM
pay these ball players a certain salary not millions are not worth it. you mean to tell me they are worth more money trhan the president with all of the troubles he has every day. deceant salary you have more than enough to build a new house to play.
by JK Sep 8, 2008 11:33 AM
Sternberg's yearly loan payments to buy the Ray's are being paid by the Ray's? Is he soul owner? Interesting.
by Bob Sep 8, 2008 11:30 AM
A succinct way to put it is: "Figures LIE and LIARS figure". I firmly believe that some "creative accounting" is going on.
by JEFF Sep 8, 2008 11:29 AM
This proves two things. 1. The Rays really can not afford $450 million for a new stadium. 2. For 10 years the Rays have been sandbagging (as we all knew) on player payroll paying 1/3 to 1/4 what they could have and still this year only about 1/2.
by Dr_Dug Sep 8, 2008 11:14 AM
Yea...lost lost $20-million to $30-million off their profit! They still took in millions to pay the salaries......
by karl Sep 8, 2008 11:10 AM
"More dollars went out the door than we took in" ain't gonna cut it. You want public money? Then we demand a full accounting of your business. Fair enough?
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:57 AM
As someone born in this town, I find it really embarrassing that I have to concentrate all of my thoughts/feelings about an article like this in 260 characters or less. So much that could be said about this situation. Way to go Poynter Inst!!!!! Yay!
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:57 AM
OK the limit on posts is getting really old here.. Baseball has strangled a once thriving downtown (central ave/9th - 16th street) area that was doing fine on it's own...before we got the 'major leagues'. Fergs is the only thing left from that.
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:57 AM
I didnt used to be like that 12 years ago when the thunderdome was selling out with lesser know 'professional sports', people would come in droves to see the Storm and lighting, since pro baseball has been here it has strangled the surrounding busine
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:57 AM
when there is Rays game going on. Sptimes - every once in a while 260 characters arent enough to voice an opinion. The parking rules downtown are so dilluted, I cant blame anybody for not wanting to park/pay for an impound ticket.
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:57 AM
They want to bleed every cent they can from anybody that enters the city jurisdiction. When there is a Rays game, it is nazism on the part of downtown parking officials. No wonder no one wants to see a Rays game, or anything else for that matter
by jason Sep 8, 2008 10:56 AM
The rays might not want to play in this city, but the city has no problem citations using undecipherable parking rules regarding whether or not a game is under way downtown. It's the city of Spete that is strangling this town, not the DRays.
by MR OY Sep 8, 2008 10:56 AM
Hey guys! You don't open the books you don't get any preferential treatment. Not that you should anyway. Hey Silvy; close the doors any the money won't fly away. One hell of a write off.
by Rodger Sep 8, 2008 10:54 AM
Thats the beauty of professional sports, they make boat loads of money with the t.v. contracts and revenue sharing. anyone that beleives the rays arent raking it in are out of their minds.
by tim Sep 7, 2008 10:08 AM
If this schlocky accounting is all The Rays' are willing to cough up then they have ABSOLUTELY no business asking the taxpayers to buy them a cup of coffee - much less a 1/2 $Billion dollar stadium. When the Bucs sucked, they were the richest team.
by r Sep 6, 2008 6:34 PM
There is MORE to life than playing ball!!
by bill Sep 6, 2008 4:26 PM
Rays should close the doors . There are too many teams in the major leagues today.
by Jay Sep 6, 2008 2:58 PM
The bottom line is that the Rays are going to have to open up their books if they expect to get any kind of public support or funding for a new stadium. It's foolish to think otherwise, so why is there such resistance to the idea?
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