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St. Petersburg rejects free recycling offer from county

By Cristina Silva, Times Staff Writer
In print: Sunday, September 14, 2008


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Pinellas County has a deal for St. Petersburg: We'll reduce carbon emissions, extend the life of the landfill and provide curbside recycling to every household, all at no extra cost to taxpayers.

And City Hall wants no part of it.

The county's ongoing effort to bring free curbside recycling to every residence in Pinellas has been met with firm opposition from Mayor Rick Baker, who questions the financial and environmental benefits of the initiative. St. Petersburg is one of the largest cities in Florida without curbside recycling, a fact that has overshadowed Baker's administration since he took office in 2001.

"Our position remains we want to recycle cost-effectively and environmentally," said Mike Connors, the city's internal services administrator. "We want to work with the county more closely, evaluating all recycling options."

The county collects about $26-million more than it spends on trash disposal each year, a surplus that usually is either banked or spent on capital improvements.

Under the new proposal, $7.2-million would pay for countywide curbside recycling. The 21 cities that now provide curbside recycling would be reimbursed. The three municipalities without curbside collection, including St. Petersburg, could use the new county service or receive funding to create their own programs.

The County Commission tentatively approved the program Tuesday and directed its staff to find a company to provide the service.

But Connors, who addressed the commission Tuesday, said he would prefer if the county returned the excess money to the cities and reduced garbage fees.

The county charges $37.50 per ton to dispose of waste, which governments pass on to residents through sanitation fees.

Pinellas Park also supports a refund. "This is a lot of money to initiate a new program at a time when taxpayers are looking at finding some relief," said spokesman Tim Caddell. "The thing we keep hearing from everybody right now is that it doesn't really matter what pot it comes out of, it is still our money."

Still, Pinellas Park, which has had curbside recycling for nearly two decades, applauded the county's overall intent, leaving St. Petersburg as the sole critic of the county's environmental efforts.

St. Petersburg officials argue that other recycling options, such as yard waste collection, are more efficient. Yard waste is more bulky than recyclable items such as paper and aluminium, so it should be a priority, said Connors.

Curbside recycling also translates to more fuel-hungry trucks on the road, Connors said. He estimates curbside collection would require an extra 25,000 gallons of fuel, producing 20 tons of engine exhaust in St. Petersburg alone. The city prefers residents use any of the dozens of dropoff recycling centers across the county, which requires them to use their own vehicles to get there.

County officials, however, dispute Connors' claims.

The county estimates 4.8-million gallons of gas would be saved if 440 tons of recyclable material were picked up curbside instead of at collection centers. Greenhouse gas emissions would be reduced by 20,900 metric tons, the equivalent of removing 16,600 passenger cars from the road.

Interim county administrator Fred Marquis asked whether Connors had any evidence to support his claim that dropoff recycling uses less fuel than curbside recycling.

"I'm not able to prove that," Connors said. "But I'm not so sure anyone can disprove that."

County Commissioner Calvin Harris said it was a little selfish to ask that the waste fees be returned.

"We are talking about quality of life for everyone in Pinellas County," he said.

Most trash is burned at the county's waste energy plant. But about 200,000 tons of waste are added to the county's landfill each year.

Recyclable items make up about 34 percent of waste items, or more than four times that of yard waste, according to the county's 2007 waste composition study.

"Our primary objective is to send zero waste to the landfill" and curbside recycling would help do that, said Andy Fairbanks, the county's waste reduction program supervisor. "I think in the end it really boils down to a difference of policy or opinion. They have theirs and we have ours."

The city's opposition also doesn't sit well with some green-minded residents, who recently started an e-mail drive to persuade City Hall to accept the county's gift.

"The program would conserve energy and natural resources, reduce greenhouse gas emission and reduce our carbon footprint on the planet," wrote activist Rebecca Falkenberry. "Who could oppose this action?"

Cristina Silva can be reached at (727) 893-8846 or csilva@sptimes.com.


By the numbers

Curbside recycling

in Pinellas County

$7.2-million Annual estimated cost of

countywide program

37,900

Estimated additional recyclable items recovered in tons

20,900 Estimated greenhouse emission reduction in metric tons of carbon equivalent

200,000



Annual amount in tons of unprocessed waste sent to landfill

Source: Pinellas County

Do it yourself

For more information on recycling and to locate collection centers, go to www.pinellascounty.org/utilities/recycle.


[Last modified: Sep 19, 2008 05:46 PM]



Comments on this article
by Krista Sep 19, 2008 5:46 PM
I think St. Petersburg should offer curbside recycling. I think a lot more people would recycle, if it was picked up. Every other city around us does.
by Stacy Sep 16, 2008 5:56 PM
If you're as angry about this as I am, send city council an email... council@stpete.org
by Daniel Sep 16, 2008 7:38 AM
Rick Baker.. You are the biggest DOOFUS! Your stupidity will reward you accordingly at the polls, when we vote for THE OTHER GUY(GAL)!
by Jake Sep 16, 2008 7:38 AM
What happens whe you recycle...Your rates go up. The Co. that picks it up also charges more. The electric goes up, because most of the trash in pinellas is burned, then made to steam, which runs a generator which supplies alot of you with cheaper ele
by Fernando Sep 15, 2008 7:43 PM
Let me guess: Baker cannot make any money on curbside recycling, that's why! He's not going to Heaven at this pace...
by Rekay Sep 15, 2008 7:16 PM
Well is that even in the question.the county is lookin for ways to cut down on burnig fuel so why not try curbside recycling for a month and compare the difference.So i agree with Connors train of thought.
by Horace Sep 15, 2008 7:15 PM
Considering that every single person south of the Mason Dixon line is a falling down alcoholic and only drinks Natural Ice, you should - I mean y'alls - should want this. Durn liberals trying to get our town clean. This is our culture, commie!!!
by Jack Sep 15, 2008 7:15 PM
Why do we not just build a centralized trash sorting facility? It would create jobs, be no burden on the public, keep recyclables out of our landfills, and cut down on the resources we take from the earth.
by Wanda Sep 15, 2008 7:07 PM
St. Petersburg Florida's only "green" city, how? Without the most basic of recycling efforts, what in the world could he have done to get an award for being green. We the residents want curbside recycling. What about government for & by the people.
by Jennifer Sep 15, 2008 4:34 PM
I lived in Seattle most of my life and recycling was a ritual. Alicia, it takes only as long to recycle as it does to toss something in the garbage. Maybe your home is a landfill? Recycling is an easy & responsible thing to do-no tree hugger here.
by Trash Master Sep 15, 2008 3:18 PM
St. Pete is not the only green gov't in FL - Pinellas, Dunedin, Tallahassee, and Orange County are all certified green too. AND St. Pete took the credit pionts for Pinellas' Waste To Energy Plant and Resource Recovery System that they don't even own
by Patti Sep 15, 2008 3:17 PM
At a time when people are trying to go ?green? and contribute to saving our environment for us and future generations, shame on Rick Baker and the City Council for opting not to participate in the roadside recycling program. As the saying goes ?if you?re not part of the solution, you?re part of the problem.
by DF Sep 15, 2008 3:15 PM
The recycling bins at the brush site are always full. Many time we have gone out there only to drive the same recyclables back home since the bins were full.
by helene Sep 15, 2008 3:14 PM
As a former NY resident I can't believe that Largo also has no free curbside recycling-trash co's need to provide the containers & collect w/o additional cost. Private co's are ripping off the public by charging for the service. Wake up Florida!!!
by K Sep 15, 2008 3:13 PM
Yeah,right "FREE" for the City folks at the cost of every other person OVER PAYING for garbage collection. NOTHING IS EVER FREE!!!!
by kathleen Sep 15, 2008 2:48 PM
I load up my trunk w/ recycling and take it to the nearest drop off site. It is AMAZING how much of what we discard is recycleable, and I want curbside, so that others too busy, or I'm sorry but too LAZY to do the same could at least be encouraged..
by Eric Sep 15, 2008 2:30 PM
Recycling isn't the panacea that some make it out to be. Recycling even has (gasp) consequences. Google PERC RECYCLING MYTHS. Learn THEN react. Don't just react.
by powell Sep 15, 2008 1:51 PM
Several years ago, I served on a committee reporting favorably to the city council on results of study of other cities efforts. The results were extremely positive for curbside recycling.
by Eric Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM
People who don't recycle now are unlikely to recycle because it's offered curbside. He IS smarter than most of you so put aside your conventional wisdom for a minute and consider his point about emissions.But the centers should be increased/improved.
by Fuber Sep 15, 2008 1:34 PM
"Good. If the tree huggers want the program then let them recycle. I don't have the time for it.' Wow - recycling takes maybe 10 minutes of my week. You can't spare 10 minutes for bettering our community? That's pretty selfish Alicia.
by Al Sep 15, 2008 1:34 PM
Read carefully, "free" is a misnomer. We are currently being overcharged for our utility fees. Go ahead and debate whether it is better to provide a new service or refund the money, but using "free" and "government" together is misleading.
by kitty Sep 15, 2008 1:28 PM
It sure would be nice to have curbside recycling pickup. We take our stuff to a center about 2 miles from our home, and while it's not that far away, it would be nice to not have to waste gasoline and time, and put even more traffic on the road.
by caye Sep 15, 2008 1:27 PM
Alicia, we 'treehuggers' will work dilegently for a cleaner earth. your not the one slob we have to clean up after. we want a cleaner environment for you children and grandchildren, even if you dont. your very sad.
by Honor Sep 15, 2008 1:26 PM
Yes, St Pete should secede and especially in the school district arena. You guys stay there and leave us alone. Play with your garbage.
by Lizet Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM
UNBELIEVABLE! Rick Baker has no vision!
by Abby Sep 15, 2008 1:25 PM
This is INSANE. I'm writing a complaint letter to the city. I'm LIVID about this ridiculous decision.
by Mordechai Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM
"Curbside recycling also translates to more fuel-hungry trucks on the road, Connors said." Wow. By Connors' logic, we should also refuse PSTA service, and public school busses.
by G Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM
PATHETIC.
by Lee Sep 15, 2008 10:30 AM
Baker does not play well with others. If he can not make secret deals, get a cut of the action and send out dozens of press releases he does not want to work on a project. This is simply service to others. Baker is involved in service to self only.
by Sharon Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
It's time the City Hall got "with it." Do we have to wait 20 years for them to decide to recycle? Where do they think the garbage is going? It's more important to recycle in this area than others. It's really unbelieveable to think like this.
by James Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
For C - I read that article too. You completely missed the point. Compared to just throwing it away, recycling is good. Compared to the authors' futuristic ideas, recycling is bad. Don't quote an article unless you use all of the information in it!
by Allen Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
Baker is, has been, and shall be an idiot! You got what you deserved when you voted for the baffoon. He runs SP like a backwater fifedom. Ricky when you get out of office you gonna discover your not well liked.
by ??? Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
Can we recycle Baker?
by Bob Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
How many folks here knew once the trash leaves your can it goes to the trashing buring facility. There it is sorted and burnables are loaded into the buring tanks to produce steam to run the turbines. Why should we take the job away from the workers
by Tom Sep 15, 2008 10:29 AM
How would it save money? By providing bins, and extra trucks. and training, and by using more fuel to pick these items up? How is that saving money? Did you know that 70% of what is sent to the pinellas..........
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