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Slow home sales pain MacDill officers

By Jan Wesner, Times Staff Writer
In print: Monday, April 28, 2008


Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer David Schiding with his wife, Terri, and children Greyson, 16 months, and Nicole, 3, in front of their Valrico home, which has been on the market for a year.
Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer David Schiding with his wife, Terri, and children Greyson, 16 months, and Nicole, 3, in front of their Valrico home, which has been on the market for a year.
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BRANDON — Air Force Col. Vincent Savino and his wife bought a four-bedroom house in Brandon in the summer of 2005. It was new construction, 2,800 square feet, with a pool and no backyard neighbors.

They paid $333,000.

"It didn't seem unreasonable at the time," Savino said.

Three years later, his tour at MacDill Air Force Base is coming to an end and he's under military orders to move to Tacoma, Wash.

Problem is, he can't find a buyer for his house.

Savino is one of an estimated 1,000 military members leaving MacDill as part of normal rotations this summer.

"Being in the military you're not as flexible as everybody else," he said.

Traditionally, most military moves happen during the summer, according to Lt. Rebecca Heyse, a MacDill spokeswoman. She didn't know how many troops are due to leave the base this year, but she said 1,000 moved out in each of the past two years.

Typical tours of duty are two or three years, which means many of those leaving this summer bought houses during the frenzied real estate market of 2005 and 2006.

Tina Maley, an agent with Prudential Tropical Realty in Valrico, has several military clients. She said some of them are deciding to rent their homes rather than sell, but because they bought when the market was high, the rent won't cover their mortgage payments.

Automated Housing Referral Network is a Web site that offers homes for rent to members of the military. Last week 668 rentals within a 60-mile radius of MacDill were listed on ahrn.com.

One couple Maley knows had a $2,900 mortgage. The most they could get anyone to pay in rent was $1,500 a month.

They took it.

"That's a big old alligator," said Phil Dyer, a financial planner with the nonprofit Military Officers Association of America in Alexandria, Va. "It's going to eat you one bite at a time."

About 8,600 of the 12,000 people stationed at MacDill live off-base, primarily in east and south Hillsborough County.

David Schiding, a senior chief petty officer in the Navy, said he felt pressured to buy a house quickly when he transferred to MacDill in April 2005.

"If you see what you like, jump on it," he said his real estate agent told him.

He bought a 2,700-square-foot, four-bedroom home on Whispering Leaf Trail in Valrico for $337,000, then spent $10,000 improving the pool cage and fence. His monthly mortgage is $2,100, plus homeowner association fees.

Schiding thought he would sell the house for a nice profit, but instead it has been on the market for a year now. He gradually dropped the asking price from $400,000 to $345,000.

He is scheduled to move in June. "I have to leave whether my house is sold or not," he said.

Military members receive a monthly housing allowance in addition to their base pay. The allowance varies from base to base. At MacDill it ranges from $1,361 for a private first class to $2,508 for a colonel like Savino.

A private first class makes about $1,500 a month in base pay, while the typical colonel brings in around $7,000.

It generally takes four to five years for a homeowner to break even on a purchase, Dyer said.

But that rule, like so many other norms of home buying, was largely ignored by folks eager to make what they thought was a good investment in Florida's heady market.

"Hindsight makes everything crystal clear," Dyer said. "I think it's difficult to say, yes, they made a poor decision. Back in '04, '05 if you weren't buying a house and getting in (the market) you were looking like an idiot."

Dyer said military personnel have to be especially careful not to go into foreclosure. It can affect their security clearances, which in turn can affect their jobs.

Jessica Perdue, a spokeswoman with the National Military Family Association in Alexandria, said she didn't know of any plan in Congress to specifically address mortgage relief for military families.

The Pentagon also has no immediate plan to assist families who are forced to move on military orders but can't sell their homes, a spokesman said.

Savino's home on Cedar Waxwing Drive has been on the market about three months, and his agent says he won't be able to sell it for what he owes.

He spent much of the first three years after the Sept. 11 attacks away from his family, deployed overseas. Now, Savino is considering moving to his next duty station in Tacoma while his family stays here, with the house.

"It is what it is," he said.

Jan Wesner can be reached at jwesner@sptimes.com or 813-661-2439.



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Comments on this article
by Dave May 2, 2008 10:02 PM
Last time I checked, this housing market effected all homes, 1700 and up homes are equally effected, so why fixate on this guys house?
by Dave May 2, 2008 10:02 PM
Why is everyone focused on size/price of their house? They are paying their mortgage so what does it matter?
by Keri May 1, 2008 5:29 PM
Why should military people not be able to own a home and have to live in substandard base housing? Its worse than welfare housing at some bases. We have a right to plan for our futures with investments too.
by Jackie May 1, 2008 5:05 PM
"Military Fat Cat", are you kidding me. This clown obviously has no idea. #1 Folks at Macdill deploy to the Middle East. #2 Didn't feel like a fat cat on 2 deployments to the Gulf. NOW i've heard it all.
by Dave May 1, 2008 2:27 PM
Yes, MacDill does have onbase housing...very limited supply that has atleast a 12 month waiting list
by justme (part 2) May 1, 2008 1:47 PM
I am not surprised this family bought where they did as it was a wise choice at the time, who expected the market to crash? 2 yrs ago a house was on the market & sold in no time. Sad that some are so negative over our enlisted/officers.
by justme (part 1) May 1, 2008 1:42 PM
The author is a military wife. She walks in the shoes every day of a military family & all they deal with. Moves, deployments. Nobody predicted the market to take a dump, this is just another problem that our military faces no need to be rude peo
by Ray Apr 30, 2008 3:00 PM
This guy's just a "Military Fat Cat" not like he's risking his life in Iraq or anything like that. Why should selling his house be different than anyone else??? Lower the price and it will sell.
by Ann Apr 30, 2008 8:54 AM
Becca: Perhaps you should stop spouting off. Do you know how many people get buy-outs even at "big companies"? Very few. We taxpayers can't afford to purchase expensive homes of military members who choose to buy for the short
by Ann Apr 30, 2008 8:53 AM
Ed's right on. These folks willingly took a gamble, bought an expensive house they can't unload and lost. It's a shame, but it's life. They have to live with the consequences like everyone else. There's no draft. For most, mi
by Trishk Apr 29, 2008 7:23 PM
Some bases don't have housing. Like the Air Station Clearwater. Or any of the CG stations in thearea. You either rent or buy. We bought since we intended to retire here. Which we did. Nice to know so many of you support your military people
by Karen Apr 29, 2008 4:59 PM
Most of us are feeling the effects of a bad economy right now, some worse than others. I wouldn't buy a home if I couldn't stay 5 or more years; but who knows? I wasn't there... you were. God bless you and your family and thank yo
by John Apr 29, 2008 3:46 PM
Living on base is not always an option. MacDill housing has been inadequate for years (lack of quarters). Quit speaking from ignorance about what military members should do when you have no idea- current soldier from St. Pete.
by Sandy Apr 29, 2008 2:58 PM
Oh, the irony! These military folks defending the freedom of capitalist bankers and real estate agents just so they can be caught in the lurch when they need to transfer out and sell their house! This stuff writes itself sometimes...
by Kathryn Apr 29, 2008 2:56 PM
Sea Legs- Most bases have rules regarding on base housing that forces families to live off base after they make a certain rank. And we have troops fighting the enemy now. This is not about profit. It's about putting a roof over your familie
by Sea Legs Apr 29, 2008 2:28 PM
When I was active duty, I was fighting the enemy, not playing investment guru on Uncle Sam's time and dime.
by Ken Apr 29, 2008 1:25 PM
Some commenters either forget or never knew that military members make great sacrifices for them - including being moved on short notice. Whatever others may think, they aren't paid nearly enough all things considered.
by D Apr 29, 2008 12:54 PM
I gove total respect to most military personnel and their families. That said, this is happening to others. Nothing new. And the idea that they struggle on that pay as commented below is insulting. It's deserved, but don't cry poor w/o list
by tom Apr 29, 2008 12:53 PM
Sounds like many got greedy and screwed themselves. Typical buyers, nothing less. With the flexibility needed for their position I would not recommend buying houses, just rent.
by Rebekah Apr 29, 2008 12:51 PM
Reading some of the comments posted here - the ones long on judgement and short on compassion - reminds me that some Americans aren't worth fighting for. Fortunately for you all, my husband is the soldier - not me.
by Tracy Apr 29, 2008 12:51 PM
It's not just "MacDill officers" facing this problem. "Enlisted" members do as well, only worse since they receive far less compensation. Why would the author just highlight the officers' problems and ignore that this is
by Rebekah Apr 29, 2008 12:51 PM
Many military families live off base so their kids can attend certain schools & rental homes aren't always available in those neighborhoods. I have a lot more sympathy for this military family than for subprime borrowers.
by JR Apr 29, 2008 12:50 PM
Must agree with the majority here.Isn't there on-base housing at MacDill?May not be like the home in Brandon but it sure beats the situation they're in now.
by Becca Apr 29, 2008 12:50 PM
Tim- Do you even know what a 'deployment' is?? Seriously- if you're not informed enough, don't start spouting off.
by Becca Apr 29, 2008 12:49 PM
We're a military family and buying a house has never made sense to us until he's finally out for good, for this exact reason. But if big companies can offer buy-outs due to forced location changes, why shouldn't the military, too?
by Hope Apr 29, 2008 12:49 PM
God is good.Just pray and have faith this to shall pass.Forget all negetive coments.Thank god we have military!
by Scott Apr 29, 2008 8:51 AM
Join the crowd military families. Some of us are in much worse condition. At least they have jobs. I can't even move to go find work that has dried up in this area. The military needs to speak out against the crooks THEY voted into office.
by Andrea Apr 29, 2008 8:51 AM
If there are normal rotations why isn't someone being transferred to McDill buy the house? Maybe they should have thought more about buying into such an expensive home knowing that they wouldn't be living there that long.
by Ted Apr 29, 2008 8:50 AM
I'm sorry but it is not to bright to buy a high priced house when you expect to move so shortly. It is crazy to think you can sell a house a year or two later for a big profit.
by john Apr 29, 2008 8:49 AM
ahh the american dream ,and the american family,worried about there butts,,welcome home,,now ya got to work, listen , do, and just like the military ,, do what your told,,why such a big house ,cause the military is behind ya,,somehow i'll be pay
by alan Apr 29, 2008 8:49 AM
he should be moved on to base, house for rent,,,and he can start to worrie like the rest of the american population,he has plenty from the military .he dosent look worried about it to me,,,rent and take your chances, im sure some one will rent it,
by Tim Apr 29, 2008 8:48 AM
No one told them to join the military and be a pawn for dumbya and company. They chose this lifestyle, no how it works, got caught trying to profit from a deployment in Tampa, Fl and now want us to feel sorry for them! Quit wasting my hard earned $$$
by Ed Apr 29, 2008 8:48 AM
If they know they are only going to be here 2 or 3 years, why did they buy? There is no written rule that says property always appreciates. Any competent accountant would have told them to rent. It sounds like an investment that may not pay off.
by Angela Apr 29, 2008 8:47 AM
Base housing? If MacDill is anything like it used to be, we lived in temp housing for 3 months while waiting back in the 80's. There was nothing available on base except for a waiting list. Finally got duplex off base renting of course.
by Dave Apr 29, 2008 8:46 AM
What situation would that be? A comfortable, safe home in a good school district. You are right, what were these people thinking! Remember, this was their home, not an investment property.
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