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Prominent Barack Obama supporters are considering compromise plans to ensure Florida Democrats have a voice in the presidential nomination, even leaving open the door for Hillary Rodham Clinton to win more delegates out of Florida than Obama.
Obama allies had long suggested the best Clinton could hope for was a deal to evenly divide Florida's delegates to the nominating convention. Now, though, Sen. Bill Nelson and key players in Congress and on the Democratic National Committee are raising the possibility of allocating a portion of Florida's delegates based on the results of Florida's Jan. 29 primary, which could shrink Obama's overall delegate lead to anywhere from a handful to roughly 20 delegates.
"Florida can be in play in November, and we need to get this situation resolved," said Allan Katz of Tallahassee, an Obama supporter, superdelegate and DNC member. "If the Obama campaign is willing to make a small concession in order to get (Florida represented), it's not my decision to make, but it's something I would probably encourage."
Neither campaign has officially embraced the idea, and Obama supporters on Friday were skeptical the Clinton campaign wants to resolve Florida's Democratic primary problem. But the idea could provide a path to ending the dilemma before the national convention in August.
The talks are occurring mostly among Democrats in Florida's congressional delegation.
Among the proposals being discussed: Florida's 185 pledged delegates would be seated, but each would be given just half a vote. Nelson talked about that with DNC chairman Howard Dean on Wednesday, and on Thursday discussed the idea directly with Clinton and Obama on the Senate floor, but they were noncommittal.
The votes would be distributed based on the Jan. 29 election, which would give Clinton a gain of 18 or 19 delegates — not enough to significantly erode Obama's lead in delegates.
Both candidates also would have a chance to pick up half of the 13 delegates won by former candidate John Edwards, assuming he releases them.
Other permutations include divvying up a smaller portion of Florida's delegates based on the Jan. 29 vote. For instance, 15 percent of the state's 185 pledged delegates could be divided up based on Jan. 29 results and the rest divided evenly. Or the 185 pledged delegates could be divided 50-50 and the superdelegates could do as they pleased, which might net Clinton three or four delegates.
"The level that people are talking about isn't a concrete thing, or 'you take 12, I take four,' " said Clay Phillips, chief of staff to Rep. Kathy Castor, D-Tampa, an Obama supporter. "We're trying to figure out how we get people to talk."
It is unclear exactly what Obama would support, but Phillips and other Florida congressional aides say they have talked with his campaign officials and he is open to discussion.
To date, Obama has insisted the Jan. 29 results can't have any bearing because the vote was pronounced meaningless beforehand and the candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida. The Clinton campaign maintains the vote should count or another election should be held. A compromise on delegates now might blunt her ability to tout winning the popular vote in January.
The nine Florida Democrats in the U.S. House, who all serve as superdelegates, have ruled out holding a new election of any kind, on grounds it may create more trouble than it solves.
"They all think the best thing would be to negotiate a settlement that would seat Florida's delegates in full based on some portion reflecting the Jan. 29 vote," said Eric Johnson, chief of staff to Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Boca Raton, an Obama supporter who is active in the negotiations. "Something between the Hillary strident position and the Obama strident position, some sort of compromise."
As it stands, Obama has a nearly 704,000 lead in the popular vote, according to RealClearPolitics.com, but that drops to about 409,000 with Florida added in.
But Clinton risks looking like more of an obstacle to Florida having a voice in the nomination if her campaign rules out any compromise.
"It's very difficult to negotiate with people who don't want to negotiate," said Katz, noting the whole issue could be resolved quickly by the DNC's rules and bylaws committee.
The Clinton campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
Adam C. Smith can be reached at asmith@sptimes.com.
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Michigan's plan
Top Michigan Democrats agreed Friday to push a do-over Democratic primary in early June. The four Democrats said in a statement they were "focusing on the possibility of a state-run primary in early June which would not use any state funding." Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, one of the four, said a likely date for a privately funded primary is June 3. The agreement now hinges on getting the campaigns and party officials to approve legislation, still being written, that would set the primary date.
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Comments on this article
by Ashley
Mar 17, 2008 2:58 PM
This has nothing to do with the "morons" in Florida knowing how to vote or not. If you would do your research you would know that we did not choose for our primary to be moved up. Our kind politicians did that for us so thank THEM for this
by Candy
Mar 17, 2008 2:57 PM
I don't understand why it is so hard to figure out how to handle elections here in Florida. It is utterly amazing to me that this state can screw up 2 elections, Gore and now this one. The people who handle this state need to be fired and replac
by waynep
Mar 17, 2008 2:49 PM
EVERYWHERE Obama has went in and actually campaigned, his numbers have skyrocketed. To consider the present results to be valid is outrageous. Anyone think that Clinton would take this position if she had "lost" this non-election? wha
by europus
Mar 17, 2008 2:47 PM
Every state has the right to have
their votes counted. Who cares when they held their primary? No politician
has the right to deny them their votes.
by john
Mar 17, 2008 2:41 PM
I'm not going to sugar coat this for anyone. Florida has voted! Before Florida voted, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina did.
It's the "people"...Demo Party leaders that choose not to count the votes. DIE HARD, America!
by john
Mar 17, 2008 2:40 PM
Floridians HAVE voted. It's the "people" that have not counted them.
by DAVID
Mar 17, 2008 12:29 PM
FL VOTES SHOULD NOT COUNT-THERE IS NO FAIR METHOD OF "GIVING" VOTES-
LET FL VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOV. PERIOD. MOVE ON-
by John
Mar 17, 2008 11:31 AM
The only fair thing since the decision was made to not count them is stick with that. They said dont hold them early Fl didnt listen plain and simple
by John
Mar 17, 2008 10:52 AM
Absolutely not! Do not use any taxpayer's money on any new election. We had ours on January 29th.
Also, Florida has a right to schedule it's elections any time it wants.
by neil
Mar 17, 2008 10:42 AM
Screw any deal!!! Florida broke the rules knowing the penalty. Don't county ANY delegates!!!!!!!!!
by Rick
Mar 17, 2008 10:40 AM
I can't stand how the elected Democratic yahoos of Florida want to handle this situation. If they don't take the original vote as is or perform a redo, I will vote for McCain. The party will once again show itself for what it is, a joke.
by Joe
Mar 17, 2008 10:40 AM
Why didn't Rep.s Castor and Wexler show leadership and stop Florida from moving its primary.
by Kim
Mar 17, 2008 10:16 AM
Let it stand as it is now. Let Florida grow up.
by John
Mar 17, 2008 10:11 AM
This is too much of an advantage to the Obama campaign and with the new video of hatred and racism in his church and the Rezco dealings...I would rather he drop out anyway.
by Kathleen
Mar 17, 2008 10:11 AM
That totally ridiculous and still is only counting half of our population no matter how you doctor it. It also is more of an advantage to Barack Obama when the people of the State have said they over whelmingly support Hillary Clinton.
by Loren Simonds
Mar 17, 2008 9:41 AM
Each allocated 40% with 20% noncommitted and seat all.
by Todd
Mar 17, 2008 9:39 AM
I agree w/ Glen Beck. There is no sense of accountability anymore. FL Dems broke the rules knowing full well what the penaties would be, & they arrogantly did it anyway! Maybe i'll go rob a bank today & then ask if I can keep the $ when
by A Voter
Mar 17, 2008 9:37 AM
Going from not counting the votes to allowing the delegates and dividing them as agreed by the candidates is going from "your vote don't count" to "OK, it counts but we get to tell you how you voted." This is democracy? The
by cj
Mar 15, 2008 2:56 PM
w/ media saturation & internet, anyone who cared knew the candidates on 1/29 w/o them campaigning here. All were on the ballot. Record #'s voted. FLA has already made its voice heard. Mail-in re-vote=fiasco. COUNT THE VOTES AS
by Steven R.
Mar 15, 2008 2:56 PM
Are all you people in Florida morons, or just the ones that (try) to vote?
by Martin
Mar 15, 2008 2:56 PM
First the FL politicians screw the voters by scheduling the primary too early, and now again by distributing the delegates themselves. Many did not vote Jan 29 since it would not count. The only fair thing is a revote, payed for by the FL politicians
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