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Florida Democrats abandon new presidential primary

By Wes Allison, Times Staff Writer
In print: Tuesday, March 18, 2008


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WASHINGTON — The Florida Democratic Party has aborted its plan to hold a new presidential primary of any kind, and instead will seek salvation from the same national party leaders who yanked Florida's votes in the first place.

That means any hope for allowing Florida to participate in the hotly contested nominating fight between Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama lies with backroom dealmaking and the willingness of the major stakeholders, particularly the candidates, to find a solution.

In a letter to state Democrats on Monday night, chairman Karen Thurman said the party has ruled out holding any new election to give Florida voters a say in choosing the nominee.

Instead, the state party next month hopes the Democratic National Committee's rulemaking body will approve a plan for seating Florida's delegates to the national convention.

That same body, the DNC's Rules and Bylaws Committee, stripped Florida's 211 Democratic delegates for holding its primary on Jan. 29, a week earlier than party rules allowed.

What plan the committee may be asked to consider remains a mystery, however, even to those most closely involved.

One plan being discussed would count half of Florida's delegates, based on the proportion of Jan. 29 votes received by Clinton and Obama. Clinton won that contest handily, though no Democrats campaigned in the state.

But there is no consensus among state and national party leaders and the campaigns about how to seat Florida's delegates fairly or even whether they should be seated at all. And it may be awhile.

Florida's 10 Democratic members of Congress are trying to take the lead in striking a deal, but they are on recess for two weeks.

While they continued on Monday to call each other, the campaigns and party officials, their dispersion from Washington has the effect of taking a pot of simmering soup off the burner: Things cool down until they return.

Meanwhile, neither Obama nor Clinton seems in a hurry to resolve the Florida question. Locked in an increasingly bitter struggle for the 2,024 delegates now needed to clinch the nomination (several changes among superdelegates caused the total to drop by one on Monday), each side is wary of any deal that might give the other an edge.

State Democratic leaders said offering the DNC a deal it can live with is Florida's only hope.

"We researched every potential alternative process — from caucuses to county conventions to mail-in elections — but no plan could come anywhere close to being viable in Florida," Thurman wrote.

Last week, she and Sen. Bill Nelson, the state's top elected Democrat, proposed sending ballots to the state's 4-million registered Democrats for a June primary by mail.

But the plan generated little enthusiasm among party leaders and was considered something of a political Hail Mary, given the quick turnaround time and its projected cost of up to $12-million.

Thurman added that the party also surveyed the rank and file. "Thousands of people responded. We spent the weekend reviewing your messages, and while your reasons vary widely, the consensus is clear: Florida doesn't want to vote again."

At least one Democrat, state Sen. Ted Deutsch of Boca Raton, was not ready to close the door. Deutsch thinks the party has an obligation to examine the possibility of a privately funded primary.

But a new statewide election could cost $25-million, and counties are in the process of switching to new voting machines. What's more, ballots for military personnel abroad would have to be mailed by April 19, and party rules require a 30-day comment period, so there is no time to pull a new primary together.

Not wanting to cost themselves any bargaining power later, the campaigns were vague Monday.

"Today's announcement brings us no closer to counting the votes of the nearly 1.7-million people who voted in January," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "We hope the Obama campaign shares our belief that Florida's voters must be counted."

Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said, "We hope that all parties can agree on a fair seating of the Florida delegates so that Florida can participate in the Democratic convention."

Some members of the DNC's rules committee have said they could approve a plan for seating Florida's delegates, but only if both campaigns agreed to it.

If such an attempt were to fail, Florida could implore the DNC's credentials committee, which has final say over the convention when it meets in July.

Of the committee's 186 members, 25 are appointed by DNC chairman Howard Dean. The rest are picked by the candidates, based on a percentage of delegates they control going into the convention.

But the committee's decision regarding Florida would then have to be approved by the entire Democratic convention when it meets in Denver. Many leaders worry that could cause a nasty brawl between supporters of Clinton and Obama, leaving the party fractured at a time when it needs to pull together.

"It's imperative that national party leaders participate in finding a solution," Nelson, a Clinton supporter, said Monday. "Otherwise, Democrats appear headed for a political train wreck that could involve a floor fight at the convention over recognizing Florida's delegates.

"That runs the risk of alienating a key battleground state in the runup to the November elections."

Republicans already are enjoying the show. In a newly published interview with Florida Baptist Witness, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush relished the irony facing Democrats who accused him and other Republicans of suppressing votes in 2000.

"I mean, this brings back memories of hyperbole and anger, mock anger," Bush said.

Florida's Jan. 29 primary violated national Republican Party rules, too. But the Republican National Committee took away just half of the state's convention delegates, and Florida played a big role in Sen. John McCain's ascension to the nomination.

Bush said the Republicans now look "genius-like compared to the DNC."

Wes Allison can be reached at

allison@sptimes.com or (202) 463-0577.



[Last modified: Mar 18, 2008 04:12 PM]



Comments on this article
by Jane Mar 18, 2008 4:12 PM
We voted. Seat our delegates!
by Barbara Mar 18, 2008 1:04 PM
FL already voted. There should not be a revote. Install the delegates using the rules that are already there! Do you really think they didn't think of this already? It's already addressed in the DNC bylaws. Stick to them!
by Terry Brogan Mar 18, 2008 1:03 PM
I am a lifelong Democrat who will now vote Republican if the DNC does not reverse their ruling. I will then renounce my membership in the Democratic Party. Howard Dean you are destroying the Democratic Party instead of unifying it.
by mike Mar 18, 2008 1:03 PM
us independents are watching very closely.
by Toby Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Clinton is reaping what she sowed here. She was the first to trash FL, now she needs the votes. The FL dems had little control over moving the primary, and Clinton came down hard on them. Now that she needs FL votes, she's our best friend. Co
by voter Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Florida's only hope should have been following the rules that the party laid down. I'm an independent, so I wasn't even allowed to vote in the primaries, does that make me disenfranchised?
by con Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Thank you Governor Crist and State Legislators for ensuring that the votes don't count. Thank you Senator Nelson for your efforts to resolve the mess created by Tallahassee.
by Dr_Dug Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
They want to run the White House yet they can't get the election right? And not counting votes to get to the White House? The Democraps have sunk to new lows!!
by Dave Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
What a bunch of jerks!
by Bo Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
The votes shouldn't count unless there is a re-vote. Many people didn't vote because they were told their votes weren't going to count. The DNC cannot go back on their word unless their is a revote. FL lawmakers and the DNC are
by JR Mar 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Florida made it's decision to break the rules and knew what would happen.
by jimmy Mar 18, 2008 11:17 AM
Dean's fund-raising prowess is undeniable, but his decision making is poor. This has turned into a circus and really hurts the party's image at a time when Dems should be POUNDING the GOP over the economy.Instead Dems appear to not ca
by Susan Mar 18, 2008 11:17 AM
Another embarrassing mess for Florida. Will we be the ONLY state to not get counted? How come Michigan can figure it out and FL can't. Dopes.
by Concerned Mar 18, 2008 11:17 AM
Bunch of Crap! Don't these people realize they work for US? WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. We demand our VOICES & VOTES are heard!
by chris Mar 18, 2008 11:17 AM
With mass media and internet, those record 1.7 million people who made the effort to vote were well informed of the candidates. Those who didn't care enough to vote because they feared they wouldn't count, shame on you - nothing more t
by Sasha Mar 18, 2008 11:16 AM
The members of Florida congress who voted to change the primary date despite knowing it broke national DNC and GOP rules need to resign from office and should be sued. They had no right to disenfranchise all democratic voters and half the GOP.
by J. Bandy Mar 18, 2008 11:16 AM
Come on Bill, mailin ballots, please. Maybe the DNC has done 1 thing right, as a Floridian I know I don't want our tax money used for DNC's stupid mistake! The 25mil could be used for something much better like helping Floridians thru this
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