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Oh, sure, he has sciatica, his knees hurt, and he has worn a little path from his bed to the bathroom, but you expect those things when you're almost 72.
The good news is, he still enjoys bike rides and thinks of himself as one of the "young old people" in his South Pasadena condo complex.
So when you ask DeLisi whether a guy his age — he and John McCain were born three days apart in 1936 — is too old to become president, he thinks about it for a minute, then says: What was the question?
Just kidding. Here's what he says:
"I have no problem with his age," DeLisi says. "If he wants to live through the eight years, he'll live through it."
• • •
McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, will be 72 on Aug. 29. Happy birthday, Senator. Everybody's talking about how long you have to live.
If McCain defeats Sen. Barack Obama in November, he would be the oldest person ever to become president. Ronald Reagan was 69 when he took office. William Henry Harrison was 68, and very soon dead.
Is it a good idea to elect a 72-year-old to what may be (as DeLisi points out) eight years in office? Even one who, like McCain, is in good health?
We thought, who better to answer it than other 72-year-old guys?
Using driver's license records, we generated a list of men born within a few days of McCain. Then we called them up.
A few men were willing to talk. Some of the phone numbers, ominously, had been disconnected.
• • •
DeLisi is retired from selling cemetery property. He lost his wife 10 years ago.
Right away we ask if he can imagine dealing with the stresses of the presidency. Does he, William G. DeLisi Sr., have enough juice left for eight years of legislative brawls, Rose Garden glad-handing and global diplomacy?
"That's a really tough question, not ever having run a country," he says. This much he knows: He has no worries about McCain, whose politics he likes.
Would he be concerned about a 72-year-old Democrat?
Why, yes. The Democrats have burned so much energy hating President Bush, DeLisi says, that "they've probably shortened their life spans."
• • •
"I feel real good," says Gerald Lovelace, who is two weeks older than McCain. "I'm not going to run for election or anything, but I feel real good."
A retired truck driver from Tennessee, he lives in Dade City with his wife of 53 years and enjoys shuffleboard, swimming and shopping. He had prostate cancer but he's okay now.
Mostly. Lovelace used to grease his car and change the oil, but that's all over now. "If I get up and down on my knees on that concrete, they kill me," he says.
Then Lovelace makes a surprising admission: He has lost a little something, mentally.
"I can't remember like I did 10 years ago. It's just different things, when you try to think of them, they don't come to you as quick."
Any worries about McCain forgetting stuff?
Nope.
"I think he could do the job in his 90s. I think he would be all right."
• • •
If you look at it one way, 72 is really old. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the estimated life expectancy for a white male born in 1936 was 58 years. Statistically, McCain should have checked out when Obama was still teaching law in Chicago.
But he was fortunate: He made it to adulthood (a considerable achievement), survived Vietnam and skin cancer, didn't get hit on the head by a falling flower pot, etc. Today, a 72-year-old white male can expect to live a dozen years.
McCain can serve two terms as president and still have time left to putter.
Maybe. (See "falling flower pot, etc.")
• • •
It's the mind that Robert Monroe worries about. Not his. McCain's.
Monroe lives in Tampa with his wife of 47 years. He retired after 31 years with Seagram Corp. A registered Republican, he voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and now regrets it.
He plays golf, tries to ignore the torn meniscus in his knee, and sometimes walks upstairs and forgets what he was going to do.
Monroe, who was in the Marines in the '50s, worries that McCain is mentally rigid, unable to change his mind when he should.
Maybe the military made him that way, Monroe figures. Or maybe Washington did.
Could those 72 years be the culprit?
"It's difficult for me to pin it on age," Monroe says, "because I am his age, and I think I have an ability to look at facts and make a good decision."
Mike Wilson can be reached at mike@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2924. Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this story.
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Comments on this article
by Martin
Aug 21, 2008 9:05 PM
Our oldest president was also the greatest president of the modern era (apologies to FDR).
Age isn't everything, but at least he was focused. Unlike many of our presidents who enter office in their 40s Regan wasn't wrapped up in tabloid scandals.
by IndependentVoter
Aug 12, 2008 1:21 PM
Yes McCain is too old and that's why no one I know is voting for him.
by TC
Aug 12, 2008 1:10 PM
ANYONE that WANTS to be president shouldn't be allowed to be president...They always have other motives. We shouldn't have president anymore, just a CEO.
by Teri
Aug 12, 2008 1:09 PM
I have my doubts about both of them! Yes McCain is probably too old and he has had some health problems, but Obama is not as experienced. Can I have a third choice PLEASE!
by Tee
Aug 12, 2008 10:24 AM
McBush's senility and course temper may yet bring us further troubles in the already troubled foreign policy front. We don't need the old man making those "Bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb, Iran" jokes with nukes on the horizon. Vote Obama! Maybe the world will hate us less.
by Veep
Aug 12, 2008 10:24 AM
He is too old. America needs new direction, not another NeoCon republican dust-bag who admittedly refuses to use a computer. Seriously, we want this guy carrying the *football*? Vote Obama. Vote NO on 2
by Casey
Aug 12, 2008 10:24 AM
Obama is way, way too inexperience and radical to be President. I'll take McCain over him any day.
by Kid
Aug 12, 2008 10:24 AM
Hey, is somebody running for something? Who? Are they running for American Idol? Oh, boy! My fav!
by Orin
Aug 11, 2008 8:49 PM
McCaint is not too old just not a good enough leader.
The age question is not fair as it is different for everyone and no one can say what will come of our health at any age. Age is McCaint's last problem. He is a wholly unqualified candidate at 40.
by tim
Aug 11, 2008 8:18 PM
So I guess tomorrow you'll run a story called "Obama too inexperienced?"
by Sal
Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM
I see Obama fumbling for words ever time he is asked a question - no different from Mc. Mc's age is just a good reason to pick a quality VP running mate.
by patrick
Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM
I don't recall people saying Nelson Mandela was too old to lead a nation. Ms. Pelosi is a mere three years younger than McCain, should she step down?
by Amelia
Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM
Figures lie-- and liars figure.
Comparing 72-year old retirees in Florida and thinking it has anything to do with an active and healthy John McCain is either stupid or disingenuous. Consider the source: a blatantly biased MSM. What's your guess?
by andrew
Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM
To those of you conviced he'll keel over in office, whomever he picks as VP will STILL be a much better option than Obama...
by Kee
Aug 11, 2008 2:40 PM
too old, too dumb, too ugly, too vulgar, too cancer ridden, too warped.
by John
Aug 11, 2008 12:03 PM
Hey, if he doesn't last out his term, the RNC can always do a "Weekend at Bernie's" with him. It's not like we don't already have a hand puppet in the Oval Office.
by geezer
Aug 11, 2008 12:03 PM
The answer isn't in the number but in mental acuity and McCain is definitely showing signs of decreased mental sharpness which is why they are keeping him away from the press as much as they can and much less than in 2000.
by Gilbert
Aug 11, 2008 12:03 PM
Clearly the author of this piece is planting a slanted seed. Age, race, gender should not be asked. Is he good for the country, does he meet the constitutional requirements for the position? Anything outside of that is fodder! He's gonna win in Nov!
by mumbles
Aug 11, 2008 11:47 AM
Did you hear John McCain is coming out with his own clothing line? It's going to be sold at Very Old Navy.
by Kenneth
Aug 11, 2008 11:47 AM
I think most Republicans can live forever if you don't expose them to daylight, or stab them in the heart with a wooden stake.
by John
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
Way to OLD can't even work a computer
by ed
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
OF COURSE HE IS..."working" less than any previous candidate, johnnie still cant get his "facts" straight, even after beng corrected time and time again. cognaitively he is FARFARTOO OLD and consequently DANGEROUS!! president CONFUSION!!!!
by Robert
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
Typical. Thinly veiled attempt to push your Obama agenda. It's disgusting. I move further away from the left with every biased article. Please run an expose on whether Obama attended a single economics course while at Harvard.
by jb
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
McGoat is way behind the times,Yes he is too old and too arrogant.Bush jr.He's so old that he does'nt go to the doctor for a check up,he goes to an archaeologist,He may of had a hand in inventing the wheel,maybe we will get lucky and he will croak
by Bill
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
Would the SPT writer have asked the same question about Democratic leaders such as Charles Rangel (78), John Conyers (79) or Madeleine Albright (71)? Better yet would he question the mental acuity of financial guru Warren Buffet (78)?
by Liz
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
Actually, the question is: Is the SPTimes too old, i.e. has it been around too long? Ageism is discrimination which is certainly as bad or worse than racism. What better way to enjoy your later years than to enjoy the relatively easy life of Prez?
by ted
Aug 11, 2008 11:46 AM
TOO OLD?? McThusela is worried that the ruskies may bomb ATLANTA next. YOU make the call...TOO OLD????
by Bill
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Would the SPT writer have asked the same question about Democratic leaders such as Charles Rangel (78), John Conyers (79) or Madeleine Albright (71)? Better yet would he question the mental acuity of financial guru Warren Buffet (78)?
by Mike
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Reagan was deep into dementia and Alzheimer's by the end of his second term, acc'd to his closest advisers. McCain is clearly showing signs of senility. I'm tired of being embarrassed of our president! Go away and rest, McCain. You are done!
by Lin
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
McCain isn't too old, he just isn't the best person for the job and our country can't afford to have another mediocre to bad president. Anyway, I don't believe on judging presidential aspirants or job applicants by race, age or sex.
by Paul
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Lots of VERY defensive comments here. This is a legitimate question and its one of the reasons I couldn't support McCain in the primary. (And, at least you found one 71 yr old honest enough to admit that being President at 72 might be overwhelming).
by mike
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Discussing Senator McCain's age is as relevant as discussing Senator Obama's race. Can we please focus on the critical issues facing this country, such as the war in Iraq, the economy, our future energy policy, the quality of our schools, etc...
by Cynt
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
YES. How in the world can all you people compare Obama to this old geeser. This old dude forgets to much I don't want him hitting the wrong buttons at the white house and blow us all up. Obama all the way!!!
by Sam
Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM
Are you going to ask people if NObama is too black to run the country? Age bigots....
by ed
Aug 11, 2008 11:44 AM
McCain doesnt seem too bright
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