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By
Adam C. Smith, Times Political Editor
In print: Thursday, August 28, 2008
The New York delegation celebrates Barack Obama’s nomination Wednesday as the party’s presidential candidate. But when Hillary Rodham Clinton released her delegates, chants of “Hillary! Hillary!” rose up.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This story contains information corrected from the version posted earlier. Please see an explanation below.
DENVER — They're loyal Democrats, they care deeply about their party's priorities, and they want to change the direction of the country.
So how in the world can so many of them talk about skipping the presidential election because instead of Hillary Rodham Clinton, it's Barack Obama who broke a historic barrier Wednesday and became the Democratic presidential nominee?
"If I can't vote for him it will break my heart, because I have been supporting minorities my whole career and he represents the hope of so many people,'' said Hillsborough County Clerk of the Circuit Court Pat Frank, recounting that she was 2 when her mother died and that she was largely raised by an African-American woman. "But on the other hand, the intellectual part says, 'Can this person handle the responsibility?' I go through this every single day, and I read absolutely everything there is about Obama."
Frank is more open to voting for Obama after Sen. Clinton's call to unite behind him, but like many other ardent Democrats she still may skip voting in the general election. Some of the reasons are murky, some are unspoken, and some visceral.
"I hear it from people but just can't understand that kind of thinking,'' fretted Alex Sink, Florida's Democratic chief financial officer and a close friend of Frank's. "Every time I think about the possibility of a President McCain, where it concerns almost any important issue to women, it's a frightening thing to me. They really need to think about what's at stake."
Among the passionate Clinton supporters at the Democratic National Convention, the talk of not voting for Obama was noticeably scarcer after Clinton's Tuesday speech urging unity behind the nominee. Clinton repeated the message Wednesday afternoon when she halted the roll call vote to declare Obama the nominee by acclamation.
"Let's declare together in one voice right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president," she said to cheers and chants of "Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!"
But even as many of her pledged delegates voted to nominate Obama with Clinton's blessing, they acknowledged plenty of other Democrats aren't there yet.
What may prove the most important question of this election is why.
State Sen. Nan Rich of Broward County, a friend of Clinton's since 1985, said no one should underestimate the disappointment of elderly women who pined to see a female president before they died.
"I watched my constituents at Sunrise Lakes, many of them in their 80s and 90s, stand in line for hours in January to vote for Hillary because they loved her, and they wanted to see a woman in the White House,'' Rich said. "It takes time to get over that."
Dianne Glasser, another Broward Democrat and member of the Democratic National Committee, hears explanations from elderly Jewish Democrats in her community: Obama is inexperienced, he's arrogant, he snubbed the Clintons or blew it by not naming her as his running mate.
"In the end, with all the different questions they say about him, I'm afraid it comes back to the basic issue — race. The rest is just an excuse," she said. "I do see the reaction to him changing, I really do. I'm not seeing everybody change, but people need to realize that issues are more important than color."
State Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale, said the number of former Clinton supporters ruling out Obama has shrunk a lot in recent weeks in South Florida.
"It's almost like they experienced a death, and they're going through a period of grieving but they'll be there for him by November,'' said Geller, downplaying the race issue. "Among senior Jewish Democrats like the condo leaders, the concerns about Obama have been the name. If this was Johnny Jones, black guy from New York or Chicago, he wouldn't have as much concern.''
Conversations with Democrats voting in Spring Hill this week showed racial considerations are common.
Judy Avila, a 55-year-old homemaker and Democrat, can't stand McCain but said she may vote for him anyway. She spoke about Obama's lack of experience before veering into questions about his religion and racial views.
"It's a little scary to think that he would be leading the country,'' she said. "Is it time to turn the country around and make white people the slaves?"
But she is hardly typical of the Clinton supporters not yet ready to back Obama.
"If that were it, would I have named my first child after Barbara Jordan?" asked Mary Kay Jiloty, who questions Obama's readiness to lead and is still livid that the Illinois senator did not support counting Florida's primary votes early on.
"If he wants me to trust him, he should have stood up back in January, February, even May and said, 'Give Florida a vote.' That's one of the reasons I have lingering doubts about trusting him," said Jiloty, who cast her delegate vote for Clinton on Wednesday.
Kathy Webb has been voting for Clintons since 1976, and, as a longtime Democratic and women's rights advocate from Little Rock, Ark., she saw Sen. Clinton's campaign for president as the result of years of hard work and the realization of a dream.
So as she described Wednesday how she cast her vote for the Democratic nomination at the party's convention for Sen. Barack Obama, she almost cried.
"I felt like it was the right thing to do," Webb, a state representative, said, fighting back tears.
Clinton greeted her delegates, fans and the curious in a spacious ballroom near the Pepsi Center an hour and a half before the roll call was to begin. She thanked them for their work and revisited the theme that many of her supporters found so compelling the night before: "I have always believed that elections are not about the candidates," Clinton said. "They are about people."
The crowd cheered her at every opportunity, but they applauded when she urged them to unify behind Obama, too. They appeared disgruntled just once: When Clinton said she was there to release her delegates, so that they could choose Obama instead.
Shouts of "No! No! No!" rose from the crowd. Eventually, she silenced them. Do whatever is best for you, she said.
But when she cast her vote with the New York delegation earlier in the day, she told the crowd, she cast it for Barack Obama.
Times staff writers Wes Allison and John Frank contributed to this report. Adam C. Smith can be reached at asmith@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8241.
CORRECTION: Pat Frank is clerk of the circuit court in Hillsborough County. A different position was given in earlier versions of this story.
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Comments on this article
by aj
Aug 29, 2008 3:45 PM
No one should vote for Oboma just because he's black nor Sen Clinton just because she's a woman, but, if you believe she's the best, instead of not voting, go write her in. What a statement if all 18 mil would write her in. You can see the intensity.
by Ka
Aug 28, 2008 8:02 PM
JT misquotes "Audacity of Hope." Muslim appears nowhere in the passage. Further proof of the racism, ignorance and lies that threaten a legitimate political process.
by joe
Aug 28, 2008 6:19 PM
There will never be a black president.
Go Hilary
by ij
Aug 28, 2008 3:54 PM
With all due respect to Ms. Frank, did you vote for Hillary just because of her? It would be very sad for all women if you choose not to vote this election. Women's issues are at the forefront of McCain's 'change'. Listen to Hillary, Vote4Obama!
by sheldon
Aug 28, 2008 2:42 PM
I voted for Bush. But I refuse to support a party that has run a huge debt and systematically taken away people's freedoms.
I love America and I think that a vote for the Republicans is a vote against America.
by Jen
Aug 28, 2008 2:41 PM
If a democrat won't vote for Obama because of the color of his skin, then that person is not a true democrat. grow up and get over a person's race or gender.
by ctb
Aug 28, 2008 2:39 PM
I'm so tired of this inflated narrative the press seems to've latched onto; *oh the drama!* Oh please! it may be endlessly interesting to lazy, cynical reporters, but how about reporting some REAL issues for a change? Mountains out of molehills = P
by Tom
Aug 28, 2008 2:39 PM
Pat Frank ("Patricia" when she ran for statewide office to make sure she got the female vote but still lost)should be a typical democrat, protest by not voting and then whine that the only reason McCain won is because "my vote didn't count"!
by Leroy
Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Let's be realistic. There are some people in this country that would never, ever vote for a black man. Of course they won't say this to a reporter so they come up with lame excuses.
by aj
Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Issues are the most important in this election. I expect, but hope that tonights roster will NOT be about black and be about the candadate at large. If not, he may undo all the good that's been done to put race to a lower plane. Look into the eyes 2c
by Patrick
Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM
GET OVER IT. Nobody's going to feel better by voting for the complete opposite of Clinton just out of spite. Grow up or give up the right to vote.
by JT
Aug 28, 2008 10:55 AM
Come on are you kidding these people are 100% behind the opportunity to elect an anti-American socialist. From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
by J.D.
Aug 28, 2008 10:54 AM
If Obama were a White guy with everything else the same the universal question would be, "Obama who." He is a socialist in an empty suit and that is all he will ever be. To vote for him just so you can have a Black guy in the White House is crazy.
by David
Aug 28, 2008 10:54 AM
Once again the media trots out the overhyped "divided Democrats" meme. Anyone who watched the roll-call vote and the Clinton's speeches can see the party is quite united.
by Nate
Aug 28, 2008 10:54 AM
Adam finds the 0.01% of Democrats that are PUMAs and spends greater than that percentage covering them. Thanks for the concern trolling. Disclose that you are a republican delegate and everyone could see through your ruse.
by Patrick
Aug 28, 2008 10:54 AM
This article lends credence to those who said women shouldn't be allowed to vote. A couple of them seem ignorant of the facts, a couple others seem racist. Pat Frank, just because you weren't ready to hold political office doesn't mean Obama isn't.
by Piobair
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
After everything that's transpired over the last 30 years, particularly the last 8, the only people who could consider voting Republican are multimillionaires and morons.
by Bob
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
VOTE FOR McCAIN ....
by Zach
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
Dems should vote for Obama, judicial nominations are reason enough, let alone the rest of the parties principals. Anyone who can't has to face up to what Wes put as, "murky", "unspoken", and visceral" reasons. Lots of words for he's a black guy.
by Brad
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
I voted for HC, but the PUMA's need to grow up. And they've come off looking like fools this week. He's not Muslim (if you're even slightly literate, you'd know), but even if he was, who cares? They aren't all crazy. The ChristianRight is more evil.
by Jill
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
Privately, Hillary & Bill will be voting for John McCain in November.
by Joe
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
Truly, how many of these people are there amidst the 4,440 delegates? Is this story's length merited? (Racism as a subtext is worth exploring.)
I hope we get similar interviews from disaffected Republicans in MN. McCain is not beloved.
by Albert
Aug 28, 2008 10:34 AM
After hearing all that both Clintons had to say about voting for Obama, the sob sisters who cannot bring themselves to vote for him SHOULD stay home on election day - and they should stop pretending to be Democrats.
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