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Florida tax plan would slash property tax, boost sales tax
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Alex Leary and Steve Bousquet, Times Staff Writers
In print: Tuesday, March 18, 2008
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John McKay, second from left, listens to debate on his tax idea on Monday. Others on the taxation commission are, from left, Nancy Riley of Clearwater, Darryl Rouson of St. Petersburg and former Sen. Les Miller of Tampa.
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[STEVE BOUSQUET | Times]
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TALLAHASSEE — Florida voters in November will get the historic option to cut their property taxes by 25 percent or more. But they also would be agreeing to a higher sales tax.
A powerful state commission on Monday approved a ballot measure that would eliminate most property taxes for schools but require the Legislature to find replacement revenue through a 1 cent sales tax increase and other revenue sources.
If approved by voters, the plan would take effect in 2011, saving property owners $9.3-billion. It would be the most far-reaching change to Florida's tax structure in two decades.
By a 21-4 vote, the Taxation and Budget Reform Commission effectively placed the measure on the Nov. 4 ballot. It will require a 60 percent voter approval. But as the 64 percent approval of Amendment 1 showed in January, the public is eager for tax relief.
"It's a noble effort, and I think it will help all Floridians," said chief sponsor John McKay, a Bradenton real estate broker and former president of the state Senate.
"It's changing the structure of the tax system — one that's more fair to all Floridians, not one that shows an advantage to special interests," added McKay, who has tried for years to eliminate sales tax exemptions.
Currently, every property owner in Florida pays 4.843 mills in property taxes for the state's "required local effort" for schools. If the plan is approved by voters, property owners would save $484 for every $100,000 in taxable property value. Other, much smaller discretionary school taxes levied by individual counties would not be affected.
A 1-cent increase in the state's sales tax, to 7 percent, would generate $3.3-billion to $3.9-billion annually, under current estimates. Roughly a quarter of that would be paid by out-of-state visitors and businesses.
It would then be up to the Legislature to figure out how to generate roughly $5-billion more to pay for schools, either through eliminating sales tax exemptions, cutting state spending or finding other revenue sources.
But McKay's plan falls short of a dramatic overhaul of the state's inequitable property tax system that favors longtime homestead property owners over everyone else. It will not change Save Our Homes, the popular 3 percent cap on property tax assessments for homesteaded homeowners.
"Nothing in this proposal will fix the brokenness," David Daniel, a lobbyist for the Florida Chamber of Commerce, told the panel.
Monday's vote was a compromise. McKay backed off on a requirement that part of the money be made up by expanding the sales tax to services provided by attorneys, barbers and others. And commission members yielded to tremendous public and political pressure to act.
"You're our last hope," House Speaker Marco Rubio, who attempted a similar plan last year only to get shut down by the Senate, implored before the vote. "If you're waiting on the Florida Legislature to cut taxes, it isn't going to happen."
The action comes less than two months after voters approved a different, less substantial round of cuts known as Amendment 1. That plan crafted by the Legislature and Gov. Charlie Crist was approved soundly but resulted in meager savings.
"The people grabbed relief on Jan. 29, but they are still clamoring for reform, true reform," said commission member Darryl Rouson of St. Petersburg.
Crist avoided taking a hard stance on the commission's proposal. At midafternoon, he said he had not seen the full proposal.
Business interests blasted the ballot measure as shortsighted and still others said the state will have a hard time making up billions for schools.
"A sales tax is a regressive tax, there's no way around it," said commissioner Randy Miller, who is also vice president of the Florida Retail Federation. "We're not doing anything here except changing who pays the bill."
There is no clear consensus on how the Legislature would find the other $5-billion for schools, whether through elimination of sales tax exemptions or other revenue. Business interests will work hard to protect their sales tax exemptions and may even fund a campaign to defeat the November ballot measure.
The approved plan is silent on the question of whether to extend the sales tax to services like accountants and architects, lawyers and limousines — a concession McKay made in order to gain approval for the plan.
But Miller and other business interests suggested that may be the only way to turn because eliminating sales tax exemptions will not even cover half of the hole left after the sales tax increase.
Rubio, who lobbied aggressively for the plan, said opponents underestimate the additional revenue that will come when Florida's real estate market rebounds under the cuts.
"They are not understanding what's going to happen to our economy when you give people thousands of dollars back in their pocket to go out and spend," Rubio said.
The proposal would also slash to 5 percent the 10 percent assessment cap for nonhomestead property, approved as part of Amendment 1.
There is still a technical hurdle to the measure being on the ballot. Final ballot language is still being drafted and will require a final vote by the full 25-member commission.
The proposal, CP2C1, can be found online at floridatbrc.org.
Times staff writer David DeCamp contributed to this report. Alex Leary can be reached at aleary@sptimes.com.
>>fast facts
Property tax plan
A powerful state commission agreed Monday to ask voters to approve a dramatic change to the state's tax system. If 60 percent of voters endorse the measure in November it would:
• Do away with state property taxes for schools in 2011.
• Save property owners $484 for every $100,000 in taxable property.
• Increase the state sales tax from 6 cents to 7 cents
• Require the Legislature to find other savings or revenue to insure school funding remains intact. That could include taxing some goods and services now exempted.
• Would lower the annual assessment cap for nonhomesteaded properties to 5 percent. Voters in January set the cap at 10 percent.
[Last modified: Mar 24, 2008 01:24 PM]
Comments on this article
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by kitty
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Mar 18, 2008 1:08 PM
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Honestly Phil, your "sky is falling" attitude really needs to go! That $20 pair of pants would cost an extra twenty cents. Taxes on even a big-ticket item purchase like a car would cost on average $200 more.
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by Tom
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Mar 18, 2008 1:08 PM
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Turn the poor out in the streets! Let the parks become overrun with crime! Forget those 'education' programs! We need to save voters - I mean taxpayers - $30 a year so they vote for us! Shesh
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by Tom
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Mar 18, 2008 1:08 PM
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Cut cut cut. Save the taxpayer $50 and choke out the schools. We'll be a state of retirees who still complain their taxes are too high AND illiterate 'graduates' barely able to figure out where the ketchup is stored at the McDonalds
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by Maryann
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Mar 18, 2008 1:08 PM
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Here in Hernando Co. we pay 4.9960 mills for the state's "required effort" in school property taxes - not 4.843 mills. Why the difference and what about the 2.7260 by the local board and the .3430 in debt service?
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by Tim
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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I still can't believe no one is holding Rubios (and Charlies) feet to the fire over their deal on Amendment 1. Rubio backed it and his alma mater (UM) received an 80 million dollar grant while the univ. system budget was cut
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by Todd
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Even as a homeowner,I find it unfair to those who do not own a home.Why should these people pay for FL's mess?Here's an idea,make it illegal to be on a cell phone when driving.Other states have done this and the fine is hefty.
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by Audrey
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Lowing property taxes would be fine...BUT Pinellas already has a 7% sales tax, only a fool would vote for another 1% making ours 8%....I'm voting NO!!!!
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by Ed
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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What the??? Why vote for this NOW when it won't take effect until 2011? By then most of our homes will be in foreclosure. WE NEED RELIEF NOW!!!!!!
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by Greg
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Anyone ever thought of a state income tax? That way, we can blast through the shenanigans of claiming that a $1/2million condo for some relocated investment banker is the same as working folk in a shotgun in an older section of town. Eat the rich!
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by Bob
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Why doesn't this take effect immediately like Amendment 1?
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by Dave
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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We need new blood in Tallahassee! Vote out the politicians who give tax cuts to special interest and tax everyone fairly!
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by Judas
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Some counties already are paying 7 cent to the dollar. (Hillsbourgh 6.5). Now you want us to pay 8 cent on the dollar and not to go into effect until three years later. I say "NO WAY" The people want a fix NOW, not three years in
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by JK
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Stupid, stupid, STUPID.
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by John
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Mar 18, 2008 1:07 PM
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Why don't the politicos listen? Voters want tax relief from the 6 year spending spree. That means simply cutting spending back to the just-fine 2000 levels -- not yet another 'shell' game with taxes.
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by D
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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Hey Keith...I do not have any children. Why should I pay for schools?
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by A
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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No SOH and portability are NOT affected ... about time the homeowners stop footing the bill for everything! Make EVERYONE pay for services the majority of people use + tourists make up 25% of the total revenue generated by the ONE PENNY in
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by Patty
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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Go a step further and get rid of SOH and portability. Give seniors only a break, the rest should be a level playing field. Just do it!
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by Loretha
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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Here we go. Schools take the lowest priority again. Our legislature is stupid. They want to build up funds based on gambling and the easy way out. No thought to the ex-middle class and the cost of living. What ever happened to tourism $?
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by Incredulous
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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It does NOT get to the root of the problem. Save our homes is BAD for Florida in the long run. Another bandaid from the political knuckleheads...
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by Vernon
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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An owner of a $1,000,000 beachfront property gets a tax break of $4,840, and an owner of a $100.000 modest home gets a tax break of $484. Everybody makes up the difference by payig the same sales tax. This shifts the tax to the little guy.
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by Ryan
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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This is a bad idea. McKay is wrong when he says it doesn't help a special interest group when it really does, homeowners. This basically hurts tourists and renters and helps homeowners making it unbalanced.
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by chet
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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The state has just passed Amendment 1 which will have a major impact on property taxes. Very few will understand this impact until they receive their next tax bills. How can anyone vote on a change until they understand where they stand now??
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by Sim
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Mar 18, 2008 1:06 PM
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The schools dont need tax money. They have squandered billions over the years. Cut government and make the parents responsible for their childrens education. Property tax is un-American.
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by jj
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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2011 for some relief??? really.... unbelievable that it should take that long.... the current tax structure is crushing so many people...
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by Kim
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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Yes, Keith..DO the math....I'm having to pay 10K per year to educate my child because the tax money I've been paying for the last 20 years has produced a failed system. Why should I have to pay twice?
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by D. Key
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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"Action- Reaction." The Bushs' took action and cut the taxes for the rich. Reaction was,the middle class and the poor have to make up this cut in taxes. (Expenses don't go down)The country and the state were doing
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by doug
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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i have non-owner occupied property in clearwater,no one seems to care that all of us floridians are getting slammed with taxes and insurance.did we forget that the business owners started this lower tax crusade.but reap no rewards.
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by kitty watts
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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Hoorah, Finally a decent solutions to have our states economy return to normal instead of being rock bottom, just do it in 2008 instead of 2011. The revenue from new growth would make up the additional revenue needed.
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by Patty
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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I'd sell it the same way we were sold "Penny for Pinellas". Tourist paying a portion of our shool taxes. Next time I vote No on PfP and we're back to where we were on sales taxes and my property taxes will be truly cut.
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by JT
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Mar 18, 2008 1:05 PM
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BIG step in the right direction. Maybe now some freeloaders will head back up north for some cold winters. D this plan is an addition to the SOH & Portability of Amendment 1. Another good thing is the 5% cap for Non SOH property, including c
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by Jon
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Mar 18, 2008 1:04 PM
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Boo on the rich white men. We should take all their money and give it to the poor, so then everyone will be poor. Yeah!
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by Al
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Mar 18, 2008 1:01 PM
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We will pay more in sales taxes than in school taxes. Also, for anybody who itemizes deductions for income taxes, sales taxes are not deductible. The schools will have to depend on the kindness of the legislature every year. I don't trust them.
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by Tino
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Mar 18, 2008 1:01 PM
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Now if they would raise the college tuition above what day care for a 4 year old costs, just think of the possibilities!
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by Sandra
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Mar 18, 2008 1:01 PM
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Somebody should tell Randy Miller that if tourists & renters & illegals are going to be paying up to 25% of the taxes that SURE beats what we have now with homeowners footing the entire bill ALONE. Make it fair for ALL Floridians to shar
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by D
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Mar 18, 2008 8:48 AM
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How would this new plan affect (1) the Save Our Homes cap and (2) the new "portability" option?
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