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Hillsborough appears to be the only county in the state where tax dollars provide retirement benefits for inmates who dig ditches and pick up trash.
The practice prompted a Florida Senate committee Tuesday to pass a measure (SB 2848) that would prohibit inmates from accruing public retirement benefits. A similar measure is moving swiftly through the House.
Hillsborough County has paid at least $162,741 in retirement benefits to the state pension system for 640 Hillsborough County Jail inmates from 2002 through early April, according to the only state data available Tuesday.
But it's unclear how long the practice has been going on. Eligible inmates are those working as county employees in a work-release program, which is at least 15 years old.
"It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard," said Rep. Frank Attkisson, R-Kissimmee, who is among those trying to stop the practice.
Nobody knows if an inmate has retired on the public dime. But state retirement officials say it could happen, theoretically.
Inmates who have accrued benefits over the years served time for traffic fines, driving without a license, carrying a concealed gun, burglary, grand theft and cocaine possession.
Take inmate Quinten L. Fesser, who was paid $10,380 last year and built up about $1,020 toward a state pension and post-retirement health care. Fesser, now 46, had been accused of unemployment compensation fraud, driving without a valid license and driving drunk. He could not be reached for this story.
His earnings were among the highest, as most inmates made between $1,000 and $5,000 working for the county.
Why this is happening only in Hillsborough is unclear. The county jail and the state retirement system blame the county. The county blames the Sheriff's Office and retirement system.
Basically, Hillsborough County treats its work-release inmates the same as any other public employees, meaning they earn minimum wage and retirement benefits.
Other counties pay work-release inmates by giving them credits at the jail vending services, said former Palm Beach County Sheriff Frank Messersmith, who now lobbies for the Florida Sheriff's Association. Some counties classify their work-release inmates as "other personnel," so they're not eligible for benefits, Attkisson said.
Hillsborough Col. David Parrish, who leads the county's jail system, said it's important to pay inmates minimum wage, but he has no personal opinion on whether they should be able to build up retirement benefits.
"What are you going to do to them? You can't beat them," Parrish said. "Nobody is going to do that kind of hot, sweaty work cleaning ditches for free, when they can just sit in jail."
Parrish said he didn't know of any inmate who had worked long enough to qualify for retirement benefits.
It takes six years of service to qualify for the state's pension plan, making it unlikely an inmate would qualify based solely on work-release service. However, an inmate who later works for a government that participates in the state retirement system could build on the credit they accrued while in jail.
And a savvy inmate who works long enough could qualify for a small benefit based on his work-release service, say state retirement officials. An inmate who chooses to participate in the state's alternative plan, a defined contribution plan similar to a 401(k), can be vested after one year of service, said Department of Management Services spokeswoman Linda McDonald.
Six years of records show that about 10 inmates have worked more than a year as county employees. It's unknown which retirement plan they chose.
Even if every former county jail inmate fails to qualify for state retirement, the county can't get a refund, McDonald said.
"It's just crazy, totally ridiculous," said David Murrell, executive director of Florida Police Benevolent Association, a union representing police and corrections officers across the state. "A total misuse of public dollars."
Inmates who work in the county's jails aren't paid money. But work-release inmates can make minimum wage. To participate in the program, they must first pay a fee. Inmates are assigned either to the county or to a private-sector employer, such as Burger King, Parrish said. The inmate keeps seven hours worth of pay each day, but the county collects wages from the eighth hour.
The county said it's been trying for more than two years to work with the Sheriff's Office to stop the practice.
"We don't think it's appropriate to be making retirement contributions on behalf of work- release inmates," said Deputy County Administrator Wally Hill.
But Parrish said the jail defers benefit matters to the inmate's employer, whether it's the county or a private employer.
It's the county who took the matter to the Legislature.
"While you're doing your life sentence, you can get a state retirement," joked Sen. J.D. Alexander, R-Lake Wales.
[Last modified: Apr 17, 2008 10:12 AM]
Comments on this article
by Ron
Apr 17, 2008 10:12 AM
Whether they qualify for benifits or not Hillsborough County wont see that money again. A classic example of govt waste and ineffeciency. Other counties don't do this. Reclassify them, cancel the pensions and use their pay for restitution.
by beth
Apr 17, 2008 8:55 AM
why not pay them as sub contractors and give them a 1099 so they actually pay taxes and contribute to the system witch supports them.
by Real McCoy
Apr 16, 2008 6:24 PM
Olivia, read the article, the county has already paid almost $170,000 in benefit funds.
by Olivia
Apr 16, 2008 6:01 PM
they will never qualify for beneifits anyway so whats the big deal
by Bob
Apr 16, 2008 5:55 PM
Do the words lunacy/idiocy ring any bells with these politicos. No wonder they don't have jobs in the real world.
by kathy faye
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
This gives new meaning to the phrase "career criminal." Too funny.
by Andy
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
Yeah Josh. I don't agree with giving them pensions either, but these people are not likely in county jail for murder. You undermine your point when you ignore the facts.
by Kelly
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
This makes me want to quit my mundane job and go commit a crime. You are fed 3 meals a day and have free room and board while in prison, that's MORE than enough!!
by Real McCoy
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
Criminals taking care of their own. Politicians making sure they have an income when they get arrested for frauding us. Honesty is a nice asset, but in Florida CRIME PAYS. What happened to 'cheaters never prospere'? Only in Flori-DUH!!
by MIRANDA
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
WHAT ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT? WHAT ABOUT MAKING A WAY FOR THESE DEAD BEAT DADS TO MAKE PAYMENTS TO HELP SUPPORT THERE CHILDREN...
by Bob
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
Why not give the inmates retirement? Just think about the double/triple dippers throughout the state. Either way, they are all crooks.
by Jennifer
Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM
Nobody is going to do that kind of hot, sweaty work cleaning ditches for free, when they can just sit in jail.: That's the problem right there. They should be required to do this type of work FOR FREE as part of their sentence!
by Billy Bob
Apr 16, 2008 1:52 PM
"It takes six years of service to qualify for the state's pension plan".
My God, no wonder we're going broke. This is much bigger than the original story. Forget the prisoners, look at the thousands of ex-civil employees w
by Jim
Apr 16, 2008 1:48 PM
Hey Senator Alexander, instead of joking about it, try doing your job and fix it!!!
by Mike
Apr 16, 2008 1:24 PM
What the hell is it with the Times and pensions?
by Pete
Apr 16, 2008 1:24 PM
Short and sweet. You've got to be kidding! These are inmates NOT choir Boys. This is their payback to society.
by LittleBro
Apr 16, 2008 11:15 AM
Josh - from where in the world did you get THAT idea?
by Cunagunda
Apr 16, 2008 10:46 AM
I think the pension is a wonderful idea. Jeez, something civil for once in the land of the great PX and many turn resentful and bitter. You forget, it's all about correction and rehabilitation.
by Bob
Apr 16, 2008 10:37 AM
This is the most ridiculous travesty of legislation I have every heard. Is this a new form of stealing from Peter to pay Paul? Who ever instituted and voted for this, their names should be published. Give me a break.
by Josh
Apr 16, 2008 10:35 AM
"While you're doing your life sentence, you can get a state retirement!"
Only in Florida!
by Chip
Apr 16, 2008 10:34 AM
Crooks get a pension, illegal Mexicans get free health services and food stamps, and elected officials retire, then get rehired with a raise. Thankfully we have such high taxes so we can help these unfortunate people realize the American Dream.
by Sandy
Apr 16, 2008 10:13 AM
Let me get this straight, commit a crime, receive FREE room and board AND receive retirement benefits? Where can I sign up????
by geezer
Apr 16, 2008 10:07 AM
Minimum wage? Well what's good enough for the crooks in Hillsborough should be good enough for the crooks in Tallahassee!
by Ana
Apr 16, 2008 10:06 AM
WHAT THE HECK! What is going on in Florida?? This is totally stupid. A normal working person has a hard time getting a retirement fund..and an inmate can do it for basically digging a frikken ditch?? O M G
by LittleBro
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
Knee jerk, as usual. These are not hardened criminals. They worked for the county as did all the other employees. They didn't earn a lot but they worked under a system with a retirement play. Why not pay them and cut off the double dippers?
by art
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
DAM%$# ! I've worked for the same company for almost six years and I'm not entitled to a pension. Hmmmm....Perhaps I should have knocked off a 7 11 or something?
by Tired Taxpayer
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
If obtaining a State pension while being a convit is legal in the State, then believe that the convits, who are also getting their PhD's for free,at taxpayers expense, will jump on the plan.
by gary
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
Maybe these criminals are former politicians. Or the Politicians are former criminals or the criminals are current Politicians double dipping it's all so confusing. I figure all the criminals have better benefits then the hard workers like Mysel
by Mark
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
Great. Someone robs and hurts me, gets a reward, and I can't pay the medical bills they created for me. Thanks.
by Mary
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
I don't agree that these inmates should be included in a pension plan; but what about the "double dippers" in the state. You don't see anyone getting rid of that one!
by Ben
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
Just another example of "your" government in action. The govt. bumbles everything. Yet YOU want govt healthcare. There is a new story about govt incompetence everyday..Wake up people!!!
by someone
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
162741 distributed evenly between 640 inmates is 254.28 per inmate... "most inmates made between $1,000 and $5,000 working for the county"....the math doesn't add up in the story, something doesn't make sense... or am I just not a
by JT
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
At least they are Americans. The Democrats in Congress want to make it so that illegal aliens can get Social Security credits for the work they "declare" they have done while here illegally. That will surely sink the system. Nice trap Georg
by PASCO PETE
Apr 16, 2008 8:57 AM
GREAT NOW SHERIFF WHITE OF PASCO WILL READ THIS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW HE CAN DO THIS AND SOME HOW MAKE MORE MONEY FOR HIM AND HIS WEALTHY SUPPORTERS .
by Rich
Apr 16, 2008 8:56 AM
B.S. If you do then they must pay for food, housing, medical, cable, A/C, Heat, clothes, laundry, personals. TV, etc....They should get only a place to sleep, and 3 meals a day...NOTHING else...they are in JAIL, not on vacation...Punish not reward!
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