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Accepting Fla. vote could boost Obama

By Adam C. Smith, Times Political Editor
In print: Thursday, May 8, 2008


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Here's a way for Barack Obama to nudge Hillary Rodham Clinton out of the race: Step up and join her call to count the votes of 1.75-million Florida Democrats.

No, the all but inevitable Democratic nominee is not obligated to recognize Florida's disputed Jan. 29 primary. Nor does he need to buy into Clinton's suspect argument that Florida deserves 100 percent of its delegates at the national convention.

But if Obama wants to eliminate one of Clinton's last rationales for staying in the race, and if he wants to curb the considerable skepticism about his interest and ability to compete in America's biggest battleground state, he should start mending Sunshine State fences and speak out about counting Florida's votes.

"That could potentially open the floodgates for superdelegates to come on board if he was that gracious and that comfortable in his inevitability to win the nomination,'' said Bob Buckhorn, a Democratic consultant in Tampa who backs Clinton. "It would go a long way to ease the anger that remains over Florida's votes not counting."

After Tuesday's huge win in North Carolina and narrow loss in Indiana, there's no longer any real risk for Obama in letting Clinton pick up a decent number of delegates in the state she won by 17 percentage points.

For weeks, at least twice as many superdelegates have been moving to Obama as to Clinton, and even under the best-case scenario she can't catch Obama in elected delegates.

"If Michigan and Florida are seated fully we estimate we would pick up 58 delegates, putting us within a margin of less than 100 total delegates separating Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton," Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer told reporters Wednesday.

That's still well behind, and no objective observer thinks Michigan and Florida will be fully counted. When 48 other states abided by the party rules against holding primaries too early, why would the Democratic National Committee allow Florida and Michigan to avoid any penalty at all for jumping in line?

A DNC rules panel is scheduled to hear appeals May 31 that, at best, are likely to cut Florida's and Michigan's pledged delegate totals in half. Depending on what arcane formula is used for Florida, Clinton could wind up with either six delegates, 19 delegates or something in between.

"When all the smoke clears, probably it will be high single digits or low double digits,'' said Allan Katz of Tallahassee, an Obama fundraiser and DNC rules committee member.

Surely Obama can spare 19 delegates in the name of goodwill in Florida. We're talking 27 electoral votes, after all. For a candidate who has repeatedly dismissed the votes of 1.75-million Florida Democrats and keeps struggling to win over Jewish voters, Hispanic voters and seniors, he'll need all the help he can get here.

"Florida is the one state where we probably suffer the most from lack of campaign activity compared to the rest of the country and yet (a Quinnipiac University poll last week showed) a dead heat with us and John McCain,'' Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Wednesday.

"We believe Florida is going to be an enormously competitive state in the fall, and we're anxious once we get this nomination behind us to build a winning campaign in the state of Florida," said Plouffe, who has also repeatedly dismissed the significance of Florida's Jan. 29 vote.

The fact is that contest, officially meaningless or not, was a fair election — not like Michigan where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot. Sure he would have done better if he had campaigned in Florida, but he chose not to.

Florida Democrats were paying close attention to the race, they turned out in record numbers and, according to a St. Petersburg Times poll, mainly to vote for president. Obama risks alienating voters he will need if he continues to discount that vote.

Clinton, of course, is not so pure on this count-the-votes business.

She signed a pledge to boycott Florida's primary and never fussed about counting the votes until it became clear her candidacy was not inevitable. Her campaign has done zip to help reach a compromise.

"We have been now for over a month trying to engage in coming up with what would be a fair solution, but there just hasn't been the willingness on the part of the Clinton camp to get this behind us,'' said Frank Sanchez, a top Obama fundraiser and adviser from Tampa.

But Obama's in the driver's seat now, and the nomination no longer hangs in the balance. If he came out and endorsed a reasonable solution that recognizes Clinton handily won Florida on Jan. 29, the DNC rules committee would find a way to get Florida resolved on May 31.

Ironically, the weaker the count-every-Florida-vote candidate looks, the easier it will be to get Florida's votes counted.

"I don't know how long it will take for the Clinton campaign to sink in that it's over, but once it has, there will be a deal," said Katz.

Adam C. Smith can be reached at asmith@sptimes.com or (727)893-8241.



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Comments on this article
by Joan May 12, 2008 10:34 AM
Do you really think we are that stupid? do you think that we will not realize that Obama will let the votes be counted only when he thinks she cannot win. You waited too long DNC. Forget my vote in November. Only one thing to say "Alice Palmer".
by Joan May 12, 2008 10:33 AM
I'm tired of every true fact being called racist. It"s true that blacks are voting for O, because he is black, and some whites are voting against him because he is black. Blacks are voting against HC because she is white. Some because she is a woman
by Francine May 9, 2008 6:30 PM
Fair, are you kidding!If I didn't happen to be a homeowner, and wasn't interested in lowing my property taxes, I would not have gone to the polls that day. The local news media made it clear that there was no need to go. Glad I did. Voted for Obama.
by Deb May 9, 2008 4:53 PM
Well, I've already sent an email to the DNC telling them if they did not do right by Sen. Clinton I would be staying home in November..... First 2000... now 2008... why bother to show up at all.
by Dale May 9, 2008 1:10 PM
This disgusts me to no end. The Republican dominated legislature sure knew what they were doing when they 'jumped the line.'And the Democrats went right along. Once again, the Democratic party has managed to pull defeat from the very jaws of victory
by Yvonne May 9, 2008 11:18 AM
I do believe that the delegates will be counted&seated at the convention. Please let it be know that I would like to have everyone in the state of FLA votes to be counted. But they(Fla) d/n play by the rules. I wish all of you the best of luck.
by Yvonne May 9, 2008 11:18 AM
To all voters of Florida, Senator Obama did cause the problems that you are having. Take your problems to your DC within your state. Everyone knew the rules prior to voting. OBAMA is not your problem. ALL voters of FLA is.
by JJ May 8, 2008 9:04 PM
When we knowingly broke the rules, why are so many crying about it. We knew ahead of time what the consequences would be for us. Don't blame the candidates.
by Mike May 8, 2008 5:37 PM
Once again, Florida screwed it all up. Their votes should count for nothing.
by David May 8, 2008 2:48 PM
I do not like the idea of ceding much at all to Florida's delegation. It would tell the rest of our state parties: "hey, go ahead and violate national party rules. there are no real consequences." Greetings from a state that played by the rules.
by SEJ May 8, 2008 2:27 PM
It's funny to me that people now blame Obama because Fla's votes are not being counted.The 2000 elections was stolen here is Fla!Remember the chads!Obama is the better 4 the job because we need something different than the same of way of bu
by Jesse May 8, 2008 2:26 PM
Mr Smith and others consistently suggest that Florida held a "fair" election - however, as a Florida voter, I was told from the outset that my vote would not count - so I voted for Kucinich - if it were a real primary, I woul
by Helen May 8, 2008 10:00 AM
I'm with Gene. I won't vote for McCain but won't vote for Obama either....If McCain wins, Hillary can come back in 4 years and beat him. Let McCain try to clear up some of the mess first.
by Michael May 8, 2008 10:00 AM
I voted for Clinton in the primary, but her gas tax position has moved me to be pro-Obama. The consumer wouldn't see a penny of benefit. If you take away the tax, oil companies will raise the price to fill the gap - esp if you tax th
by Michael May 8, 2008 10:00 AM
It's certainly not unexpected that some won't vote for Obama due to race. He knows it, everybody knows it. It evens out because, as Jojo says, many blacks will vote based on the same criteria. Those votes more or less wash. Total net impa
by Earl May 8, 2008 10:00 AM
JoJo-you so brave to announce your racist foolishness from the safety of your mama's basement. Do you talk like that in the light of day with adults around? I'd say more, but it would be lost on an idiot like you. Stick to video games.
by Lisa May 8, 2008 9:59 AM
tens of thousands of us did not vote because we were told it would not count. Many more showed up just to vote for/against amendment one. I realize Obama is not pushing 4 this, but how can Hill think it's appropriate to count under those conditi
by Barry May 8, 2008 9:59 AM
jojo- you're proud to be a racist? you're also either ignorant or just stupid. JH- ALL the Dem nominees agreed not to campaign here due to the DNC rules. Rick- This was not Obama's choice, nor is he the one saying to cou
by Fred May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
I was told my vote wouldn't count. I voted accordingly, without research or an understanding of the candidates' record or positions. And this is the vote they want to count?
by Ryan May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
Gene, that's some pretty awful rationale. you're feelings are hurt so you'll allow 4 more years of bad leadership. Wonderful
by JH May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
Obama has made it clear he does not care for the Dem voters of FL. He won't get my vote in Nov.
by Rick May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
Oh, NOW he should count the votes. Now that everything is decided and politically "safe", Obama should claim to be our champion?? As I suspected, Obama is a political "coward" who only comes out of his bunker when the "all cl
by jojo May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
Blacks are voting for him just because he is black. I am voting against him for the same reason.
by Phil May 8, 2008 8:54 AM
We are a renegade state who violated the rules. We understood the rules and the punishment. But didn't care, and violated the rules anyway. Imagine civil and criminal rules being broken, and people thinking they are above the rules.
by Gene May 8, 2008 8:18 AM
If my vote doesn't count now, a Dem. will not get my vote in Nov.
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