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New gun rights could affect concealment law

By Jennifer Liberto, Times Staff Writer
In print: Friday, June 27, 2008


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TALLAHASSEE — Florida is already gun friendly, so the U.S. Supreme Court decision Thursday bolstering individual gun rights likely will not have an immediate impact on state gun laws. It could, however, affect a federal court case involving a controversial new law allowing people to keep guns in their cars at work.

The high court decision came a day after U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle in Tallahassee quizzed lawyers about the scope of the Second Amendment as he considered a new law that allows people with concealed weapons permits to keep their guns in their cars at work.

The law pits gun rights versus private property rights and stirred a battle between two factions of the Republican Party — big business and gun-rights advocates. The Florida Retail Federation and the Florida Chamber of Commerce filed a lawsuit to stop the guns-to-work law from taking effect Tuesday. Hinkle said his busy schedule will keep him from deciding before Tuesday, though he could rule by mid July.

The limitations of the Second Amendment came up a few times during a hearing this week as lawyers debated whether the Legislature had a "rational" basis for passing the law. During the two-hour hearing Wednesday, Hinkle pointed out that the Second Amendment's right to bear arms is written in terms of preventing government from disarming militias. He said the Second Amendment didn't extend to self-defense against private persons.

That changed Thursday when the Supreme Court decided for the first time that individuals have a right to bear arms for self-defense. NRA attorney Chris Kise said the decision bolsters their case that lawmakers knew what they were doing when they passed a law protecting employees' and customers' rights to keep guns for self-defense in their cars, no matter where the cars are parked.

But Barry Richard, the Florida Retail Federation's attorney, insisted that Thursday's decision does not affect the Florida case. He said the Supreme Court case dealt with curtailing gun rights, and the Florida case deals with curtailing private property rights.

A few legal professors agreed with Kise. Jon Mills, a law professor at the University of Florida in Gainesville, said, "It does have an effect, and it will be on people's minds from now on."



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Comments on this article
by Carole Jun 30, 2008 4:30 PM
The column was fine but I must tell you that I am sorry to see the decline in the Times' editing procedure. So many spelling typos and other errors. In your column, the word 'bare' was used in reference to 'bearing' arms. Just an opinion.
by joe tampa Jun 27, 2008 7:02 PM
The liberal Times is inaccurate- again. There are no 'new' gun rights. And Florida will continue to have concealed permits. It's just the good ole- Second Amendment further defined.
by Ann Jun 27, 2008 7:02 PM
Jim, the heat makes carrying your concealed gun uncomfortable? Two choices: 1. Don't carry the gun even though you really want to show it off. 2. Join the police and learn how to carry a gun, bullet proof vest & 10 more pounds of stuff in the heat.
by Matt Jun 27, 2008 5:58 PM
No con-control law I've ever read about has successfully reduced crime, not even the Brady Bill. It's time to recognize the true goal of these corporate funded hoplophobes...people control.
by tash Jun 27, 2008 5:58 PM
jim, research is your friend. then-governor bob martinez and the fla. legislature enacted open carry in the late 80's, but repealed it w/in a few turbulent months. you may still open carry anywhere the "castle" doctrine applies if you wish.
by dan Jun 27, 2008 5:13 PM
they wear them here !
by Jim Jun 27, 2008 9:49 AM
If Florida is so gun-friendly, why can I not wear my gun openly in public, as in many other states? I have a carry permit but still must conceal it, an uncomfortable problem in this heat.
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