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Lehman bankruptcy to weigh on Florida

By Jennifer Liberto and Sydney Freedberg, Times Staff Writers
In print: Tuesday, September 16, 2008


Elizabeth Rose, a specialist with Lehman Brothers MarketMakers, works her post on the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Monday. Florida owns more half a billion dollars worth of stocks and bonds in Lehman Brothers.
Elizabeth Rose, a specialist with Lehman Brothers MarketMakers, works her post on the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Monday. Florida owns more half a billion dollars worth of stocks and bonds in Lehman Brothers.
[Associated Press]
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TALLAHASSEE — The state of Florida could lose more than tens of millions of dollars as Wall Street icon Lehman Brothers heads into bankruptcy.

And the financial trouble might not end there.

At the end of August, the State Board of Administration held more than $8-billion of investments in other troubled companies. The group includes investment firm Merrill Lynch, insurance company AIG, savings and loan Washington Mutual and government-backed mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, many of which continued to drop in value this past week.

SBA officials and financial experts say it's too early to tell how those investments will hold up in coming months or what impact Lehman Brothers' historic downfall will have on state finances.

"It's pure speculation at this point what the value of any securities would be,'' said Joel H. Levitin, a bankruptcy lawyer with New York-based Cahill Gordon & Reindel. "I don't know how anybody could have enough information to put a meaningful value on the equities or the bonds at this point."

Florida owns more half a billion dollars worth of stocks and bonds in Lehman Brothers, spread throughout Citizens Property Insurance Corp. and the Florida Treasury and funds managed by the State Board of Administration, or SBA.

Florida's Retirement System has the most Lehman Brothers stocks and bonds, which topped $300-million on Sept. 10. That's less than 1 percent of the pension plan's total of $125-billion, according to SBA records. Most of the Lehman Brothers investments are fixed income securities, including bonds, which typically get priority over stocks in bankruptcy proceedings.

Still Lehman's bankruptcy could be painful, with its stock holdings, at roughly $68-million, potentially "wiped out," Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink told the St. Petersburg Times on Friday. Already SBA was reporting losses on Monday of about $55-million in Lehman stocks and another $29-million in fixed income holdings.

Despite the problems, Florida's retirement pension fund — the nation's fourth-largest public retirement plan — continues to be one of the best-funded in the country with a $6-billion surplus, experts say.

"It's scary," said Richard Ferlauto, director of pension policy at the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees union in Washington.

"It's never good to be in a down-market. But (Florida's pension fund) can weather this storm better than most."

Lehman Brothers was one of several brokers that sold the SBA billions in shaky, mortgage-related securities that ran into trouble last year and were eventually downgraded by rating agencies.

The SBA had been considering a lawsuit against Lehman after Gov. Charlie Crist and Chief Financial Officer Sink, who serve on the SBA's three-member board of trustees, said they suspect the firm dumped tainted securities on the state. SBA had been in negotiations with Lehman over the bad debt.

The SBA board of trustees, including Sink, Crist and Attorney General Bill McCollum, are expected to discuss Lehman Brothers holdings at today's meeting, as they're scheduled to get briefed on the long-term health of the pension plan, which Sink had requested at the last Cabinet meeting.

Sink said she was concerned, because the pension plan's value dropped 4.4 percent in fiscal year 2007-08.

The Chicago firm Ennis Knupp & Associates analyzed the pension plan as of Sept. 10 and reported that even with the drop, the pension is "well preserved" for the long term: "A year in which performance falls well below the target is not an unexpected occurrence."

Pinellas and Hillsborough counties and the city of St. Petersburg were not invested in Lehman Brothers, they reported Monday.

But all state investment financial chiefs were watching the financial markets closely.

"I don't think anyone with any investments will be able to say there will be no impact," said Tish Elston, St. Petersburg deputy mayor. "You don't know when something like this happens what it means to the entire investment community."

Times staff writers Connie Humburg, Cristina Silva, Will Van Sant and Bill Varian contributed to this report.



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Comments on this article
by garret Sep 22, 2008 10:42 AM
At least Florida's maximum possible losses to their retirement funds is only a quarter of a percent, drop in the bucket. many other states must deal with 2,000 or more layoffs, not to mention market loss
by PT Sep 21, 2008 6:24 PM
History: George W. "Herbert Hoover" Bush. Those who refuse to study history are condemned to repeat it....or worse.
by Mary Sep 20, 2008 11:06 PM
Thank you Jeb!!! I wonder - are you still getting your paycheck from them???
by gus Sep 20, 2008 10:57 PM
Hey paul, lb lorraine, and all the rest of u yo-yo's Take charge of u're own life and quit looking @ any of these political hacks, either rep, or dem's. Buy guns, ammo & c-rats (mre's)and fight 4 ur'e rite to party!!!
by ed Sep 20, 2008 10:33 PM
where was this ALEX SINK when all of this was GOING DOWN?? SHE ALWAYS IS READY TO COMMENT ON WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS OR HAS NOT DONE!! LETS HEAR FROM HER ON HER PERFORMANCS, OR LACK THEREOF!
by Carol Sep 20, 2008 10:12 PM
I spent 18 years working for the State of Florida and my pension is just peanuts----but it helps. The Bush family has destroyed our economy. I bet Jeb draws big bucks. Go after him.
by Albert Sep 19, 2008 8:28 PM
This is absurd! All the parties involved from LB to the FL government should have to pay with fines and prison time. Everyone knows the higher the chance at a return the higher the risk Allowing all the safety's to be overlooked/ignored is idiotic!
by Irritated Sep 19, 2008 8:28 PM
Clinton, G. Bush Sr, and sons are all to blame for these problems all seem to be involved in the dirty deals Jeb caused allowed this in FL and should have to pay for it MAYBE WE SHOULD BRING GRAHM BACK TO THE STATE LEVEL WHERE HE DO US THE MOST GOOD!
by kelly Sep 19, 2008 5:54 PM
Yes !!! JEB should be questioned about the funding !! I want my retirement !!
by uthink Sep 18, 2008 8:57 PM
the easy way out is to blame everybody else, whats up with the CEO'S AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF RUNNING THE SHOW?? ALWAYS EVERYBODY WANTS TO BLAME THE GOVERNMENT. WHAT A JOKE!
by Sean Sep 18, 2008 8:55 PM
Open your eyes, ditto heads of the GOP propoganda machine. The GOP is a propoganda machine for the rich and powerfull.
by Jim Sep 18, 2008 9:27 AM
Crist and McCollum need to put in a call to Jeb.Ask what he knew of all this and when he knew it.If we are to learn anything from this epic event some heads will need to roll.Otherwise,history repeats.The Bush boys are so good at this.Remember Neil ?
by Fl Employee Sep 18, 2008 9:27 AM
Just another case of the Republican/Bush screw to all of the state's employees...
by James Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
The bad thing is tax payers end up with the bill while execs and politicians get away with millions when we should just say the hell with it and let them fold and prosecute those resposible for all the problems and mishandling of FL Funds
by web Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
you get what you vote for
by Stacey Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
Wow and the Republicans keep saying no more big government, hey how about some big government that does something for us!
by Chloe Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
I know a real estate agent who is in foreclosure with signs that she wants to rent her condo (which is already going into foreclosure). Are these real estate agents under any scrutiny? Why isn't Rutenburg aware of this agent who works for him?
by JIM Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
me i would make them suffer for there mistakes about those questable loans why has the gov have to bail every tom dick and harry out because of there failures on the loans that they made if it was a common person business failing screw that person
by Honor Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
What do you think Paul....that the Clintons (or Jimmy Carter) were worth a cent? Do you know your history? Not.
by Sheila Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
I agree - JEB BUSH SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES!!
by Dan Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
Hey lets run out to the money tree and bail out Lehman, why not the tax payers are now going to bail out AIG. The middle class gets screwed again by the republicans.
by Harry Sep 17, 2008 1:25 PM
Jeb Bush & George W's second cousin both worked for Lehman Bros. What a shocker - NOT! Do we see a theme here? Alex Sink should take Jeb down! They shouldn't be above the law & WE shouldn't have to suffer. They should! Crist didn't know either? Bull!
by Brenda Sep 17, 2008 1:24 PM
Can't believe we are in this much trouble, no regulation of banking and finance has caused this mess. Let's get out of it with a new administations in Washington.
by Doreen Sep 17, 2008 1:21 PM
I don't understand how these state funds were able to purchase such risky investments. Were these duties outsourced to Houston, maybe China?
by Jose Sep 17, 2008 11:53 AM
Are you better off today, than you were 8 years ago?
by Paul Sep 16, 2008 7:23 PM
Wow! Nobody can screw things up like the Republicans. Anyone who wants 4 more years of this is a masochist.
by LB Sep 16, 2008 5:13 PM
Jeb has been on the payroll at Lehman--on the board. Can't people connect the dots?
by PASCO PETE Sep 16, 2008 1:29 PM
JEB BUSH SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES!!
by joe Sep 16, 2008 10:28 AM
Where was the SEC in all of this? there were slot of government officials of both parties that were asleep at the wheel.
by Joshu Jones Sep 16, 2008 10:04 AM
No mention of Jeb? Come on, let's report all the news here, not whitewash over the Bush dynasty's involvement in our financial crisis.
by Sam Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM
Jeb Bush ? You mean Gov. Charlie Crist don't you ? This is what happens when you hire someone for a specific job and they spend all of their time auditioning and looking for another job , VP ; neglecting their job or position . Something suffers !
by Will Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM
Those voting "yes" on Amendment 1 (against the Time's wishes) must be proud of themselves today. These "losses" can't be added to real estate assessments...w/o the outrage=losing a lot of local officials. Before #1, it could've been hidden.
by frank Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM
W says it's just an economic downturn and we've got terrorists to catch, so buck up america.
by Arlene Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM
Yep, Good ole Jeb was a paid consultant for Leaman Brothers. No more. I in 50 years have never seen an economy this bad. Inflation, higher unemployment, housing and banking crisis. the PERFECT ECONOMIC STORM. And we will all be unemployed.
by Pete Sep 16, 2008 9:38 AM
I'm nearing the end of my rope. No wage increase in 3 yrs, now my pension is under attack. This is all getting to be too much.
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