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Editor's note: This story was clarified Saturday to reflect that Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway is "somewhat optimistic" about passage of a state constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage.
By
Alex Leary, Times staff writer
In print: Saturday, September 20, 2008
Floridians want to relax off-shore drilling rules and are likely to ban gay marriage. But they still like their governor.
A proposal to ban gay marriage in the Florida Constitution is within striking distance of success, according to a new poll.
The St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9 survey shows 58 percent of voters approve the proposal to define marriage as between a man and woman.
The poll, which was also underwritten by the Miami Herald, has a margin of error of 3.5 percent, meaning Amendment 2 has a shot at getting the 60 percent required to amend the state Constitution.
The poll showed 37 percent oppose the measure and 5 percent are undecided.
The new poll shows a slight increase over one conducted Sept. 2-4 by Quinnipiac University Polling Institute that showed 55 percent approval and a 2.6 percent margin of error.
The new poll comes as proponents launched an aggressive campaign to spread the word through church congregations.
"From the foundations of this earth, that's what God made it to be, between a man and a woman," said Joyce Payne, 68, a Temple Terrace Republican who participated in the poll. "I'm sorry it's even coming to a vote. These homosexual rights are just being forced on us."
But the proposed ban — similar to a current state law — is not certain to pass given the 60 percent threshold, which voters approved in 2006, at the Legislature's urging, to keep frivolous measures out of the state Constitution.
"When I was younger, I would have been for the ban," said Victor Collazo, 35, an independent voter in Orlando. "I'm Catholic, and I know what the Bible says, but sometimes you just have to change. People have rights."
Support among Republicans was an overwhelming 74 percent, while only 44 percent of Democrats want the ban. Independents are nearly divided. But in a year when there is the first African-American major party candidate on the presidential ballot, 65 percent of black poll respondents said they would vote for Amendment 2.
Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway is "somewhat optimistic" about passage, and notes that it enjoys majority support among a broad array of voter groups. She said the current economic turmoil makes voters more likely to support the status quo on cultural matters, which would mean voting for the amendment. "With the economy and so much uncertainty, people often don't want to say yes."
Florida headed in wrong direction
A new St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9 poll suggests Floridians aren't too happy with their state. They want to drill and are likely to ban gay marriage. But they still like their governor.
58 percent of Florida voters want to amend the state Constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman, thereby prohibiting marriage between homosexuals. The so-called gay marriage ban, on the ballot as Amendment 2, needs 60 percent approval to pass in November. 37 percent of voters oppose the measure.
59 percent support oil drilling closer than 125 miles from the Florida coast. No real surprise here. As gas prices grew at the pump, so did Floridians' tolerance for offshore drilling. Two years ago, as gas prices approached $3, 46 percent said they supported lifting the drilling ban off Florida's coast. Now with gas close to $4, the sentiment appears to have grown. 33 percent of voters still oppose drilling.
John McCain may have passed him over for running mate, but Floridians still like their governor. 53 percent give Gov. Charlie Crist a favorable job rating, down from 57 percent in a January poll. Crist took office 20 months ago, and 13 percent of voters rated his performance as excellent; 40 percent said good. 34 percent of voters gave him fair ratings; 11 percent poor.
51 percent say Florida is headed in the wrong direction. Amid the turmoil in the national economy, Floridians' view of their own state turned more pessimistic during the past 10 months. In January, 50 percent said the state was headed in the wrong direction; in November 2007, 44 percent. The new poll shows 32 percent think Florida is heading in the right direction and 10 percent are mixed.
About the poll: The telephone survey of 800 registered voters was conducted Sept. 14-17 by SEA Polling and Strategic Design, whose clients are primarily Democrats, and the Polling Co., which works mainly with Republicans. The poll, also underwritten by the Miami Herald, has a margin of error of 3.5 percent.
[Last modified: Sep 26, 2008 08:51 PM]
Comments on this article
by Nick
Sep 26, 2008 8:51 PM
Amendment 2 bans all domestic partnerships. 70% of all registered domestic partnerships in the state are heterosexual unmarried couples. And many of those are seniors living together to share expenses and health benefits. Think twice folks.
by Peter
Sep 26, 2008 3:31 PM
I would like to be clear about this- America simply doesn't have the capacity for offshore drilling. Of the ships that service such med-deep water drilling, 80% have longterm contracts in S. America. They also cost 800-1000 million $ to build..each.
by Stan
Sep 25, 2008 6:27 PM
Let's not write hate into the Constitution. Gay marriage is already illegal the racist, homophobic Republicans just want to take another stab at the gay community.
by Tom
Sep 25, 2008 4:24 PM
Let's not fight. Come on folks amendment 2 will pass and put the issue to rest. The good thing is we can all move forward and focus on other issues that will make all our lives better. Then Barack Obama will unite us and it will all be good.
by Jonathan
Sep 24, 2008 2:55 PM
Those of us who understand tolerance and acceptance of love are struggling against bigotry and hate in the name of Jesus Chirst. Whether this admendment passes or not, Christ is ashamed of those who denied the right of others to love and be married.
by ...t.
Sep 23, 2008 8:01 PM
I love Florida for all of it's beauty. I have been blessed to be raised on the nature coast.It saddens me deeply to see it being destroyed by greed and ignorance.The thought of drilling is appalling.I am grieved that Floridians would accept this.
by ...t.
Sep 23, 2008 6:14 PM
If marriage is considered that of a man and woman b/c the bible says it's so then it is a religious union and by the separation of church state I shouldn't have had to pay the state $100 bucks for a marriage license. You have to pick.
by Randy
Sep 23, 2008 5:32 PM
I'm a hetero married male and I can't believe we are wasting tax dollars and legislative time on something that is no ones business but the parties involved. Who cares, you have to ask yourself one thing, does it affect me directly & how I live, NO!!
by Amy
Sep 22, 2008 1:34 PM
Hallin your comment makes no sense...sure gays could just not discuss it, obviously the point is that they deserve the same rights you and i have, and that's why people are speaking up!
by LibbyRal
Sep 22, 2008 11:34 AM
how insane. we killing thousands in an unjust war, the economy is down the tubes, our right to privacy has been given away, homes are unaffordable, crist has done NOTHING, and we're worried about THIS?
by Robert
Sep 22, 2008 10:03 AM
This issue is about love and marriage between two people who love, and about responsable couples who love live and work together to build a home and support each other in life. That includes benefits offered and needed. a vote no on 2 is whats right.
by JB
Sep 21, 2008 7:31 PM
I'll buy the "God's law" argument when republicans propose laws banning premarital sex, adultery, eating pork, keeping the sabbath, etc... until then, stop being such a hypocrite! your religion is your business - stay out of my business please
by Bonnie
Sep 21, 2008 6:25 PM
Let's pass Ammendment 2 for our children - they deserve a healthy future!
by Larry
Sep 20, 2008 11:11 PM
there is no change, sp times missed the real story. voters never approved of changing the definition of marriage. that was just the sp times talking to itself....
by Jeff
Sep 20, 2008 11:10 PM
I am so enraged by the pathetic media who claim this will ban gay marriage - its ALREADY illegal! The fundmentalists just want to take away benefits from unmarried couples gay AND straight. How sickeningly pathetic and bitter.
by Juanbo
Sep 20, 2008 11:08 PM
Dril baby drill... unless you're gay
by lenegal
Sep 20, 2008 11:08 PM
Florida is indeed the Redneck Rivera. Bigotry and hate are the mantra of the Religous ones. Meanwhile, their paychecks get smaller and smaller. I'm moving back north. Fl. is in the toilet economy wise, but they are sniffing in your affairs.
by hallin
Sep 20, 2008 11:07 PM
A- MAN- DUH ....It's the GD lib left wingers who even made an ISSUE of it...It you libs had just kept your pie holes SHUT, it would not be an issue...So quit blaming the Republicans...Did you, Libs and Amanda - never hear of "don't ask, don't tell"..
by Kate
Sep 20, 2008 11:06 PM
The American Psychiatric Assoc'n and American Academy of Pediatrics both endorsed same-sex civil marriage because research confirms that it?s good for children, parents, and seniors. Does anyone care about our families? Don't we deserve equality?
by Will
Sep 20, 2008 11:05 PM
Let's see, last year the Times did a whole series of polls, editorials, articles, showing Floridians would never support Amendment 1..hopefully you've gotten a better pollster this time and your money back from last year's.
by Anne
Sep 20, 2008 11:04 PM
Can anyone intelligently debate the gay marriage issue/"homosexual rights" issue without injecting religion? I thought not. Because rights are rights, not special rights, not gay rights, just rights. Everyone deserves them, but many are denied.
by Zeke
Sep 20, 2008 11:02 PM
All who oppose Amendment 2, please talk to family, friend, anyone who will listen. Explain the terrible effects this Amendment will have on straight, senior citizen and gay unmarried couples. For help info is available at www.votenoon2.com.
by Jan
Sep 20, 2008 11:01 PM
American citizens should all have equal rights regarding marriage and anything else!
by Kim
Sep 20, 2008 10:59 PM
What has Crist done for Florida?
Fla going in the wrong direction?
What direction is it and which way is the correct direction? Marrage is between a man/woman. Gays can have a civil contract.
by Jesse
Sep 20, 2008 10:56 PM
After reading this polls results; I FEEL GOOD!!!
by Ray
Sep 20, 2008 10:54 PM
State facing financial crisis and Republicans are running on gay marriage. Is this any way to gevern??
by Phil
Sep 20, 2008 10:54 PM
I guess the phrase "no one knows what goes on behind closed doors" means nothing to our "parents" the politicians. Why don't you religious nut jobs and politicians stay out of some one else's bedroom. No I am not gay.
by Erick
Sep 20, 2008 10:54 PM
It blows my mind to see that people are so willing to deny others' their civil rights, especially that blacks support this legislation. It is no different than the Civil Rights legislation in the '60's. And just so everyone knows, MAN wrote thebible
by Jeff
Sep 20, 2008 10:37 PM
People do not have the RIGHT to do ANYTHING they want. What if someone wanted to marry a dog? or what if a 30 yr. old man wanted to marry a 9 yr old girl? The marriage ammendment is not about "rights" it is about drawing a line in the sand.
by Tony
Sep 20, 2008 10:36 PM
Vot NO on Amendment 2!
by Bob
Sep 20, 2008 10:36 PM
How can anyone, with half a brain like our non-existant Gov. (Amendment 1, what a railroad job on the voters!)Not showing up at the Rep. convention (what hurricane?) "Use common sence" what the,@$#%&? Oil spills RUIN beaches! Ask a Texan!!
by Proudlyleftbehind
Sep 20, 2008 10:32 PM
As this country tanks economically the only voter concern is with telling others how to live by banning gay marriage and teaching abstinence only sex ed. these are 15th century solutions for 21st century problems. What's next, the Inquisition?
by mark
Sep 20, 2008 10:30 PM
While at it why not do a poll of the St. Pete Times. I know it would not be good. Most have no respect for the rag of a newspaper. Sorry, but it is the truth!
by Ron
Sep 20, 2008 10:25 PM
It is an outrage a vote is even taking place! How absurd to have popular opinion and vote determining minority rights! Minority rights are inalienable and must be absolutely equal to non-minority rights. Anything else is a disgrace to America.
by jay
Sep 20, 2008 10:21 PM
funny how this article carefully avoids the real issues here. Property taxes and insurance, crumbling the entire states economy. Yes just avoid the important things and talk about everything else. The governor is an incompetent thief.
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