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Whether Florida bans gay marriage in its state Constitution could be decided by how much presidential candidate Barack Obama drives turnout among African Americans, according to a new poll underwritten by a trio of news organizations.
Amendment 2 teeters on the edge of passage, with 59 percent of likely voters saying they would support it, results from a St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald statewide poll show. The measure needs 60 percent approval to pass.
Pollsters think voters like Carrie Wynn of Largo will tip the scales in favor of Amendment 2.
Wynn is an African American woman, a registered Democrat, and she voted early, for Obama. She also voted for Amendment 2.
"I don't believe in gay marriage," said Wynn, 71, who participated in the poll of 800 likely voters from Monday through Wednesday. "One man, one woman. That's what I believe in."
Although only 48 percent of Democrats overall favor the amendment, some 69 percent of black voters support it.
"Its promise lies in the fact that you are going to see an increase in turnout among African-American voters," said Kellyanne Conway, president of the Polling Company, which often works for Republican candidates. Her firm conducted the poll with SEA Polling and Strategic Design, a firm that works with Democrats.
The poll, which has a margin of error of 3.5 percent, showed the gay marriage ban, which mirrors what is already in state law, has a majority of support across most demographic groups, be it Republicans, independents, blacks, whites, Hispanics, young or old, male or female.
Women supported the measure slightly less than men, 56 percent to 62 percent; though working women like registered nurse Cathie McKenna of Lakeland were even less likely to support it (50 percent).
"I don't think there's any need for it right now," said McKenna, 53. "I don't think government has any business being there."
She fears the amendment could cause medical care and hospital visitation problems for heterosexual couples who aren't legally married. McKenna, who has been married to her husband for 33 years, said she also supports gay marriage.
The strongest support comes from people who attend church frequently, particularly self-described born-again Christians like Branden Grammer, 31, of Port Richey.
"I'm a born again Christian," Grammer said. "That's my belief. I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman."
Some 75 percent of Republicans such as Ronald Brackin, 52, of Citrus Park, back the measure; 20 percent oppose it.
Brackin, a meter mechanic, said he's "tired of people shoving the alternative lifestyle down our throats." Adults have the right to make any decision they want about their lifestyle, he said, but allowing gay marriage sends the wrong message to kids.
Cloie Joyce, 76, of Lakeland, a retired widow, admitted some conflicted feelings. But when she voted early, she voted against the amendment.
"That's a really touchy subject," Joyce said. "I'm definitely not gay and I don't plan on being gay. According to the Bible, I don't think it's right. But I have a couple friends who are gay. And I have family that's gay. … I have never run into a gay person who wasn't a sweet kind of person."
"That's between them and God," she said.
59 Percentage of voters who say they approve amending the Florida Constitution to define marriage as "the legal union of one man and one woman as husband and wife and provides that no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized."
Note: The poll was conducted among 800 voters Oct. 20, 21 and 22. It has a margin of error of 3.5 percent.
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Comments on this article
by Celeste
Oct 27, 2008 10:34 PM
Michael, if you think that this takes no rights away from anyone you are very mistaken. This law will make domestic partnerships illegal. That means heterosexual couples who have a home and a life together will LOSE their present rights.
by Brent
Oct 27, 2008 4:26 PM
What irony! White bigots once banned marriage between whites and blacks, mostly on religious grounds. Now those same bigots are trying to ban marriage between same sex couples, also for religious reasons - and black bigots are joining in. How sad.
by Brent
Oct 27, 2008 4:23 PM
Obviously, religious bigotry crosses racial boundaries - a fanatic is a fanatic, and the willingness to disregard the civil rights of others is not limited to white bigots. Faith makes fools of all.
by Kathaleen
Oct 27, 2008 4:08 PM
This issue isn't about whether gay people are sweet or kind-they are! As a parent I don't want tax dollars being used to force teachers to teach my child about homosexual relationships and certainly not in KINDERGARTEN, as is happening today in Mass.
by Rory
Oct 27, 2008 1:32 PM
Gay marriage is already illegal according to several state laws. Passing a constitutional amendment that, by the curse of its own vague language, could be interpreted to take away someone's rights is completely ludicrous.
by semi
Oct 26, 2008 12:57 PM
I am NOT in favor of any amendment that removes rights from individuals or excludes individuals for whatever reason. Constitutions are documents that state your inalienable rights and should never be amended to do the opposite.
by Michael
Oct 26, 2008 12:57 PM
Richard, your comment about voters for the YES being homophobic just shows your total ignorance. If you want to vote based on alternate reality, go ahead. This amendment takes no rights away from anyone since these laws are already in effect.
by Michael
Oct 26, 2008 12:57 PM
Equally interesting that no one comments on the 9-0 unanimous decision by the Fl. Supreme Court that this amendment affects 1 thing and 1 thing only- marriage. Not civil unions, contract law, domestic partnerships, etc... But facts are unimportant
by Julie
Oct 25, 2008 1:52 PM
Dear Dee, 5:07pm - Thanks for proving that the folks voting to enshrine intolerance in our Constitution are not exactly "the sharpest knives in the drawer" with your post...no one CHOOSES to be gay, and that has been proven again and again.....
by Julie
Oct 25, 2008 1:52 PM
I think the headline should have read "Amendment 2's Fate Lies in the hands of black RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS turnout". If only they would obey ALL the tenetS of that bible they keep pounding us with, like Matthew 7:7--JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!
by Julie
Oct 25, 2008 1:52 PM
This is not a BLACK issue, this is a RELIGIOUS issue; and a damn hypocritical stance considering 69% of black babies are born out of wedlock.
by trevis
Oct 24, 2008 9:54 PM
Strange a woman would vote for Obama and be against homosexual marriage. You have to be profoundly uninformed to believe marriage as we know it will last one term of radical leftist Obama. Change is coming and some voters won't cotton the changes.
by Dee
Oct 24, 2008 5:07 PM
Please stop making this a BLACK issue, this issue of gay marriage is NO WAY connected to the black struggle. These are choices that individuals make being Black is an act of GOD!!!!
by Dennis
Oct 24, 2008 5:07 PM
Hey Don, your Bible was also used quite frequently as the justification for discrimination against blacks in the past, and for anti-miscegenation laws. Of course, in our SECULAR nation, YOUR interpretation of YOUR chosen holy book is IRRELEVANT.
by James
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
this whole ammendement is "gay" -- stop trying to put hatred and bigotry into our constitution -- vote no on 2
by Richard
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
Let's also make it illegal for gays to use the same rest rooms, make them sit in the back of the bus, and have segregated eating areas in restaurants.Oh and lets not forget to take their right to vote away and tell them where they can and can't live.
by Rich
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
I just feel it is unfair that we are getting our christian laws wrote in with a piece meal type of approach. The state constituion should be amended at one time to have all the christian belief systems placed as law. Then we can judge everyone.
by Jerry Wright
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
"I have never run into a gay person who wasn't a sweet kind of person."............SO SHE'S NEVER RUN INTO BARNEY FRANK OR ROSIE O' I TAKE IT?
by Sandra
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
We have in FL, seniors and others living w/a companion and not married. Reasons for not marrying: penions, soc. sec.,family concerns w/inheritances. Keep the pursuit of happiness in the home for those who reside there. Politics out of the bedroom!
by Larry A
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
Ironic that Obama would be against this measure, and his biggest supporters will probably help it pass. Although Republican, I am voting against it. Freedom means freedom. No measureable harm comes to anyone else.
by Don
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
We wouldn't need this amendment if it wasn"t being assaulted by the special interests. But since these special interests want to change the definition of marriage, we have no choice but to stand and be heard. Bible says it,I belive it,that settles it
by Zeke
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
I can't believe African Americans, who suffered the absolute worst of evils from discrimination, would vote to add discrimination of any of God's children to our constitution. Don't be misled, Say Yes to God's Love of all His Children, Vote No On 2.
by Steve
Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM
It's sad that the Republicans (they are the backers of this ammendment) can trick blacks into discriminating against the last group of people it is ok to discriminate against. When they bring back the poll tax and Jim Crow, don't come to me for help.
by Zeke
Oct 24, 2008 4:35 PM
Amendment 2's term, "the Substantial Equivalent Thereof", will strip existing benefits & rights from senior citizens, police, emergency responders, and many others. The fact is, it happened in Michigan, it will happen in Florida as well. VoteNoOn.
by CBT
Oct 24, 2008 10:30 AM
It saddens me greatly as a black man who remembers the struggles of the civil rights era, that black people would be called upon to discriminate against anyone. So much for the dream!
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