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Jolly's right: Social Security benefits not guaranteed

Social Security has been a popular political football during the campaign for Pinellas County's open U.S. House seat, with both sides acknowledging the earned benefit program needs reform, but differing on how it should be handled.

During an untelevised debate in Clearwater on Feb. 25, candidates Alex Sink and David Jolly traded barbs over their platforms, with Sink attacking the Republican onstage by saying Jolly had declared that Social Security was not guaranteed. Jolly said that wasn't his opinion, it's actually what the highest court in the land had ruled. Jolly said it was up to elected officials to make sure seniors get their benefits.

"In 1960, the United States Supreme Court in the Flemming decision said Social Security is not guaranteed," he said. "My fight is to make sure that is guaranteed."

Jolly's claim made us curious about what the courts have said about Social Security, so we decided to open the law books.

The case to which Jolly was referring is Flemming vs. Nestor, a 1960 case about a Bulgarian immigrant named Ephram Nestor who was deported in 1956 for having been a member of the Communist Party between 1933 and 1939. Nestor was not a citizen, but had lived in the United States since 1913.

Nestor retired in 1955 after paying into the Social Security fund for 19 years, since the program was created in 1936. When he was deported, his benefits were terminated under amended provisions of the Social Security Act of 1935.

Nestor sued the federal government, claiming the benefits constituted a contract and that he deserved his payments after so many years of contributing to the system. (The other party in the case was Arthur S. Flemming, the secretary of health, education and welfare during Dwight Eisenhower's presidency.)

In a 5-4 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled there was no contractual obligation for the government to pay out Social Security benefits to Nestor.

The ruling meant payments into the Social Security system could not be considered a person's property rights if that person violated a rule set forth by Congress, UCLA law professor Katherine Stone told PolitiFact Florida.

In Nestor's case, Congress made rules against belonging to the Communist Party, though it's worth pointing out the law didn't exist when Nestor actually was in the party. Still, the court said the after-the-fact prohibition was valid.

"People who are denied (benefits) can't say their property was taken from them, unless the change is arbitrary or lacks rational reasoning," Stone said, noting the denial couldn't be punitive or violate a person's right to due process.

What could be considered unreasonable? "Just ending the program suddenly could be an irrational measure," Stone suggested. "Moving the money into tax cuts for the rich could, too."

Changing or suspending the program because of budget constraints, though, would likely pass muster with the courts.

Jolly's interpretation of that ruling is interesting, Stone said, because the case only deals with one specific category of beneficiary being denied payments for a specific reason.

But beneficiaries could be denied benefits for any reason if Congress passed a law making it so, as long as the change wasn't arbitrary. The court said Congress had the power to modify the rules, which it has done several times — such as gradually raising the full retirement age over time.

Political debates over Social Security payouts have been fueled by budget projections illustrating the widening chasm of the program paying out more than it is taking in. A 2005 Congressional Research Service report on Social Security reform pointed out that beneficiaries were not guaranteed "full benefits in the case of a shortfall, unless Congress amends applicable laws."

As for Jolly's statement that the Supreme Court ruled "Social Security is not guaranteed," the 1960 Flemming vs. Nestor case he cited indeed said that citizens don't have a right to Social Security benefits, no matter how long they paid into the system. Congress can change the rules how it sees fit, as long as it follows due process.

We rate the statement True.

Edited for print. Read the full version at PolitiFact.com/Florida.

The statement

The U.S. Supreme Court found that "Social Security is not guaranteed."

David Jolly, Republican congressional candidate, during Feb. 25 debate

The ruling

PolitiFact ruling: True
The 1960 Flemming vs. Nestor case Jolly cited indeed said citizens don't have a right to Social Security benefits, no matter how long they paid into the system. We rate the statement True.

Jolly's right: Social Security benefits not guaranteed 03/02/14 [Last modified: Sunday, March 2, 2014 7:34pm]
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