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Fingers point in St. Petersburg, Apollo Beach rapes
By
Kevin Graham, Times Staff Writer
In print: Tuesday, August 26, 2008
Hillsborough County Sheriff David Gee talks with reporters during a news conference about an illegal immigrant suspected in rapes in St. Petersburg and Apollo Beach.
St. Petersburg police say they asked federal authorities in early August to detain an illegal immigrant. They didn't yet have evidence but they thought he might have committed a rape and robbery at a downtown restaurant.
But protocol got in the way.
Rigoberto Moron Martinez, 20, had not previously drawn the notice of immigration officials. And he was not yet charged with a felony. Either of those criteria might have triggered an automatic "hold" by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said police spokesman Bill Profitt.
Still, ICE asked officers to send their request in writing, Profitt said.
"They said they would see what they could do," he said.
But five hours after his arrest, Martinez was back on the streets.
That was Aug. 6, the morning after Hillsborough County sheriff's detectives picked up Martinez on an old misdemeanor warrant. St. Petersburg police had crossed the bay and trailed him for two days before handing him over to Hillsborough detectives. They sent his DNA off to be tested.
But on Aug. 16, the Sheriff's Office said, Martinez and two accomplices abducted, robbed and raped two Apollo Beach women.
On Monday, a congresswoman asked the U.S. Attorney's Office to look at how ICE and local law enforcement did their jobs. Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Brooksville, said she wants to know where the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, St. Petersburg police and ICE "dropped the ball."
She sent a list of 10 questions to Hillsborough Sheriff David Gee, asking about his office's protocol in dealing with foreign-born suspects.
Gee, clearly irritated, called it "the most naive questionnaire I have ever read in my life." He said Brown-Waite, seeking re-election, is after headlines. He held a news conference and blasted back.
"I'm always annoyed when somebody in Congress wakes up and realizes a problem we have realized over the last 10 years," Gee said.
Gee, a Republican, is running unopposed this year.
Brown-Waite represents Florida's 5th Congressional District, which includes all or parts of Pasco, Hernando, Lake, Citrus, Levy, Marion, Polk and Sumter counties. She is a member of the Homeland Security Committee.
She said in a phone interview that she's sorry Gee took "this well-intentioned call for a federal investigation so personally."
"This isn't about the sheriff. This isn't about me," she said. "This is about a criminal who slipped through the cracks who should have been detained by ICE. If ICE isn't doing their job, then we need to get after the staff there."
Interim U.S. Attorney Robert O'Neill said Brown-Waite's letter asking that his office investigate will be forwarded to Washington, D.C.
The local agencies involved in Martinez's Aug. 5 arrest give conflicting accounts about what information was shared before his release.
Police spokesman Profitt said Friday that St. Petersburg police did not tell Hillsborough deputies they suspected Martinez in the Aug. 3 rape and robbery at the restaurant Table. Then on Monday, Profitt said he meant officers hadn't told Hillsborough detention deputies but had told Hillsborough detectives.
But Sheriff Gee said his agency — which includes the jail — didn't know.
Sheriff's spokesman J.D. Callaway declined to say what deputies might have done differently.
Both agencies produced automated receipts Monday showing they communicated with ICE about Martinez on Aug. 5 after his arrest.
Gee questioned why Brown-Waite didn't contact his office sooner or independently look into how his deputies handled Martinez's case before calling for a federal investigation.
Brown-Waite's husband died a week ago.
"I think I was involved in a funeral," she said. "How insensitive can he be?"
She said her staff asked Gee on Sunday if he'd meet with her, but he refused. "For him to shoot the messenger, and the messenger being me trying to make the streets safer because that's what citizens deserve, shame on him," Brown-Waite said.
Gee estimated that about 10 percent, or roughly 7,000, of the inmates booked into the Hillsborough County jail annually are potential illegal immigrants. He doesn't fault ICE for the problems highlighted by this case.
"They are overwhelmed with this issue," the sheriff said. "You can come up with all the programs you want. But if you don't secure our borders, it won't do any good."
ICE's response varies by jurisdiction, said Crystal Williams of the American Immigration Lawyers Association in Washington, D.C. The agency's local workload can affect response time. So can the nature of the criminal charge and the immigrant's prior record. Aggravated felonies take priority.
Still, Williams says it's unreasonable to expect local law enforcement agencies to sort through complicated immigration matters or ICE's database, which has plenty of errors.
"I've been an immigration lawyer for 25 years and sometimes I can't figure out someone's immigration status," she said.
Even five days after the arrests of Martinez and his alleged accomplices — Jose Walle, 13, and Vicente Reyes-Carbajal, 20 — ICE is still trying to figure out whether Walle and Reyes-Carbajal are in the United States legally, Gee said.
He said it's a cumbersome process that can be belabored because undocumented immigrants often give investigators false information.
Meanwhile, the sheriff said he does not intend to respond to Brown-Waite's questions. But he said, "If she wants to have an investigation, I want to be the first guy interviewed."
Times staff writers Saundra Amrhein and Cristina Silva contributed to this report. Kevin Graham can be reached at kgraham@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3433.
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Comments on this article
by James
Aug 28, 2008 4:04 PM
fj your comment lacks intelligence getting rid of criminals, illegals, is not same as Jews, Blacks Some people come to USA for a better life some are criminals running from law but if you enter illegally then youra criminal, and insult to legalcitize
by fj
Aug 26, 2008 8:05 PM
Get rid of illegal immigrant?? ... pretty soon you'll be saying get rid of Jews, blacks, short people, fat people ...where does it end, it's a case by case thing people stop your madness!! There are nut jobs everywhere.
by LH
Aug 26, 2008 6:51 PM
David Gee why don't you treat these rapist like they were Latin Kings? Oh thats right you had to set them up in order to arrest them didn't you? And you still couldn't keep them! You leave informants and rapist on the street & set criminals free!!
by Valerie
Aug 26, 2008 5:32 PM
The real issue is illegal immigration and the over-abundance of rights wrongly afforded to them. ICE needs to start booting them out as sson as they are aware of the illegal immigrant - not later, not when the proper paperwork is completed, etcm, and the U.S. needs to stop playing host to the illegals. They are not here doing work that Americans refuse to do. Rather, the illegals are here taking jobs away from Americans and running down wages because illegals work for next to nothing due to employers paying them straight cash and under the table so that employers can save a buck, too. Then illegals commit crimes while here, too, and there are just so many of them here that the government cannot or does not want to bother to keep track of them. An illegal who was also a fugitive apparently slipped through the cracks and killed a Fort Myers police officer in July. Where do we draw the line when it comes to illegal immigration in this country, and when. Soon, I hope. Very so
by Linda
Aug 26, 2008 3:44 PM
David Gee you think it is all about you. Consider this- if your child was raped (God forbid) what would you do? You would want Ginny and anyone else to be there to make it right. You better do the same for the rest of us. Shut up & do your job!
by JR
Aug 26, 2008 3:30 PM
Hey "Jesus"...the "rights" of the hard working mexicans? Ummmm, they are illegal and therefore do not have rights. Although in America, they will get everything they need and if you live here you will suffer. I'm going to Mexico as an illegal.
by joe in st pete
Aug 26, 2008 3:30 PM
Gee is pointing out the problem (seal the boarder)as someone in his level should do. It is up to Mrs. Waite (notice I used her proper name) to see that it is shut. It is her job as an elected representative of the citizens to see that it is done.
by Anne
Aug 26, 2008 3:28 PM
tim, Ginny Brown-Waite is a Republican. And the Republican candidate for President isn't exactly rushing to secure the border...
by Tony
Aug 26, 2008 3:28 PM
Another Congresswoman who doesn't have a clue. Stay in your Ivory Tower and continue to write laws that no one can keep up with nor enforce. What a joke, just keep letting them cross the border from Mexico. OUTRAGEOUS, people like you need to go.
by Mike
Aug 26, 2008 3:28 PM
Jesus, yes, our government is meant to put U.S. citizens first, that's why we have them. And gang rape is not a 'night job' - not in this country. Even Switzerland has a military presense on their border. So should we.
by Jim
Aug 26, 2008 3:26 PM
There is an old inspector's rule that says,"When in doubt, write".Crystal Williams said, "I've been an immigration lawyer for 25years and sometimes I can't figure out someone's immigration status," So to paraphrase, "When in doubt, throw the bum out"
by valuesvoter
Aug 26, 2008 3:26 PM
This woman is unstable. Look up her antics on Google....they are numerous.
She fits right in with the dysfunctional republickon party, IMHO.
by Leroy
Aug 26, 2008 3:26 PM
This is outrageous! Hopefully the rape victims will sue the sheriff for millions. Clearly, David Gee is a horribly insensitive person who doesn't deserve to be Sheriff. He shares some of the responsibility for what happened to these poor people.
by Sue
Aug 26, 2008 3:25 PM
Those of us who have dealt with SPPD over the years are fully aware of their ineptitude due to faulty leadership more interested in protecting drug dealing criminal relatives than in protecting the citizens. And with Mayor Ricky's blessing.
by tim
Aug 26, 2008 10:12 AM
Martinez and his pals would get free health care, eductaion and housing under Obama. Democrats like "Headlines Ginny" do NOTHING to prevent illegals from entering through Mexico, yet scream to high heaven when some of them commit crimes here.
by Tony
Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM
So Hillsborough Jail beats up people in wheel chairs and lets illegal aliens out on the street. What is next? Gee is not protecting the people of Hillsborough, he is protecting his job. He needs to step aside, of Crist needs to remove him.
by SusieQ
Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM
Wasn't Gee involved in the Aisenberg case? That sure went well.
by wazzamattaU
Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM
We have more reasons to not re-elect anyone!
by joetampa
Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM
'Jesus'- Are you saying Americans won't drive trucks, paint, drywall, build houses, nor work in hospitals?
by joetampa
Aug 26, 2008 10:10 AM
If we had secured our borders in the first place this kind of thing could not happen..... again!
by Rob
Aug 26, 2008 10:09 AM
This women will use ANYTHING for political gain. In 2003, when France disagreed with the Bush Administration on the Iraq War, she said we should dig up all the veterans that were buried in graves in France from WWII and take them to the US.
by JT
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
Sounds like Sheriff Gee has something to hide, his support of illegal immigration. It would be good for the SPT to find out what Sheriff Coats organization does with illegal aliens. Sheriff Gee needs to take a crash course from Sheriff Joe in Phoenix
by Kay
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
He calls her naive for not knowing HIS job? He will not respond to her but thinks he should be the first guy interviewed? He should WELCOME the investigation and HOPE for change through it.
by pj
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
please stop the finger pointing theres enough blame to go around now lets be the first state to fix it, ship them to singapor and pay that goverment to administer punishment and housed them im sure this will do the trick ask micheal faye.
by h man
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
Why are we so nice to illegal aliens? My wife came here legally. Why do we let these law breakers stay? I have never understood it. Screw sanctuary cities. Throw them out and build a wall. Jez its so simple
by CBT
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
I hate to point out what should be obvious, but isn't all this finger pointing going to give these "alleged" criminals an undue amount of press and thus hurt the ability to get a fair trial. Not that they deserve one, but the lawyers will love this!
by A Voter
Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM
God bless Harvey's gentle soul, but Ginny is a manipulator who's more interested in posturing for votes that actually doing something about immigration. To do something she should send the Chamber of Commerce creeps hiring the illegals to jail.
by Vincent
Aug 26, 2008 9:23 AM
We have some grandstanding by Brown-Waite.
ICE is a joke. Gee is looking to save face.
by Dr_Dug
Aug 26, 2008 9:23 AM
Why don't they just secure the borders? And why don't the people in Congress do their job? It's the fault of people in Washington..they throw parties for their nomination,then go back on vacation. Congress should be fired!! It's their fault!!
by richard
Aug 26, 2008 9:23 AM
Too bad there are so few competent politicians and law and order officials here and probably anywhere you look. Vote them all out. We can't be much worse ff with new blood.
by John
Aug 26, 2008 9:22 AM
Everyone wants to pass the buck. St.Pete police should have been all over this guy.
by Lisa
Aug 26, 2008 9:22 AM
7,000 illegals a year in Hills' jails? Who doesn't beleive we need to tighten our boarders and keep illegals out. It's not bad enough they commit crimes, now we have to pay for room and board.
by JESUS
Aug 26, 2008 9:22 AM
THESE MEXICANS WERE ONLY HERE DOING WORK AMERICANS WON'T. THEN THE BUSH ECONOMY DROVE THEM ONTO THE STREETS FOR A NIGHT JOB. BROWN-WAITE HAS A HISTORY OF PUTTING AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST THE RIGHTS OF HARD-WORKING MEXICANS LAST. THIS SMACKS OF RACISM.
by Glenn
Aug 26, 2008 9:22 AM
another criminal walking the streets due to red tape. Direlects of society have no place walking the street harming those of us who obey the laws of society.
by Joe
Aug 26, 2008 9:22 AM
Seems to me the real problem here is illegal immigration.
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