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Without Walls church making a comeback, White says

By Sherri Day, Times Staff Writer
In print: Saturday, August 23, 2008


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TAMPA — It has been arguably the toughest year in the 17-year history of Without Walls International Church, once the largest church in Florida and the fastest-growing congregation in the country.

A year ago this month, its founders announced they were divorcing. Three months later, a U.S. senator launched a federal inquiry into the church's finances. Some 50 percent of the 22,000-member congregation left in the aftermath, dragging collections down by half.

With the departure of his high-profile evangelist wife, the Rev. Randy White, the church's co-founder and senior pastor, is dealing alone with the new realities.

This summer, White blocked the Internet broadcast of church services within a 60-mile radius of the ministry's Grady Avenue campus. White said he took the step to encourage "lazy Christians" to come to church.

Earlier, he directed staff members to remove 500 chairs from the sanctuary because they sat empty during two Sunday morning services, which have since been merged into one. White said he needed to ease the strain of preaching twice as he dealt with personal crises, which also included his daughter's death.

Despite all this, White, 50, says his church is "alive and well."

"We're coming back stronger," he said in a recent interview. "It's not rhetoric, but it's reality. The God we serve is the God of a second chance."

White cites examples of rejuvenation: In recent weeks, staff members have had to add chairs as worshipers filled the building, once a Canada Dry bottling plant. Some Sundays, they have turned people away for lack of room in the 4,000-seat hall, he said.

White said the church is taking steps to attract new members, many of whom don't know the recent history. There's free valet parking for visitors and an expanded coffee shop. Church leaders speak of the day when appeals for tithes will cease, a move that could possibly silence some of Without Walls' critics who have long claimed it focuses too much on money.

Those who study megachurches, however, said they are doubtful that Without Walls will be able to easily regain the public status it once had.

"I'm not sure that I can think of an instance where, after something like this, the church is as large or as strong as it was before," said Mark A. Noll, a history professor at the University of Notre Dame. "Sometimes the work goes on but in a much diminished way. … It's been easier for politicians to recover than religious leaders."

• • •

Clad in a gray suit on a recent Sunday, Randy White took his sermon from I Samuel 22, a passage where the warrior David is on the run and leads a band of distressed, indebted and discontented people.

Becoming more exuberant as he preached, White shed his suit jacket and tie and rolled up his sleeves. He compared himself to David, at one point crawling on the floor simulating a spy on a reconnaissance mission.

"You're about to P.U.S.H.," White told the congregation. "Praise Until Something Happens. You keep on praising. You keep on shouting. You keep on dancing, and see where God is going to take you."

White ran around the pulpit. The crowd roared.

These are the people who have stood by White during this tumultuous year. Aside from losing his marriage, White's grown daughter, Kristen, died in his arms in April after a long battle with cancer.

White said he struggled mightily, often sharing his pain in sermons and song. When he looked for support, many of the people he had stood by during difficult times in their lives fled, he said.

"The people that I paid their mortgage … people that I paid their rent, their electric, I counseled them through their divorces and the loss of their children, when I needed them they left me," White said in an interview.

White said he learned a life lesson: "You cannot put a lot of trust and emphasis on people who say that 'I've got your back.' You've got to keep your focus on Jesus."

Several former members of Without Walls contacted for this story declined to speak on the record about why they left. They said they simply preferred to move on.

Walt Walker used to attend Without Walls every Sunday with his wife. Stung by the Whites' divorce, he only visits about twice a month.

"We still don't know what happened," said Walker, 48, of Tampa. "It bothers me not to know. Something is just not on the level."

Hurt by what seemed a never-ending stream of bad news, Luz M. Bovell of Tampa stopped going to Without Walls for three months. She admits that, initially, she passed judgment on White. She came back after some soul-searching.

"Randy is one of those people who brings the message and brings it well enough that I walk out of service every Sunday with an understanding of what my role and obedience to (God) is," said Bovell, 37, who attends the church with her 8-year-old son, Amori.

Charnell Williams, a banker from Valrico, said she never contemplated leaving.

"Among all the chaos, there's consistency," said Williams, 51, noting that the church still operates its outreach ministries with which she volunteers. "It's an awesome church to me. I've never seen any thing like it in my life, and I've been in church a long time."

• • •

When White and his now ex-wife, televangelist Paula White, contemplated divorce, they knew it would take at least a year for the congregation to recover.

White said that recovery is finally well under way. He is entertaining a purchase offer for a branch campus, Without Walls Central in Lakeland. But despite putting the church's Tampa location on the market earlier this year for $30-million, the preacher now says he has no plans to sell or move. He has hired new staff and put mirrors along the side walls of the sanctuary, a move intended to lighten the dark atmosphere in preparation for a return to a weekly television broadcast, the pastor said.

He may also get some help in reinvigorating the church from his ex-wife.

She packed the house when she led service two weeks ago. Attendees cheered when the minister, who now splits her time between New York and San Antonio, announced she would now preach at Without Walls once a month.

"I am excited about what God is doing at Without Walls," Paula White said in a statement.

And White continues his longtime practice of inviting boldface names to the church. Earlier this month, Bishop Eddie Long of Georgia was a featured speaker. Like White, he heads one of six ministries that face federal scrutiny from Sen. Charles Grassley on whether they're abusing their nonprofit status.

White likens members who remain at Without Walls to the phoenix that burned and rose from its ashes. But this time, as the church rises, White said he wants to make sure people don't focus on him.

"I'm just a guy God's used to build this," White said. "He can take his hand off me, and I'll be a car washer tomorrow. I don't know. But keep your eyes on Jesus. And, that's what I think I'm seeing happening with my church now. They've finally got their eyes off me. They're coming to worship God, and they know that I have a lot of stuff in my life that God's still working on."

Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report. Sherri Day can be reached at sday@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3405.



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Comments on this article
by Trina Aug 31, 2008 3:27 PM
Thank you to my Pastors Randy and Paula, you're the best, I love you both! We got your back and we're here to stay! It's not about us, it's about Christ!
by Sony Aug 29, 2008 5:57 PM
Jesus commanded us to take care of the poor and needy, not give your money to a church who will use ten maybe fifteen percent of it for that cause. Someone said what other churches are there in tampa, if they looked well enough they would find it.
by WWIC Aug 29, 2008 5:57 PM
Only God can judge us. Thank you to "MY PASORS!!!!!randy and Paula... for doing all that you do in the name of the lord. I love you both!
by Gene Aug 29, 2008 3:35 PM
Those who left the church apparantly had their eyes on people instead of God. No matter what as long as the gospel is being preached and the Word of God is being fed to the people, they should stay put. We go to church to worship God, not people.
by Veep Aug 25, 2008 7:30 PM
Beware the money-changers in the temple of worship. Ssss-nakes
by James Aug 25, 2008 3:30 PM
As a believer, we are to be as innocent as doves, but as shrewd as snakes. This doesn't mean that we are 2B pushovers. I've been to this church = They always talk MONEY!! Fav pastors get front row while those that want to come are turned away.
by Veep Aug 25, 2008 10:40 AM
These people tell you they are the annointed ones, as a way of controlling you, and making you *less than* them while they laugh all the way to the bank. Speaking of Pleasure Island, the song playing on the dancefloor was "Beautiful Liar" by Beyonce. Appropriate, huh?
by ILuvWWIC Aug 25, 2008 10:39 AM
I will continue to Tithe into this church no matter what outsiders may say. There is one judge. No one is perfect but God. He forgives so who are we not to? There is a place for all and WWIC is 4 me. People wake up its not about us! Its about Christ!
by Scott Aug 25, 2008 10:39 AM
It is great to see the Tampa Bay area produce something. Too bad it is a bunch of religious zealots who are so ignorant to give up their hard earned money to these charlatans. Mega churches are big business and big business only.
by Tee Aug 24, 2008 10:30 AM
Kim, pipe down! We have plenty of right to judge as these people pimp out God for money like a street thug does his hoes. Get a grip on reality, Christians... Who are we to judge??? I thonk the Whites have done plenty of judging from the pulpit.
by SIS Aug 24, 2008 10:01 AM
Randy finally a paper that printed a good story! You are a GREAT MAN OF INTEGRITY and WISDOM. And I know personally because I am your SISTER!Keep up the good job I love you much and hold your head up YOUR FAM is PROUD OF YOU ALWAY'S! Pep don't know..
by Got your back Pastor Aug 24, 2008 9:56 AM
Pastor Randy!! We love you!!! And no matter what you say, people will pick it apart! Remember this:The church is full on Sunday's because we love you and you give us the WORD...We all have your back and were here to stay!! Those that left...SEE YA
by LOVEYOUBISHOP Aug 24, 2008 9:56 AM
Bishop,great story and thank you for alway's being "REAL" to us! Hey, I know you don't loose sleep at night over people that "talk bad about you" but listen, you have STOOD where alot of these people would have ran, thanks for standing, we stand w/ u
by tabitha Aug 24, 2008 9:52 AM
You can judge if you want to, but tell me what are you doing to help the community? There isn't any church like WithoutWalls in Tampa. God is a God that restores. But he makes it clear to touch not his anointed.You may not like it, but their anointed
by tabitha Aug 24, 2008 9:51 AM
I personally was hurt by my pastors divorce.to me it felt as if it was my parents.I cried miserably.But its not about my pastors its about God getting his bride in order.I'd rather him correct us now then later.Depart from Me rangs a bell?
by Kim Aug 23, 2008 5:57 PM
First, of all, who are we to judge? We all have sinned and sin daily. That is why God told us to repent daily.God told us to put no trust into man,but to trust Him with all of our heart.We all will answer to God on judgement day for all things...
by fj Aug 23, 2008 5:52 PM
Whats wrong with being a car washer??? what an egotistical,selfabsorbed,Bible thumping fool!!!
by Bobbert Aug 23, 2008 5:51 PM
I understand the need to raise money to keep the ministry going but do the preachers have to live so well. Looks like evangelism pays pretty well from what I've seen. As I recall it orginally only required a robe and a pair of sandles. What happened?
by Veep Aug 23, 2008 5:42 PM
And what's wrong with being a car washer reverand? With the three Bentleys and 10 Mercedes you and your ex own, you should show more respect for those that polish the trophies you have bilked out of ignorant fools that pad your bank accounts.
by fl christian Aug 23, 2008 5:41 PM
An apology is in order to all the young people from the Whites. I recommended the church to my kids attending college there and they were very disappointed. Yes preachers are human but they are held to a higher standard.
by Matt Aug 23, 2008 5:38 PM
You must be a fool to give these people your hard earned money. What a scam.
by phil Aug 23, 2008 5:35 PM
Randy White: Take your bad face lift and snake oil and find a useful purpose for your life instead of fleecing gullible people!! You people are sooo duuummmbbbb!!!
by al Aug 23, 2008 1:21 PM
What does it take to convince people that leaders of Mega-Churches are only in it for the money? Didn't this guy drive a Bentley? Settle for a $60,000 Lexus and give the difference to charity if you really care.
by David Aug 23, 2008 1:21 PM
Looks Like the "Rev" was running out of money as collections dropped by half. Got to pay for that million dollar house, ex wife, and fancy cars somehow!!
by Mike Aug 23, 2008 1:19 PM
Randy, If you didn't want people to have their eyes on you, then you wouldn't have paid for thousands of dollars in plastic surgery! Organized religion is a fraud!
by Stephanie Aug 23, 2008 1:19 PM
Dang I will go if he will pay my bills!
by Matt Aug 23, 2008 1:17 PM
Boy, I know I'd sure be excited if I was called "lazy" by the church, then turned away at the door - No Jesus For You!
by OhNo Aug 23, 2008 1:11 PM
I had much faith in Pastor Randy until I saw him personally drinking and girating with a much younger looking Paula White at Pleasure Island in Orlando in June, which happened to coincide with Gay Days weekend. Hypocricy in it truest form.
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