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TAMPA — In a service notable for its unusual content, the Rev. Randy White, pastor of Without Walls International Church, laid bare the church's financial situation Sunday and its bid to stave off foreclosure of its two campuses.
White told his congregation, once one of the fastest-growing churches in the country, that church leaders would continue trying to negotiate with its lender this week. If those talks fail, they will consider several options, including filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, refinancing or selling the church.
The preacher pledged not to run and asked members to stand with him as he fights.
"I'll be damned if I'm leaving," White said. "I promise you this: I will handcuff myself to that column right there because right is right and wrong is wrong. We are a great church, and the devil has tried to take us out every single way that he can."
Last week, the St. Petersburg Times reported that the California-based Evangelical Christian Credit Union filed foreclosure proceedings against Without Walls, which owes $13-million for its Tampa property and $12.5-million on its Lakeland branch.
The two parties had been negotiating on the terms of the Tampa mortgage for months. But talks broke off recently when White's lawyers urged him not to sign a loan modification agreement that included stipulations requiring the church to relinquish ownership of its assets, including intellectual property.
In court documents, the credit union said Without Walls was in default on a $1-million line of credit that was due in August. White disputes that claim, and said the church had made arrangements to repay the line of credit from the sale of a $1.4-million piece of property at its Lakeland site.
Like an attorney building a case, White provided documentation Sunday that detailed talks with the credit union. He placed copies of those documents, along with his credit card and personal giving statements, on a table beneath the altar. He invited the congregation and the media to peruse them.
In his 90-minute sermon, White devoted 30 minutes to talk of the foreclosure proceedings. He spent an hour rebutting a series of articles written by the Tampa Tribune about the church over an 18-month period. White said the coverage had cost the church and its affiliates, which include Paula White Ministries, millions of dollars.
Jeff Scullin, Sunday editor at the Tribune, said the newspaper had no comment on White's remarks.
As White spoke, church members brought pink offering envelopes and laid them at the altar. The gesture, common in some Pentecostal and Charismatic churches, signals that the givers are sowing a financial seed into what they believe is fertile ground.
Longtime member Ethel Puleo said the talk of foreclosure did not worry her at all.
"I'm going to stay true to pastor, and I believe God," said Puleo, 86. "We have an impossible God that can perform miracles."
Sherri Day can be reached at sday@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3405.
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Comments on this article
by Joy
Nov 15, 2008 11:49 PM
Don't worry. God knows what is in the hearts of the Whites' and he WILL take care of them when the time comes. I just hope he/they don't take advantage of too many sheep that follow them. Oh yeah, Sheep, don't drink the kool-aid!!
by carol
Nov 14, 2008 9:24 PM
We christians are so gullable! We love God and God's people but we surely need more discernment. God's heart is for the gospel to go out and that can only be done by living holy lives. What happened about winning the lost? It has turned into GREED.
by Paul
Nov 14, 2008 9:15 PM
The church owes 25 Million? Religion has become big business and should be treated as such.
Blaming it on the devil is almost funny. Maybe the government will offer this supercilious jerk a bail out.
by Kathy
Nov 14, 2008 8:41 PM
Kind of telling that their accountant went to another church; so, was it the financial goings-on or the character of the leadership (or both) that compelled him to stay where he was at?
by Observer
Nov 12, 2008 5:05 PM
People - don't judge all churches or all Christians by these charlatans. There have always been Elmer Gantry types but they are NOT typical. And they will be judged in the world to come (& maybe this one!)for bringing reproach on the cause of Christ.
by Observer
Nov 12, 2008 5:04 PM
So go ahead and chain yourself to the post of the temple (what a grandstander)..and you'll be like Samson, buried under a pile of rubble. More likely you'll just go on back to your Bayshore mansion and lick your wounds there in comfort. REPENT!
by Observer
Nov 12, 2008 5:04 PM
Also..he who lives by the sword will die by the sword. The Whites sought money as hard as they could and now the LACK of money is bringing them down. Hey, it's very simple -- if you don't have the mortgage payment, they take your house (or church).
by Observer
Nov 12, 2008 5:04 PM
Maybe, just MAYBE, Mr. White, it's not SATAN who is bringing you down- maybe it's your own, and your ex's ACTIONS that are catching up with you. And maybe, just maybe it's God who is bringing you down. "Judgement must first begin in the house of God"
by Thomas
Nov 11, 2008 10:02 PM
You know we have seen this so many times e.g Jim and Tammy Baker. It seems like they forget about what the main reason is, to save souls. Love of money is root to all evil. In essence they forget the reason why they are there.
by john
Nov 11, 2008 7:16 PM
fool since your at the top right now and tam. this is not why you don't go this is your excuse. why do you feel that being successful in business means anything. do you know this man. have you stepped talked to him.if you made more money what then.
by Carol
Nov 11, 2008 9:09 AM
White said, "I'll be damned...", well, yes, Randy, you probably are damned. He also said, "... and the devil has tried to take us out every single way that he can...", and I say, No, the devil has you EXACTLY where you do his bidding. He loves you..
by Carol
Nov 11, 2008 9:09 AM
These types of individuals are the worse enemy of the true Church. Sad that this man's actions, words, and ridiculous deeds, will cause many people to stumble, AND judge Christianity. Folks, he is probably not even a TRUE Christian...
by j
Nov 11, 2008 9:09 AM
mark, where would you like a sinner to go. you have no compassion for man. you seem to think you have the right and power to judge. i'm pretty sure you don't have a clue how many hairs you have on your head. God does. maybe you need to talk with Him.
by Fool
Nov 10, 2008 5:00 PM
Is there an address where I can send money to help this Godly man? I would like to make sure he has enough $1000 suits and luxury cars/residences to maintain his spirits while he fights this battle.
by Tam
Nov 10, 2008 3:40 PM
This is exactly why I don't go to church.
by Candace
Nov 10, 2008 3:09 PM
The two "bouncer" looking guys standing at the front were assisting Bishop by placing the documents on the table as he discussed each one.
by Pat
Nov 10, 2008 1:27 PM
This is what happens when you take what belongs to God.
by Butch
Nov 10, 2008 12:50 PM
Suckers
by John A
Nov 10, 2008 12:50 PM
Perhaps the "reverend" could sell his multi-million dollar Bayshore Blvd. home to pay off the curch's debt; or maybe he could sell a few of his cars, or take cut in salary. Likely not.
by Wayne
Nov 10, 2008 12:41 PM
I saw this story on Fox 13 Monday morning. In the video, why does Randy White have two big "bouncer" type guys standing between him and his congregation? It's like secuity at a concert to keep tou off the stage. Is it to keep his "flock" away?
by Sarah
Nov 10, 2008 12:40 PM
Sherri, you consistently provide a fair perspective throughout your writing. Thank you for stating the facts and not a warped image of a great man of God.
by Paul
Nov 10, 2008 12:39 PM
Hey Rev./ Pay the bill and stop blaming the devil.
Where did the money go?
by Bill
Nov 10, 2008 12:39 PM
You collect money every Sunday and why have you not paid the bills? Do you live like a king on others money and not have to pay taxes to live high on the hog. You are a crook and are no different than anyone else.
by Tim
Nov 10, 2008 12:38 PM
and on a lighter note .. we celebrated the 30 year anniversary of having Mike & Gail Thomas as our pastors . Praise Cathedral in Pinellas Park . Not everything in God's work is doom & gloom .
by LSB
Nov 10, 2008 12:36 PM
right on Randy!
by Richard
Nov 10, 2008 12:34 PM
After all we've seen and heard about the lavish lyfestyle of the so called preacher and his wife are we surprised that now they are crying for help from their flock. People are so gulible.
by Bobbert
Nov 10, 2008 12:33 PM
Blame it on the Devil. Blame it on the Tribune. What a tragedy. A performer, oops I mean preacher, needs a place to perform so he can bilk more thousands of dollars from church members in the name of God.
by Mark
Nov 10, 2008 12:29 PM
It should be called the "Without Brains" church. I use the term "church" loosely as I can't believe a real church would invite the likes of Joe Redner to stand behind their pulpit.
by Tiffany
Nov 10, 2008 12:29 PM
I have visited Without Walls several times and each time I was there the sermons were off and not true to what the bible says and words were twisted especially from Paula. They are money hungry grabbers who only care about themselves.
by Tony
Nov 10, 2008 12:29 PM
This is why you don't put your church in debt. The Bible is against Christians getting into debt and this man took out loans for the buildings where you go to learn about not getting into debt. Things that make you go hmm.
by James
Nov 10, 2008 12:25 PM
This church is a "name it and claim it". With all the MONEY that has flowed there and with the evengelist Paula White.. something stinks. Is it really the devil or is it God rendering judgement on a church that was out of line with finances?
by Tom
Nov 10, 2008 12:24 PM
Fools and their money are soon parted.
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