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Miracles?

Tampa Bay Skeptics: true believers in the truth

By Emily Nipps, Times Staff Writer
In print: Friday, August 8, 2008


Skeptics founder Gary Posner, right, and chairman Terry Smiljanich invite testing of paranormal claims. This photo, according to the photographer, was created when the camera’s shutter was opened for 20 seconds and a moving flashlight left wispy streaks dancing behind the two men.
Skeptics founder Gary Posner, right, and chairman Terry Smiljanich invite testing of paranormal claims. This photo, according to the photographer, was created when the camera’s shutter was opened for 20 seconds and a moving flashlight left wispy streaks dancing behind the two men.
[MELISSA LYTTLE | Times illustration]
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TAMPA — Virginia Levy walked into the library downtown to prove she was psychic. A group of doubters called the Tampa Bay Skeptics questioned the claims of people like her and had set up a challenge. Levy came to meet it. There sat a row of boxes. Could she guess which contained crystals? She was given seven chances. Seven times she failed. It wasn't inability that did her in, she said recently, the bitterness still evident in her voice. It was the bespectacled host of the project, Gary Posner, an unbeliever who she said patronized her, creating an atmosphere filled with negative energy. She purposely chose the wrong box each time, she said, then left in a huff. Today, she lives in Arizona, but she never forgot Posner. He hasn't forgotten her either. To him, Levy was further proof that he did the right thing when he founded the Skeptics 20 years ago. They meet every few months in a sterile office building to talk fact versus belief. They invite psychics to prove themselves. They say no one ever has.

• • •

Posner's passion for skepticism grew from his own experience of being duped.

As a boy, he never related much to his Jewish heritage or the Hebrew stories he learned at synagogue, but he clung to a wide-eyed wonder about UFOs, perhaps to fill a void, he said.

His fascination with flying saucers held strong until his late 20s, when he began reading reports by famous UFO skeptic Phillip Klass. It changed his life.

"I was just looking for the truth," said Posner, now 58. "I thought I'd found the truth when I was younger. I found out I'd been hoodwinked."

Never again, he vowed.

In 1988, he decided people around here needed a group to help measure their beliefs against reality. So he started the Tampa Bay Skeptics. At a recent meeting, an African-American man talked about how few black people are openly skeptic, and lamented the anti-evolution philosophy at his daughter's school.

Posner showed old video clips of his appearances on local news shows. The group advertises its meetings, but no psychics showed up to challenge them.

That's not surprising, though. Posner has become somewhat of a pariah in an area that has seen its share of so-called miracles. The local physician has served as the main spokesman for the group, which has about 70 members (mostly men). An average meeting draws 15 to 20 members.

In 1989, thousands flocked to a Tarpon Springs church to see a Virgin Mary painting that reportedly cried real tears and still showed the stains. Some in the crowd criticized Posner when he gave skeptical commentary to reporters at the scene.

When an image of Jesus appeared on a Bradenton church wall after a cleaning in 2000, Posner went on a TV talk show and argued with a University of South Florida religious studies lecturer about truth and spiritual beliefs.

But the Skeptics focus more on paranormal and "fringe science" claims like astrology, extrasensory perception and UFOs than religion. Much like consumer protection groups, the Skeptics say they seek truth as a counterweight to the paranormal.

• • •

No one has been able to make the Skeptics less skeptical, but it's not for lack of trying.

Not long after the group formed, it began offering a $1,000 reward to anyone who could demonstrate supernatural powers. About a dozen people have come forward over the years, but all walked away empty-handed.

"These aren't scam artists," Posner said. "They're believers. They've convinced themselves and their friends that they have these special abilities."

"We're not here to debunk," said Skeptics chairman and local lawyer Terry Smiljanich. "We're here to say it's your obligation in making the claim to prove it to us and the world."

The Skeptics say they want to be proved wrong. They're fascinated with unexplained phenomena but say they won't believe in anything without scientific evidence or statistics to back it.

Meanwhile, the $1,000 still sits in their hands. They get lots of inquiries from psychics or self-proclaimed healers across the country, but few have made the trip.

"Our money is safe," Smiljanich said.

In 1999, James D. Moore Jr. of Gainesville couldn't convince them that his gold-detecting "crazy rod" had magical powers, especially when it didn't detect gold-filled boxes any better than a coin flip would. And in 2005, Ron Pierce from Alabama claimed he could diagnose illnesses over the phone, but the Skeptics say he guessed only one out of 10.

At a Skeptics meeting in March, a father brought his 19-year-old son from Orlando to show off the young man's telepathic skills. They left disappointed, the Skeptics said, wondering why the young man's powers failed that one time.

Levy, the psychic who took the $1,000 challenge at the library, knows the feeling.

"They called it a double-blind test," she said by phone. "What I called it was a scam."

The group's negative and mocking attitudes hampered her abilities, she said.

"What they're doing is using the laws of attraction," Levy said. "They're actually using the same powers that psychics use, except in reverse."

The experience was appalling, she said, adding that the Skeptics are "working on behalf of the dark side."

She still believes in her powers. Today, she organizes spiritual journeys and "vision quest adventures" in the Arizona desert.

She feels sorry for the Skeptics and anyone who tries to break their "spell."

"They're taking real gifted people and making a mockery of their gifts."

Maybe so, the Skeptics concede, but they continue to stick by a simple motto:

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Emily Nipps can be reached at nipps@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3431.


Weeping
Madonna painting

The miracle: In 1989, people at the Greek Orthodox Shrine of St. Michael in
Tarpon Springs reported seeing real tears flowing from the eyes in a painting of the Virgin Mary.

A skeptic's analysis: Lacking any real, credible evidence that the streaks were caused by tears, Gary Posner says the public was duped.

Clearwater
Virgin Mary

The miracle: In 1996, a colorful outline of the Virgin Mary appeared on a bank building in Clearwater, drawing hundreds of thousands of visitors.

A skeptic's analysis:
The discoloration in the glass was caused by
water deposits and
weathering, and a palm
tree later removed may
have caused the shaping
of the image.

Bradenton
church Jesus

The miracle: After brick walls of the Palma Sola
Presbyterian Church
were pressure-washed in 2000, a darkened Jesus-like image appeared on one of the walls.

A skeptic's analysis: Chemicals and sprays could have easily created the design.

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More on the group

For more information about the Tampa Bay Skeptics, visit the group's Web site at www.tampabayskeptics.org or contact Gary Posner at (813) 849-7571.


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Comments on this article
by Ed Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM
If a true Skeptic was given 200 professional sources and witness testimony he would take the materials and investigate. A debunker says "it's not true" without looking at both sides with an open mind. This group has a pre-determined notion.
by Pasco Rev. Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM
How does a skeptic prove the existance of such phenomenon as Hope, Love, and Trust?I have NO need to PROVE my prayer, my belief, or gifts to anyone. I owe such people nothing. I think their group is a sad social commentary. Prayers for them...
by Ed Aug 11, 2008 11:57 AM
Sounds more like debunking. A skeptic questions what is accepted as fact, like benefits of vitamins, UFOs and conspiracies. A debunker wants to expose in public what he believes is the truth behind certain claims, like psychics and crop circles.
by Houdini Aug 10, 2008 12:26 PM
It is not true that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" (Carl Sagan). Proof is proof. Philip Klass was not a skeptic, he was a debunker with an agenda and was wrong as often as right. Skeptics are just the flip side of believers.
by Gary Aug 8, 2008 8:27 PM
The person who "argued" on TV was Terry Smiljanich, during what was actually a very amiable panel discussion. Re: Virginia Levy's malicious attack, the true version of events can be found at www.tampabayskeptics.org/Virginia_chall_result.html.
by Brent Aug 8, 2008 8:13 PM
The so-called "laws of attraction" only attract one thing: gullible suckers. The excuse of "negative vibes" blamed for Levy's failure is classic obfuscation, illogical thinking from an irrational mind. I feel almost sorry for these dupes. Almost.
by Brent Aug 7, 2008 9:05 PM
Sceptics should note that Klass never completely dismissed the fact the Unknown phenomena exists in our skies and 'true' ufo events occur. He put forward his plasma hypothesis. This was later dismissed by scientists involved in Condon committee....
by Jim Aug 7, 2008 4:09 PM
Everyone should have a skeptical viewpoint. People are at a serious disadvantage in all areas of life without an ability to logicaly assess a claim using the scientific method and other tools of reason. Yea Gary!
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