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Traffic laws set for legislative tuneup

By Mike Brassfield and Steve Bousquet, Times Staff Writer
In print: Monday, March 17, 2008


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TALLAHASSEE — State lawmakers are once again pushing to make Florida's traffic laws stricter, including forbidding drivers from talking on cell phones, letting police pull over motorists who aren't buckled up, and legalizing cameras that catch red light runners.

But imposing new driving restrictions is a tall order in the Legislature, which follows a live-and-let-live philosophy when it comes to the rules of the road.

This time, however, key legislators are leaning toward at least one major change: banning cell phones for drivers under 18 and outlawing text messaging for all motorists. This is a growing trend among states.

The fate of all these bills rests largely on the wishes of state Sen. Carey Baker, a conservative gun store owner from Central Florida. An Iraq war veteran who has statewide political aspirations, Baker chairs the Senate's Transportation Committee and has wide latitude to decide which transportation bills get heard and which get ignored, effectively killing them.

Baker, R-Eustis, favors some cell phone restrictions and has softened his opposition to red-light cameras. Despite intense criticism, he's set against stricter seat belt enforcement.

Cell phones

Teen drivers feel unfairly singled out when government officials talk about taking their cell phones away. But those who favor such a law point to studies showing the youngest drivers have the highest crash rates.

"They're inexperienced drivers. They need to be concentrating on actually driving," Baker said, adding that text messaging should be banned for all motorists. "If your hands are off the wheel and your eyes are off the road, you're a danger to others."

Other states also are taking this stance. Six states forbid all talking on handheld cell phones while driving, while another 17 target only younger drivers. Only two states specifically outlaw text messaging while driving, but 21 more are considering it this year.

"A lot of the legislation being considered is focusing on younger drivers," said Matt Sundeen, a transportation analyst with the National Conference of State Legislatures. "And although a texting ban covers all drivers, clearly, anybody who's had a teenager in their house knows that's targeted toward younger drivers as well."

Many lawmakers sound ready for a teen cell phone ban.

"Years ago, if an idea like that was brought up, it was squelched almost immediately," said Sen. Mike Fasano, R-New Port Richey. "Times have changed now."

Seat belts

Florida drivers can't be cited for a seat belt violation unless they get pulled over for another infraction. Bills in the House and Senate would change that. Safety advocates say seat belt usage is declining, and the fear of being ticketed would reverse that.

"Bottom line, it'll save about 200 lives a year, and about 2,700 serious injuries," said Rep. Rich Glorioso, R-Plant City, sponsor of the House bill.

Florida would join 26 other states with similar laws. West-central Florida lawmakers such as Sens. Dennis Jones, R-Seminole, Charlie Justice, D-St. Petersburg, Ronda Storms, R-Brandon, and Rep. Bill Heller, D-St. Petersburg, support the idea.

But it appears unlikely to survive because Baker is against it.

Sen. Nan Rich, D-Weston, sponsor of the Senate bill, said it's wrong and insensitive for Baker to single-handedly block a bill with support from doctors, public safety groups and crash victims' families. Baker, who's running for state agriculture commissioner in a crowded field in 2010, said, "I just have a philosophical disagreement with allowing law enforcement officers to stop someone who is doing nothing otherwise wrong."

Red light cameras

Will lawmakers clear the way for more red light cameras in Florida? Two Bradenton Republicans have filed bills to do that.

Cities in two dozen states use cameras to ticket drivers who run red lights. But Florida bans the devices from its rights-of-way on state roads, which include many major thoroughfares. A few places, including Hillsborough County, are sticking the cameras on private property near intersections, but other cities are waiting for a change in the law.

Last week, Baker's committee took the Senate bill and reduced the fines that cities had hoped to collect — from $125 to $60 for the first three violations. That has some cities questioning whether they could afford the cameras.

Gov. Charlie Crist wants rules for the cameras to be consistent: "I think that some uniformity might be a little bit easier on citizens throughout the state. I mean, they travel around the state a lot."

In Tallahassee, sparring over driving laws is an annual tug of war pitting public safety against government intrusion. Some lawmakers also want to make it illegal to drive slowly in the passing lane; prohibit kids from riding in pickup beds; and limit the number of passengers in teens' cars.

Most of those bills are likely to die, but they'll be back next year.

Mike Brassfield can be reached at brassfield@sptimes.com.


fast facts

Tracking the bills

You can read the bills and track their progress online at www.flhouse.gov and www.flsenate.gov. Each site has a window where visitors can type in the bill number.

Cell phones and text messaging: House Bills 175, 193 and 357; Senate Bills 266, 504, 1266 and 1314

Seat belts: HB 11, SB 94

Red light cameras: HB 351, SB 816


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Comments on this article
by Bill Mar 18, 2008 11:50 AM
How about the 55 mph speed limit? Slow down the consumption of fuel and the reckless indifference to motorist safety.
by RE Mar 17, 2008 3:26 PM
When they make motorcyclists start wearing helmets again, THEN I'll buckle up. If it can be optional for a motorcycle rider to wear a helmet or not, why should I, in a much safer vehicle have to use a seat belt? UNFAIR!!
by chuck Mar 17, 2008 3:25 PM
what about drivers doing 60 in the passing lane
by KB Mar 17, 2008 3:15 PM
I also applaud Sen Baker, although I believe he needs to rethink the red light cameras. The cameras are not foolproof, and innocent people get tickets because of mistaken identity (same plate number, wrong state).
by captn obvious Mar 17, 2008 3:09 PM
anything but the real issues. notice its the same do nothing crew, thank you storms and fasano, lets make a law making it illegal to waste taxpayer $$ on BS legislation
by Jerry Mar 17, 2008 3:08 PM
Hand held cell phone use while driving needs to be stopped.I am not a statistic because I am paying attention while driving.I can't tell you the number of times I've avoided cell phone accidents!
by katie Mar 17, 2008 3:08 PM
Sen Baker- open your eyes!!! Dince when do the feelings of teens override the safety of others. These teens are burying their friends on a regular basis. They need to have structure and understand that driving is a privelidge, not a right.
by Kevin Mar 17, 2008 3:05 PM
Ignorant morons....with the exception of ticketing left lane drivers going below the speed limit, these laws do absolutely nothing to improve public safety. They are just excuses to get counties more revenue after Amnd 1.
by Tom D Mar 17, 2008 3:04 PM
Now all we have to do is get some Sheriffs that will enforce the law as it should be. We can write anything that is good for the public, but if they are not enforced , it matters not. Why the St Pete Times now says submit rant ??? It is insulting.!
by JD Mar 17, 2008 2:38 PM
I applaud Sen. Baker for his efforts to reign in the traffic Gestapo. However I would rather eliminate mandatory seat belt usage altogether.
by James Mar 17, 2008 2:38 PM
You're missing the point about red light cameras. Its not about reducing acidents its about collecting fines (i.e. revnue)
by Jaime Mar 17, 2008 2:37 PM
Ban cell phones period. It is incredible that drivers seem to be unable to drive witout a phone on thier ear. It is as much a hazzard as drinking and driving.
by jerry Mar 17, 2008 2:37 PM
lets have a setbelt law for motercycles. Once again it's the insurance companys pushing.pushing......pushing If they cared about 200 people a year why not ban smoking, sky diving, cave diving.......what a joke
by frankie Mar 17, 2008 2:36 PM
How about Signaling. You would think that turnsignals were an option on cars that no one ordered. Unsafe lane changes with lack of signaling are common.
by GrimReaper Mar 17, 2008 2:36 PM
I have been a licensed HAM radio opperator for 45 years and NEVER had a problem using a radio in my car. The problem is already solved we have a distracted driver law INFORCE IT . As for seat belts KERCHING ! its money for the state stupid.
by Stephen Mar 17, 2008 2:35 PM
Considering that the RLC cause more wrecks on independent studies like the USF one last week. They need to really drop that one. The only purpose of RLC is revenue. The safety is nothing more than fantasy.
by David Mar 17, 2008 2:35 PM
Why ban cell phones only for teens? Ban them in cars for all. Quote said "They're inexperienced drivers. They need to be concentrating on actually driving," Sorry but I believe everyone should actually be concentration on driving.
by Pete Mar 17, 2008 2:34 PM
Yes, yes, and yes! I agree with them all.
by Betty Mar 17, 2008 2:34 PM
They need to FIX THE PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX PROBLEMS and FIX PROPERTY INSURANCE. Every thing else is simply to distract us. These bums need to do their work or we need to kick their sorry tails out!!!!!!!!!
by JV Mar 17, 2008 2:17 PM
I hope Senator Baker doesn't kill these laws, especially the traffic light law. Obviously the police cannot be everywhere, and light running is rampant nationwide. To limit the fines is absolutely ludicrous. But it is a means to the end he wa
by Paul Mar 17, 2008 1:54 PM
Any law which makes it harder to drive badly should be passed. Libertarian approaches don't work on public roads. Please get that bill for driving slowly in the left lane passed. It was vetoed by useless Jeb Bush a couple of years ago.
by Richard De Berry Mar 17, 2008 1:48 PM
I'm willing to bet Sen Baker won't be so "live-and-let-live" if one of his family members is killed by some moron talking on his/her cell phone.
by JM Mar 17, 2008 1:48 PM
These laws need to pass along with one for the noise from boom boxes.You can't drive down US19 without some young driver cutting in and out while talking on the phone and the music so loud nobody can stand it.
by amy Mar 17, 2008 1:47 PM
I will bet if Baker's kid was involved or killed, he would change his mind real fast. Too bad he can't see the forest thru the trees
by Robert Bell Mar 17, 2008 1:44 PM
You can't talk on your cell phone about, business and drive safe You can't talk on your cellphone about boyfriends & girl-friends and drive safe. You can.t talk on your cell phone and drive safe period. Saving lives is not up
by crash Mar 17, 2008 12:10 PM
wasn't there just a study showing that red light cameras cause more crashes than they prevent, because of people who slam on their brakes at yellow lights and get rear-ended?
by RS Mar 17, 2008 10:32 AM
I agree with Sen.Baker. Thank God for people in the senate like him. His is a job well done!
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