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Tuesday's three bids to redevelop the Tropicana Field site from companies with national development credentials are an encouraging signal of interest in St. Petersburg's thriving downtown. But the next step toward a new waterfront baseball stadium will take exacting analysis, sober reflection and some more money on the table. That point is no better illustrated than by the fact that two of the bidders didn't even offer a purchase price for the existing Trop site.
The promise of the Tampa Bay Rays' vision is that it would create iconic bookends downtown: an open-air $450-million waterfront stadium at the eastern edge and a retail, office and residential anchor on the existing 86-acre Trop site to the west — with no extra burden on taxpayers. Whether that is realistic depends as much on the details and characteristics of the Trop redevelopment as it does on the amount of money it could produce for a new baseball stadium.
All three bidders offer various forms of urban-scale development, with office buildings, shops, hotels and apartments. And all three offer at least a nod to sentiments voiced in recent public hearings, in which residents called for architecture and green space that blend with the community surroundings. But the scales are demonstrably different, ranging from 3.1-million square feet on the low end to 5.4-million square feet on the high end. The city will want to assure not only that the design and scale are appropriate but that the future business and retail occupants would create the necessary draw for the development.
The bid documents do little to brighten the financial picture. Rays officials, who had worked previously with Houston-based Hines Interest, said they were unsurprised by Hines' formal $50-million offer to purchase the land. The other two bidders were less definitive. Washington developer Archstone-Madison is asking for a formula-driven long-term lease with a base rent of $1-million. Williams Quarter, a group that includes Tampa's DeBartolo Holdings, writes only that it "looks forward to the opportunity to negotiate."
Given that the Rays have committed to pay only a third of the new stadium's $450-million cost, these preliminary land purchase numbers suggest a sizeable gap. The team is also counting on the new property taxes that would result from the development at the Tropicana site, which now pays no property taxes. But financial projections the Rays made last year estimated that potential tax increment at $108-million. Add that to the Hines bid and the team contribution, and the gap appears to be more than $140-million. To be kind, there seems to be ample room for negotiation.
The bid opening Tuesday is just another step in the Rays' uphill journey toward a new ballpark. The next step is for city administrators and the City Council to begin reviewing the documents, scrutinizing the numbers and assessing the scale and fit of the development downtown. The Rays, meanwhile, may have to redouble their efforts to craft a financial plan that is feasible and consistent with their pledge not to seek new taxes.
That three developers are showing interest is encouraging. But the city and the Rays have their work cut out for them if the team's vision is to advance beyond artist renderings.
[Last modified: Mar 25, 2008 01:28 PM]
Comments on this article
by Joe
Mar 25, 2008 1:28 PM
Funding comes from the sale of the Trop sight and the incremental raise in property tax dollars. That money MUST be spent in THAT tax increment district on CAPITAL projects. W/o the sale there is no supposed money grab and no tax increment.
by JIM
Mar 20, 2008 1:50 PM
get rid of the rays now while there's some market value rather than after the season and no value (redundant. let USF build a major campus there; then dvelop the waterfront property USF had downtown. NO MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR PRIV
by Buzzard
Mar 20, 2008 12:44 PM
Boondoggle? Just a minute now! Are you folks implying these developers have an unfair "in" with the city council? Holy moly! Let me contact the Times news desk! They'll want to know if something nefarious is afoot! Gadzooks. Special
by rip
Mar 20, 2008 9:54 AM
How much of OUR money has been spent on this stadium proposal to date? It will never pass in a fair election. PULL THE PLUG NOW
by Roger
Mar 20, 2008 9:38 AM
And just how soon will we hear that the proposed new taxpayer funded stadium is imperative or Stu will be "forced" to move his crappy team? Let's see some commitment to a winning team before gouging the taxpayers.
by Glenn
Mar 19, 2008 5:21 PM
Geez...you'd think all these people have a "locked in" deal here. Nothing has been approved and they are planning the future already.
by tim
Mar 19, 2008 4:46 PM
What part of "NO" does the Times not understand? The "Trop" works fine, citizens are already up in arms over their taxes, the economy is in a slump, yet The Times insists that spending $450+ million for a baseball field is go
by Billy Boy
Mar 19, 2008 4:42 PM
My god this is probably the biggest blatant boondoggle I've ever seen.
Come on St Pete, let's vote this silliness into oblivion!
by Ken
Mar 19, 2008 3:37 PM
This whole thing is a bad deal. 1- steal yet more waterfront open to the public; 2- How do all these great promises compare to the old "stadium for the 21st century; 3- and gouge the taxpayers to do all this to them.
by jim
Mar 19, 2008 3:17 PM
Reality has a way of interfering with Artist's Conceptions. There is nothing wrong with the Trop that twenty more wins wouldn't cure.
by Harold
Mar 19, 2008 3:17 PM
The Rays need to pay their own mortgage. Hmm, perhaps that is what harding working families do to be responsible. We have families with no health insurance, prisons overfilled, community programs pleading for money. City's priorities are confus
by smilin bob
Mar 19, 2008 3:14 PM
The city and Rays ownership need to get citizen support first. Everyone including the SP Times have forgotten that. I see the submit rant radio button is back.
by Smilin bob
Mar 19, 2008 3:14 PM
Where's the submit rant radio button? An elitist subtlety by the SP Times. Taxpayers don't need the added burden of a 1 billion dollar taxpayer/ city committment for private enterprise. The Trop dome is state of the art, and is comfortab
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