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A Times Editorial

Rays should heed mayor


In print: Sunday, April 27, 2008


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The kind of changes St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker has recommended for the Tampa Bay Rays' proposed $450-million stadium should help it better fit the waterfront surroundings. They also should make it more palatable for voters, which is why the Rays need to pay close attention.

A possible referendum is now only six months away, and the Rays have yet to show how they are adapting their plans to the heavy public input they have solicited and received. The people who oppose any construction on the downtown waterfront are not likely to be persuaded, but Baker has touched on some themes that could help the Rays' plan appeal to a broader audience.

1) Lack of parking. Though a new 3,500-car garage may not be entirely necessary, the Rays do need to bring more clarity to their parking plans. Some of the nearby lots identified as possible game parking have not even been approved by the business owners.

2) Encroachment on the arts. The mayor wants to draw a dividing line between a stadium to the north and the arts complex to the south. That should help allay some concerns of the community's arts patrons. The team can find other space for offices.

3) Filling in the bay. The Rays would reduce the width of Bayshore Drive and still fill about 0.6 acres of the boat basin. The mayor wants to keep the road wide enough for annual races and suggests a partial bridge over the bay.

The two biggest issues remain unresolved. The first is financing, and the Rays are not helping themselves when they allow city and county elected officials to learn secondhand about what appears to be their new alternative. If the plan now includes the continued use of tourist and local sales taxes, as opposed to property taxes, they should say so. If those numbers add up, the Rays are likely to find greater, not less, political support.

The second issue is the Trop site redevelopment. The three would-be developers are still pitching their plans, and the council needs to be assured that any plan is consistent with downtown growth and that the developer has the financial wherewithal and connections to make it happen.

In the meantime, the Rays' political instincts are looking increasingly clumsy. The vocal support of hometown Gov. Charlie Crist is nice, but they won't even make it to the ballot if they don't win over the mayor. Given the tenor of Baker's report and public comments, they have their work cut out for them.



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Comments on this article
by bill May 2, 2008 9:49 PM
The traffic on game days will be killer, trust me. And what will happen to that big sail when the big winds come? Put the new stadium over by Derby Lane if there has to be a new stadium at all. Citizens STAND FIRM or you will be paying for 2 at once.
by Amy May 2, 2008 9:48 PM
Cutting the school budget again, and you are concerned about a stadium. Shame on you Mayor Baker. You need to do with Mr. Wilcox.
by Larry May 2, 2008 2:26 PM
I believe the powers-that-be should take the issue out of our stingy taxpaying hands. Do it like Tampa. Have a "Sports Authority" that is authorized to levi taxes. This way, sports arena can be built all over Pi County in place of
by Chris May 1, 2008 11:02 AM
The stadium is a great idea. As for the people worried about the heat, there will be misters to keep the fans cool throughout the stands, and near concessions. Most of the stadium will be in the shade. Parking is an issue, but will be resolved.
by Chris May 1, 2008 11:02 AM
To the "Sawx" fan who says that a new stadium will only sellout when the Sox and Yankees play here, you only need to look at what heppened with the Bucs when they started winning. Bucs fans sold out the stadium, and other teams fans disappe
by charles May 1, 2008 11:01 AM
Nobody sits outside(very long) in Florida during the summertime. Duh!!
by Raphael May 1, 2008 9:26 AM
It would be nice to incorporate boat slips into the plan. It would complete the picture.
by Dave Apr 30, 2008 4:11 PM
I wont go to a new stadium and sit in the heat and thunderstorms
by Troy Apr 30, 2008 3:03 PM
St. Pete is and will always be known for its vibrant waterfront. What better way to facilitate its vibrance than by adding a first-of-its-kind architectural masterpiece to an area of downtown flanked by art establishments! Furthermore
by NUTS Apr 30, 2008 2:21 PM
This idea is so STUPID!!! Leave downtown alone. The stadium is perfect now. Did everyone forget about July and August? There was a reason the Trop has a lid. Rain, Heat and HUMID. Wake Up people!!!
by rayray Apr 30, 2008 12:06 PM
Why don't all naysayers get out-of-town if you don't like it. What's keeping you here, please leave & do us all a favor.Long live Rays in new bayfront stadium & hail to Trop redevelopment.It's going to happen,so
by Wally Apr 30, 2008 11:10 AM
Mitigate the bay impact of the stadium by fixing clam bayou.
by LInda Apr 29, 2008 4:57 PM
Gandy or Orlando. Not downtown.
by Chris Apr 29, 2008 10:19 AM
Why is everyone so opposed to this? What would it really cost you in taxes as an individual a year? Maybe a few dollars? You probably spend more on dinner one night! I say yes to new stadium. And with the way the Rays are playing, this will be great
by Grumpy Apr 28, 2008 10:07 AM
They seemed to do better in Orlando. Maybe they could move there or somewhere in between. That would solve the whole St.Pete stadium problem. There must be some land right on I-4 which would be perfect for this new stadium. So there, problem sol
by mark Apr 28, 2008 10:03 AM
GANDY GANDY GANDY!- next to the dog trackk--= = PARKING!!!= TAMPA FANS!!- =HIGHWAY ACCESS!!!__ HELLO?????
by bill Apr 28, 2008 9:22 AM
It should cost much less to retrofit the Thunderdome (Trop) and do whatever needed to make it anew and spend those tax dollars on things the whole city can and will enjoy. Leave the waterfront quiet and tranquil.
by billy Apr 27, 2008 5:58 PM
why is this downtown stadium being forced on us? this thing was kept under wraps for months. why must the taxpayers subsidize a private business?
by Thursby Apr 27, 2008 11:39 AM
Lack of parking??? Who's going to go to the games? If it's not the Bosox or the Yanks, they average less than 10,000 fans.
by Get Smart Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM
What about the virtual Mega Boom Box (the stadium) disrupting the tranquility of the city plus the sub-sonic booming underwater?
by mike Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM
I say keep playing at the Thunder Dome, put a retractable roof on it, upgrade the seating, charge a dollar for parking to pay for it all, and be done with it . . . !
by Kim Apr 27, 2008 10:25 AM
Lets vote no now and get it done with?
by Rick Apr 27, 2008 10:25 AM
Rays should wise up.St Pete area will never support a major league team. It was sickening to see 90% of sell out crowd last night for the Bosox.Get smart negotiate with the land of Disney and move to a state of the art stadium with all the trimm
by Chris Apr 27, 2008 10:25 AM
Rick Baker lied to me, and you, by keeping this matter secret until 3 days after the last Council elections.
by Frank Apr 27, 2008 10:24 AM
You omitted another group who is learning second hand, the environmental regulators. They have a say, too, and should give their aye or nay before this goes to referendum.
by je taxpayer Apr 27, 2008 10:23 AM
NO to the new stadium, and if the mayor saupports it then that seals its doom! Two losers here!!
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