Detours: a country in search of direction
On the eve of the election, a reporter and photographer set out for Washington, via America. We tell stories from seven towns, touching on seven issues from politics and real life.
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As the center spotlight in the quest to keep baseball in this region shifts from the Tampa Bay Rays to a group of business and civic leaders, the effort will need to be transparent and broad in both representation and vision. Progress Energy Florida president Jeff Lyash, who will lead the effort, already has spoken positively about the need to involve people from both ends of Pinellas County and both sides of Tampa Bay. That's critical in building sustained fan and corporate support for a professional sports franchise that, just like the NFL's Buccaneers, must draw from the entire region.
Those same people can also bring new perspectives to the stadium debate itself. The Rays, by their own admission, did not aggressively explore potential sites outside downtown St. Petersburg. That led to some familiar complaints from county commissioners and North Pinellas fans about access. In turn, Lyash already has signaled his willingness to look beyond St. Petersburg.
The group should review all of the options, but it will find the alternatives are not as easy as some commissioners pretend. A broader search will immediately face the reality that little vacant land remains in Florida's most densely populated county. The few remaining large parcels in mid Pinellas could produce some eye-popping cost estimates. They each would come with their own drawbacks, from the need for infrastructure and road improvements to environmental concerns.
Other considerations have been fairly raised by St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker. Baseball may never have come to this region but for the enormous risks the city undertook. That history should be respected. And the Rays' long-term lease to play in Tropicana Field is with the city. From St. Louis to Pittsburgh, the more recently built baseball stadiums are part of the vibrant downtown fabric and not in suburban locations surrounded by acres of paved parking. A convincing case for building a new stadium on any specific site outside downtown St. Petersburg has yet to be made.
A St. Petersburg Area Chamber of Commerce task force has reminded this region of the enormous stakes and looked favorably upon the Rays' pitch for a downtown waterfront stadium. The task force hired PricewaterhouseCoopers for an independent analysis. That study concluded the team contributes $111.9-million a year to the Pinellas economy and that a new stadium would add another $59-million. Quibble about the precision of such projections, but the scale of the impact is undeniable.
Also not in question is the potential for loss. Chamber president John Long says he has been told by counterparts that other cities are just waiting for Tampa Bay to fail. "We should not kid ourselves," Long says. "There are other communities that would like to have our team. And they would not worry about cost."
Ironically, the Rays' decision to cancel a November stadium referendum has produced a new type of momentum, and Lyash's coalition should build on it in a public process. The group will encounter some of the scars and combatants from a political history stretching several decades, but it should also be able to tap into an emerging political consensus. The Rays belong in Tampa Bay, but they will need broader support and, at some point in the not so distant future, a new stadium to keep them here.
[Last modified: Jul 04, 2008 05:02 PM]
Comments on this article
by BILL
Jul 4, 2008 5:02 PM
The best site for a new baseball stadium would be in the area near Raymond James Stadium where parking space for 650000 now exists
by BILL
Jul 4, 2008 5:01 PM
Pittsburgh's field is located across a river from the downtown area and 1/8 of a mile from the Steeler's stadium. Between the two stadiums are acres of paved parking sufficient to to accommodate a full capacity crowd for a Pirates game.
by bill
Jun 30, 2008 7:12 PM
And why MUST a stadium be on the waterfront? Fans go for the game, not the stadium. Find some old abandon buildings and tear them down and build it there. Don't monopolize the shore for profit and charge the tax payers for the loss.
by Kat
Jun 30, 2008 4:43 PM
And, Price Waterhouse has been hired to give MLB economic impact "numbers" how many times, now?
by gene
Jun 30, 2008 4:43 PM
This is really kinda' simple...you hire a 'consultant', if their report supports your position...you release it. If not, you keep it in your center desk drawer. That is what the Chamber did. Just like the Rays' traffic/parking study.
by Jim
Jun 30, 2008 4:29 PM
The Rays stadium belongs on the waterfront! This was a brilliant idea and one that should be supported to ensure a bright future for St Pete and the Rays. Failure to get a new stadium will be the biggest blunder in St Pete's history.
by Clearwaterite in D
Jun 30, 2008 1:12 PM
Let the team go. They cant survive in their current situation. The Trop is a mausoleum. If you hypocrites cant see th importance of stadium aesthetics to the overall experience, then you dont deserve a team. Glad I found my way out after 32 yrs
by amy
Jun 30, 2008 1:07 PM
they're pretty foolish to pitch this sell at this time of year. feel the heat? now sit there for 3 hours. outside field. ha ha ha ha ha ha.
by bill
Jun 30, 2008 12:55 PM
But what has been the cost to the citizens of St. Pete? Taxes and utilities and insurance has stressed most almost to the limits and asking for more for a private business is too much. The dome is "in" the city and does not have to sit at waters edge
by Hank
Jun 30, 2008 12:52 PM
The Rays should do the same thing the Giants did to get fans to Kezar. Busses should be run from all the shopping mall parking lots in the seven-county area to bring fans to the park. Seniors don't like to drive at night; they'd use the busses.
by Mike
Jun 30, 2008 11:22 AM
The Trop is a dump
by David
Jun 30, 2008 11:20 AM
"That study concluded the team contributes $111.9-million ... to the ... economy and that a new stadium would add ... $59-million."? Some math! At an average of $50 a patron they are taking a million a night out of the community, not putting it in.
by Eduardo
Jun 29, 2008 1:29 PM
Look, we've done the homework already. We have a great location for baseball in the city - The Trop: Excellent in & out traffic, A/C, no rain outs. The economics cited are hocus pocus. Reilable,non-biased studies draw much different conculusions.
by John
Jun 29, 2008 1:24 PM
It seems kind of peculiar that the Chamber comes up with these economic impact numbers after the Rays delay their plan. What's up with that?
by KG
Jun 29, 2008 1:06 PM
Chamber types are always enthusiastic about projects where the public pays the costs and business reaps the profit. AKA - corporate welfare.
by Frank
Jun 28, 2008 11:08 PM
Is the $111.9 M and #59 M in the Chamber report net or gross contributions?
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