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Letters to the Editor
President Bush should calculate the grim numbers of his war in Iraq
In print: Wednesday, March 26, 2008
U.S. toll in Iraq at 4,000 | March 24, story Calculating the grim numbers of war In 1939, 21 years after the end of World War I, Dalton Trumbo published his horrific antiwar classic Johnny Got His Gun. Later that year, World War II began. In 1970, 25 years after the end of World War II, we are involved in Vietnam and Trumbo rereleased his book. The only change he made was an addition to the introduction titled "Addendum: 1970." He wrote: "Numbers have dehumanized us. Over breakfast coffee we read of 40,000 American dead in Vietnam. Instead of vomiting, we reach for the toast. Our morning rush through crowded streets is not to cry murder but to hit that trough before somebody else gobbles our share. "An equation: 40,000 dead young men = 3,000 tons of bone and flesh, 124,000 pounds of brain matter, 50,000 gallons of blood, 1,840,000 years of life that will never be lived, 100,000 children who will never be born (The last we can afford: there are too many starving children in the world already.)" Thirty-eight years later, it is Iraq, March 24, 2008, and the newspaper says 4,000 American sons and daughters are dead there, with more to come. We tend to overlook the tens of thousands of soldiers wounded and many times that number of Iraqi civilians killed as Bush routs the "terrorist danger." Bush flaunts, Congress cowers, justice sits and our "free" press feeds us pabulum. Decider-man, you work Trumbo's math and tell my neighbors and me, again, with a straight face, "the battle in Iraq is noble, it is necessary, and it is just" to stop the "violence and terror that could spread beyond Iraq's borders, with serious consequences for the world's economy." Dave Plyer, Clearwater Bush: Sacrifice worth it | March 25, story The American way? Referring to the 4,000 American military men and women killed in Iraq in the past five years, President Bush said that a victory there "will merit the sacrifice." That number doesn't include the countless thousands maimed or otherwise disabled in combat. Unless I'm mistaken, our troops and those casualties and their families are the only Americans making any sacrifices in this war. Is that really the American way? It has been five years and still counting, yet there is no end in sight and little indication when the Iraqis will — if ever — be able to take over their own country. I'm proud of our troops and our country, but ashamed to have Bush as president. Blll Donofrio, Spring Hill U.S. toll in Iraq at 4,000 | March 24, story A day of sorrow How sad, ironic and symbolic that this benchmark was reached on Easter Sunday, the day the Christians celebrate Jesus' sacrifice for the sins of others. There are 4,000 brave men and women dead because of a few lies and for a few pockets full of gold. Sadly, history does repeat itself. Jim Santamour, St. Petersburg U.S. toll in Iraq at 4,000 | March 24, story Uncounted dead In your article in Monday's paper you say that 4,000 Americans have been killed in Iraq. What you really mean is that 4,000 American military personnel have been killed. What about the American contractors and journalists? Last time I looked more than 900 of them had been killed as well, making the true death toll more like 5,000. Reed A. Blizzard, Largo A war gone wrong At the passing of the fifth anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq, it's time that even the president's strongest supporters step back and take a good, hard look at the scope of this disaster. The pretext for this war was weapons of mass destruction. Going in, the administration estimated the potential cost at $50-billion to $60-billion. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld predicted that it could last, "Six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." Now, more than five years later and with no WMD found, we've spent $600-billion and counting, 4,000 soldiers have died and approximately 60,000 have been wounded. Almost all of this happened after President Bush proudly paraded around the deck of an aircraft carrier in a flight suit and declared the end of major combat operations, and then later challenged the insurgency to "Bring 'em on." If you're still a staunch supporter of the president and his actions in Iraq, I ask you this: How would you have reacted to all of this if Bill Clinton had been behind it? Be honest now. Todd Hemphill, Trinity When will it end? When President Bush cavalierly mentions the Iraq war "will merit the sacrifice" and when the killing of 4,000 people is referred to as a "grim milestone," it seems more than our soldiers should bear. When brain-damaged veterans have to also bear their wounds without any productive help, and when their families must be their only surrogate, what does this mean? And when we get a tax credit, while flying our flags and affixing a ribbon to our bumpers, what kind of patriotic Americans are we? Columnist Mark Shields wants a draft for all. Perhaps when we comfortable "patriots" are forced to be a part of Bush's war, and we, and the children of our members of Congress are fighting and dying in Iraq, we will get mad enough to stop this. What is it going to take for all of us to say, "Let's stop this madness … let's stop this pain." Lilyan Dayton, New Port Richey A warrior's role Adm. William Fallon, the commander of the Tampa-based U.S. Central Command, should have been fired and the president would have been completely justified in firing him instead of allowing the admiral to depart on his terms. I for one am getting tired of seeing generals and admirals become diplomats instead of warriors. If they want to be diplomats they should have joined the State Department. The Esquire article that led to Fallon's resignation describes a commander who did not perform the will of the commander in chief. The commander of Central Command's job is to execute the policy established by the commander in chief. That's the way it is supposed to be. Instead, the article describes Fallon as the one standing between the president and war — "The Good Cop." The president isn't well served by a military commander acting as a good cop in this dangerous world of nutcase dictators. The military commander should be the vicious pit bull, tugging on his chain, baring his teeth that the president — during the conduct of his foreign policy — can point to and say don't make me let the war dog loose because if I do he will kill you! Let's get rid of the admirals and generals who want to be diplomats and put warriors in charge of combatant commands. Kent Ralston, lieutenant colonel, U.S. Marine Corps (retired), Tampa
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by Stephanie
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Mar 27, 2008 7:29 PM
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Actually, it is the "peace lovers" who call the most name and are the most angry
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by Pat
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Mar 27, 2008 7:28 PM
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Is Just A Mom too ashamed to put her name with her "comments"
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by Lou
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Mar 27, 2008 6:49 PM
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just a mom: get just an education
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by just a mom
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Mar 27, 2008 6:11 PM
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Deana-it's spelled asinine,look it up. being angry about being lied to and kids dying because of lies is not my identity, it is my opinion. please allow me to express it without hurling insults which reveal far more about you than they do
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by Sawyer
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Mar 27, 2008 5:07 PM
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Pearl: I am glad to hear it, that made my day! :)
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by Dr. Phyll
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Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM
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What will people like Lisa do when the wars ends, probably fall apart, this is their whole identity. Pathetic
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by Tabitha
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Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM
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I know for afact if this had been Clinton's war, if he had even been paying attention to anything but chicks, nobody would be saying anything. All this is just partisan whining, I wonder if anybody actually cares about the war at all
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by Del
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Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM
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Wolf: Somehow I know you did not care about any of the military operations Clinton got us into, doubt you even checked out his reasons. It is transparent
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by Selena
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Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM
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Lisa: I actually did not have a typo, the editor did, it did not occur on my end as it obviously did on yours. Try to debate the issues if you can
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by Pat
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Mar 27, 2008 4:40 PM
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Kitty: I would try to enlighten you but you are so angry and get your identity from protesting, so it would leave you with nothing.
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by Pearl
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Mar 27, 2008 2:42 PM
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That statement is correct. It's in the Militart Code of Justice. Any protest in uniform is illegal. You can look it up for yourself. There is no "free speech" in the military.
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by WOlf
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Mar 27, 2008 2:15 PM
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Every reason Bush gave us turned out to be a lie, except Saddam killing the Kurds- too bad 41 & Rumsfield supplied him with the chemicals to do that in the 80's. What did they think he was going to do with them? It's all a lie, it
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by buzzard
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Mar 27, 2008 2:12 PM
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There are about 59 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Annual income under $1K. Cost of war estimated at $1 Trillion. Give every man woman and child there $17K to stop fighting.
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by been there done that
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Mar 27, 2008 2:07 PM
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i'm waiting for all of you self rightious to enlist. watch winter soldier then talk to me. there is not one thing intelligent about this war. i will never be able to forgive myself for my crimes, please go do a tour chickens
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by Lisa
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Mar 27, 2008 2:07 PM
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Selene- I'm "elusional"? DO you do stand up too? I state facts. YOu misspell insults. Read a book. Better yet- go to Iraq and see the hell our kids suffer in your name.
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by kitty
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Mar 27, 2008 2:01 PM
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Pat, please enlighten all of us us "irrational objectors" - why is the war in iraq necessary?
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by Jim
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Mar 27, 2008 1:52 PM
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With due respect to the letter writer, "A warrior's role," March 25, I heartily disagree with the retired Marine Lt. Col. advocating the role of of military cammander as "vicious pit bull, tugging on his chain, baring his teeth th
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by Selene
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Mar 27, 2008 9:24 AM
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Lisa" You are elusional and make my point for me about the nutty anti-war crowd.
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by Dane
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Mar 27, 2008 9:12 AM
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Libs have zero understanding of world affairs and geopolitics, Jack's spelling ability hints at his lack of education.
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by Deana
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Mar 27, 2008 8:51 AM
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Jack: It is spelled assinine, don't use words too big for you.
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by Raini
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Mar 27, 2008 8:51 AM
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Do they really get court marshaled? Cool
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by Pat
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Mar 27, 2008 8:50 AM
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The War is a sad neccesity, even if you don't agree with it, the "objectors" here aren't even rational, they just hate Bush.
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by Pat
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Mar 27, 2008 8:50 AM
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How stupid these comments are, it is striking how dummed down this area is, they said the same same kind of dribble during WWI and II.
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by Lisa
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Mar 26, 2008 4:32 PM
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Anyone still in uniform who speaks against Bush's war can be court marshaled, jailed, dis-honerably discharged. That's why so many don't speak out till after they retire. You can't believe all the kids still over there, they
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by jack
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Mar 26, 2008 1:39 PM
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I'm not surprised by this retired, jar-head bottle cap colonel's asinine attitude. He feels that Fallon should be fired for his mildly critical comments; but that it is fine for Petraeus to repeatedly kiss Bush's butt, while
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by KG
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Mar 26, 2008 1:35 PM
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bush cares not one whit about the fate of soldiers.
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by Paul
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Mar 26, 2008 1:25 PM
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For someone who claims to be a retired officer, you sure don't know very much about Generals. Eisenhower wasn't chosen because he was a brilliant tactician, he was chosen because he was an organizer and diplomatic. Read some history Colone
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by Dave
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Mar 26, 2008 1:18 PM
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Put the numbers in perspective. Look how many die in car accidents each ear. Or from cancer, or some other involuntary means of death It's more than we have lost in Iraq. For a war, 4000 is nothing. Quit falling for the media hype.
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by tom
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Mar 26, 2008 11:55 AM
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If bill cliton had been in charge there would be no war. He's too much of a coward. He's way too busy with his interns.
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by kitty
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Mar 26, 2008 11:52 AM
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Kent Ralston, far too many Generals and Admirals have been berated for waiting to retire before speaking, with bush supporters wondering why they didn't have the guts to speak up while still on active duty. ADM Fallon is a man of honor like it o
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by bill
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Mar 26, 2008 9:32 AM
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Only the dead have seen the end of war
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by Tom
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Mar 26, 2008 9:30 AM
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Sadly, Colonel Ralston, the phrase "nutcase dictator" seems to more closely describe George Bush as each day passes. In his White House he is cut off from reality, thinking that Iraqis are throwing flowers and that gas is only $1.50 a gallo
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by David
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Mar 26, 2008 9:28 AM
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This Bush/McCain war will only end when we vote them out of office in November. It's up to each of us to stand up for a new direction in our policy!
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by Jim
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Mar 26, 2008 9:07 AM
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George Bush and his minions don't care about the numbers in this war on error. He has lived a privileged life and has never really had to be bothered by lesser things like mortality.His alcohol and cocaine lifestyle reinforced his denial to this
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by Jim
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Mar 26, 2008 9:05 AM
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George Bush and his minions don't care about the numbers in this war on error. He has lived a privileged life and has never really had to be bothered by lesser things like mortality.His alcohol and cocaine lifestyle reinforced his denial to this
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