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Rays' stadium plan delay could help in long run

By Gary Shelton, Times Sports Columnist
In print: Thursday, June 26, 2008


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It was the best day you could ever expect. It was the day the Rays took a step toward a new ballpark.

Either that, or it was the worst day you might ever fear. It was the day the Rays took their first steps toward leaving town.

It was as simple as that, really. When you go beneath all of the rhetoric, beyond all of the unanswered questions and behind the strategic withdrawal by a team from a vote it could not win, there is only one thing to decide.

Did the Rays get closer to their new stadium Wednesday?

Or, perhaps, did they get further away?

Oh, all of the right people had all of the right grins at an afternoon news conference in which the Rays backed away from their efforts to get a vote for a new stadium on the fall ballot. After months of watching their trial balloon get whacked repeatedly by a legion of voters with red anti-stadium signs in their yards, the Rays really had no choice (and, to be honest, no chance).

For all of the talk about community and coalitions, however, a new stadium remains at the heart of this. Somewhere. Sometime. Some place. And at some re-determined price.

Anyone who thinks differently is fooling himself. And anyone connected to this coalition who does not see that as the goal is wasting everyone's time.

All of which, it seems, brings us to a brand new set of questions.

And, at this point, a complete absence of answers.

Where should a new stadium be built? Should it be voted upon or decided by elected officials? What's the timetable? What's the cost? What happens to the development plans for Tropicana Field? How much of the bill will the Rays pay if the site offers lower revenue streams? Should there be a retractable roof? And if so, who pays the extra freight for that?

Those asking such questions on Wednesday might as well have been carrying plutonium. No one had any answers. At the start of this journey, let history note, there was "vague.''

Still, I find myself feeling optimistic about this. Despite all of the questions, despite the fact that getting a stadium built is always difficult, I think this was the move that will get a new park built. After all, there were too many smart people in the room for no one to be aware of the stakes. There were too many people who are active in the community for them to become passive now.

There are those who will tell you that, no matter where the stadium was or how much the owner was willing to pay, it was going to take the leadership of the community to get it built. If that's true, it's a shame this sort of coalition wasn't built from the start.

So go ahead, start to argue about Derby Lane and Al Lang, about Toytown and about Tampa. At this point, it is enough to leave San Antonio and Las Vegas out of the debate. After all, most of us would agree that, at the right price and at the right place, it is better to have baseball than not.

As for Rays owner Stuart Sternberg, Wednesday was a good day. For months, he has been ripped as an out-of-town land-grabber trying to push across an idea that residents seemed to hate. Other owners might have dug in their heels and pushed forward, and other owners might have made threats. Sternberg merely handed off the responsibility for getting a park built.

By doing so, Sternberg seemed to be aware of the community's feelings. He looked patient, because if we know nothing else, this certainly won't speed up the timetable. He looked cooperative. Also, he stopped spending gobs of money on a losing campaign.

Oh, perhaps the skeptical part of you worries about the days ahead. Remember when the Bucs were up for sale, and every interested buyer kept talking about a new stadium? As soon as the Glazer family purchased it, and as soon as they praised Tampa in their opening news conference, a politician said aloud: "Gee. Maybe we don't have to build a stadium, after all.'' And the feet-dragging began. (If you remember, Raymond James Stadium was built by only a narrow vote, which kept the team in town.)

In the case of the Rays, you would hate for the coalition to plod along. The headlines about the stadium are about to stop. The red signs (those that have not been amended to stop any stadium anywhere) are about to go in the garage. The worst thing that could happen would be if the same community leaders who talked so glowingly about baseball on Wednesday suddenly decided they have all the time in the world.

Let's face it. There has never been an owner who wanted a new stadium and then, when he found out he couldn't get one, simply shrugged and stayed put. From the moment Sternberg said his team desired a new home, the choice was clear.

Eventually, this will be about a building a ballpark, or it will be about losing a ball club.

Me? I say they get it built. Near Toytown. By opening day, 2013. With a retractable roof.

And, as happened with Miami's new stadium, without a vote.



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Comments on this article
by Edna Jul 1, 2008 3:51 PM
P.S. I was 4 the waterfront vision but, since that's dead, the Trop location is IDEAL, w/easy on & off interstate access, many points of ingress & eggress, & centrally located for fans from the south (Manatee, Sarasota) & north (Tampa, Pasco).
by Edna Jul 1, 2008 3:32 PM
I LOVE my Rays & never want them 2 leave home (St. Pete). I'm sorry they ran up against a wall re the old Al Lang site. But since that seems dead in the water (no pun intended), what about a new stadium @ Trop site w/residential & retail as well?
by Alan Jun 27, 2008 6:48 PM
Toytown. Doggone it, Toytown already. Do it. Toytown. To Toytown we go. Yes. Yes, doggone it. Toytown.
by Don Jun 27, 2008 6:48 PM
I attend many games at the TROP and while it is a dump...I am NOT in favor of a new stadium. The Rays have not earned that right (yet). The minute ownership holds a gun to taxpayer's head(s)...I say, LET THEM LEAVE.
by Tuck Jun 27, 2008 9:49 AM
The best way to keep the Rays in town is to show up at the Trop and support them. If they start getting 30K people for each game, the team will be profitable and will stay put.
by MLNFL Jun 26, 2008 7:06 PM
I could not agree more Gary. Toytown is the best location and let's do it right and put a retractable roof on it with acres of free parking.
by Tim Jun 26, 2008 6:58 PM
Great article. I gree with Toytown AND a retractable roof!
by Kathleen Jun 26, 2008 6:55 PM
I think all of those supportive business players ought to pony up and pay for their "suitominiums" and "seatominiums" to get the new stadium built. If mlb really means that much to the business commmunity they ought to pay for the new stadium.
by Matt Jun 26, 2008 6:47 PM
It is a shame that uneducated old people are attempting to rocket this area back to the stone age. Hopefully in a couple years they will die off so we can enter the modern era.
by CharlieRay Jun 26, 2008 6:44 PM
The Key words to me is "With a retractable roof". The missing words that NEED to be said are "With Air Conditioning"
by Ken Jun 26, 2008 6:43 PM
Gary you are wrong. The Boston Red Sox new ownership after Yawkey passed away pushed for a new stadium very hard. The cost was exorbitant. Eventually a decision was made to refurbish Fenway. Fenway has 35,000 per game and no one complains now.
by Murf Jun 26, 2008 6:10 PM
Forget the talk about the stadium issue. We've got a Rays team that is tearing it up. Let's all get behind this team and support it now. If they can make it to the playoffs we will have more excitement in the Trop than we ever thought we could.
by Phil Jun 26, 2008 5:19 PM
Ditto, Gary. Toytown for 2013 sounds about right- with a retractable roof. What people have against watching Major League Baseball in the comfort of air conditioning I'll never understand!
by Marc Jun 26, 2008 5:17 PM
Why not across the bay, on the spot Tampa Staduim used to stand? Buy the land from the Bucs. Kansas City has their stadiums side by side and it works great. Who cares if the Yankee complex is across the street? Its a location we know already works.
by Anne Jun 26, 2008 5:17 PM
Thanks Gary.We do need to build the new stadium,&while I will not be able to walk to Toytown,at least it's only a 10 minute drive from downtown St Pete.I hope the sense of urgency does not go away.2013 is fine by me.And so is a retractable roof!
by Dan Jun 26, 2008 5:03 PM
( " there has never been an owner who wanted a new stadium and then, when he found out he couldn't get one,.. stayed put " Factually incorrect. Pats Bob Kraft tried to shake down the Ma. taxpayors. But they stood fast. Kraft spent his own dough.
by Phil M Crevis Jun 26, 2008 4:55 PM
I hope every member of POWW, is happy. Whenour baseball team moves i hope they remember they are at fault!
by Don Jun 26, 2008 4:50 PM
The Rays need to move out of St. Pete. They will never get the support they need playing in a town that doesn't support them today. Move to Tampa, move to Orlando, anywhere but the dump that is St. Pete.
by Ian Jun 26, 2008 4:49 PM
I always start my posts by saying I am a Rays fan and I am. I have been going to 'The Trop' for several years and have suffered through the drought years. Lets get this right, let's build a new stadium and make it the right one. Good job today.
by Holly Jun 26, 2008 4:34 PM
Ed Armstrong and the rest of the "boy bunch," are simply shopping their big boy ideas somewhere else. Not everyone is naive about how the "big boy business" works; they smell MONEY!
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